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Squats the Story MkII- Off topic thread

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  • #9572
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    thats the most extreme end of cycling, those cyclists dont have health/posture as their priorities

    Anna Meares
    Back-Muscles.png


  • #9573
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    TDF is 3500km over 3 weeks

    Anna Meares and similar cyclists would be doing maybe 250km per week, what was Rory doing that made him stop?


  • #9574
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    thats the most extreme end of cycling, those cyclists dont have health/posture as their priorities

    Anna Meares
    Back-Muscles.png

    What's the point of that? She has some muscles on her back. Brilliant.

    That says nothing about;

    - how well her core is functioning in a multi direction manner

    - the way extended periods of time in flexion impact lower back recovery

    - her general hip health, and the effects of that position on glute / hip extension

    Look, you love cycling. That's great.

    One of the best golfers in the world who earns a fortune when he stays healthy doesn't care about that.

    He cares about doing things that allow him to play golf better.

    ...which is what the question was about.

    Besides, I would have thought in the TDF one of the more important things to do would be to get into a position of biomechanical efficiency to improve performance and sustain output across long periods of time.

    If I wanted to strawman this I would have just posted a side shot of a track cyclist.


  • #9575
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,941 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Sitting is bad for your posture, never sit ever again.


  • #9576
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    Hanley wrote: »
    What's the point of that? She has some muscles on her back. Brilliant.

    That says nothing about;

    - how well her core is functioning in a multi direction manner

    - the way extended periods of time in flexion impact lower back recovery

    - her general hip health, and the effects of that position on glute / hip extension

    Look, you love cycling. That's great.

    One of the best golfers in the world who earns a fortune when he stays healthy doesn't care about that.

    He cares about doing things that allow him to play golf better.

    ...which is what the question was about.

    Besides, I would have thought in the TDF one of the more important things to do would be to get into a position of biomechanical efficiency to improve performance and sustain output across long periods of time.

    If I wanted to strawman this I would have just posted a side shot of a track cyclist.


    I simply reduced the argument down to your level by posting a photo of a cyclist

    bio-mechanic efficiency in competitive cycling has to take into account the effects of wind resistance at speeds above 40km/h

    I know what the question is but I disagree with the answers given. the fact that Im involved in cycling doesnt mean Im biased.

    now if your going to use Rory as an argument against cycling as an effective and safe form of cardio I would say that Conor would show that to be false. Rory is standing over a static object , Conor is moving, I think Conor would choose something that didnt hinder his body mechanics. he's also working with a multiple national champion ex pro at the moment


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  • #9577
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    https://www.specializedconceptstore.co.uk/body-geometry-fit/


  • #9578
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    more info http://www.bikefitstudio.ie/


  • #9579
    Blacktie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    JJayoo wrote:
    Sitting is bad for your posture, never sit ever again.


    But I heard standing too long is bad too. Crouch 4 life?


  • #9580
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,810 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Blacktie. wrote: »
    But I heard standing too long is bad too. Crouch 4 life?

    Crouching tiger, hidden danger.

    In all seriousness, the level of Rory's cycling probably would be a non-issue for his back but why take any risk when there are other ways to get what he would have from cycling.

    Which is what was said earlier.


  • #9581
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    There's also the whole thing about McGregor's knee...

    And before anyone says is - no that doesn't mean running is bad for you knees. It means he came back from a VERY serious knee injury and chose not to do anything to aggrivate it.

    Exactly like McIllroy is doing by avoiding cycling.

    Funny how that works eh? And that each person is different and there's usually a good explanation for what they're doing other than " I like to run so they should too".


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  • #9582
    Nervous Wreck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Blacktie. wrote: »
    But I heard standing too long is bad too. Crouch 4 life?

    Hanging upside down like a bat ftw.


  • #9583
    WHIP IT!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,887 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    Nervous Wreck wrote: »
    Hanging upside down like a bat ftw.

    Reminded me of this ad I saw recently... scroll forward to 1:20 to see the old dude give us bit of jig! :pac:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8i7sMwlmAo


  • #9584
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,588 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    wrong.
    a bad bike fit is terrible for posture

    bicycles arent 1 size fits all
    A bad fit bike might be better, but that doesn't mean it's good.
    Even a perfect fit bike will result in constant hip flexion and no extension.
    Obviously at the extreme end, TDF athletes sacrifice heath for performance. But I can't imagine a situation with a recreational rider where is doesn't also apply. (bar recumbent bikes I suppose, which are ironically more efficient).
    Conor McGregor actually does more bike work than running. long sessions arent needed either, bikes are perfect for HIIT
    Actually his cardio is split between running (sprints), rowing and the bike. Intervals on the rower I believe.
    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    Anna Meares
    Back-Muscles.png
    I will concede that if you only want a bike for lifting in the air like that, then it might not affect your hips.
    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    now if your going to use Rory as an argument against cycling as an effective and safe form of cardio I would say that Conor would show that to be false. Rory is standing over a static object , Conor is moving, I think Conor would choose something that didnt hinder his body mechanics. he's also working with a multiple national champion ex pro at the moment

    Nobody used Rory as an argument against cycling. Rory prompted the question. The evidence was based on the physical position. Neither is anybody suggesting that if you ever sit on a bike your hips will suddenly fall off. It's simply that the hyper flexed position is contributes negatively.

    I'm sure that you understand the idea that sitting is bad for us. Well it's the same, but a bit more intense on the bike.

    The fact that Conor uses a bike proves nothing tbh. Nobody said that the negatively aspects can't be countered. They can. You just need to offset the muscle shortening effect. I know for certain that Conor does a hell of a lot of mobility work. It's pretty reasonable to assume that he easily outweighs the negatives.

    94a7d711a13b2435317a3b4653d9b8ef.jpg


  • #9585
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,929 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    An eerie silence in the fitness forum this morning ....


  • #9586
    Tea-a-Maria
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭Tea-a-Maria


    I'll bite. Where did Hanley's thread go?


  • #9587
    juke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭juke


    Tea-a-Maria wrote: »
    I'll bite. Where did Hanley's thread go?

    Deleted, presumably, for advertising, again.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/banlist.php


  • #9588
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,929 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    juke wrote: »
    Deleted, presumably, for advertising, again.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/banlist.php

    Is it temporary or permenant?


  • #9589
    SB_Part2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭SB_Part2


    juke wrote: »
    Deleted, presumably, for advertising, again.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/banlist.php

    Not sure why he even bothered advertising here since according to him he got such terrible cheapskate clients from boards.


  • #9590
    Blacktie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    Lads grow some thicker skin and stop taking things so seriously.


  • #9591
    juke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭juke


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Is it temporary or permenant?

    Permanent, but he can always appeal in the prison forum.


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  • #9592
    IvoryTower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭IvoryTower


    What was the thread about?

    Hope he gets back in


  • #9593
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,929 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    IvoryTower wrote: »
    What was the thread about?

    Hope he gets back in

    Harmless enough. Don't know why it's a permenant ban. This is why boards is losing so many people. Everyone the same reason....mods on a power trip


  • #9594
    Nervous Wreck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Crazy to permaban one of the best contributors to the forum. Particularly when boards is losing members and the Fitness forum has been in decline for a long time.


  • #9595
    COH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,705 ✭✭✭COH


    Its mad ... I have a really large circle of friends that exists as a direct result of the health and fitness forum here going back years. It used to be such a fun place but sadly 99% off them no longer post here (most of them check in from time to time though lol).

    There were of course always a few w*nkers too... but thats life I guess and it kept things interesting in a shared enemy kind of way.

    Used to be that aside.from banter and exchanging ideas here we'd organise nights out, group meet ups and training sessions etc. Ive been to more than one wedding of people I met from here, many have been oit for my birthdays etc. Hell two of my friends who I met through here met each other and got married as a result of one of the free lifting workshops a few years back.

    But it really has changed for the worse - I dont contribute in the open forum much myself anymore (I do mostly by PM if someone genuinely needs help etc) , theres next to zero good discussion anymore and I often think about shutting down my log as well as theres just zero banter or cammaraderie even in that section anymore.

    Anyway I'm not talking about Hanleys ban specifically - Nice work there though *insert slow sarcastic clap* and I'm sure none of you will really care... but what Im trying to say is that this place is a shadow of what it was and should be.

    PS - I rode all yer ma's and I'd like to take this opportunity to apologise to absolutely f*cking nobody


  • #9596
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,810 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    The posters that rushed to denounce Hanley in the thread in question have returned to contributing zero to the forum while one of the better contributors and someone who has helped plenty here with advice is banned.


  • #9597
    Blacktie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    Wow permanent ban. That is beyond ridiculous. I just thought the thread got Deleted.


  • #9598
    juke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭juke


    I'm not a good contributor here - I don't have the knowledge, but I read and learn a lot. This is how I see it:

    Without a doubt, Hanley has been a very valued contributor to the fitness forum. I've met him - he is an excellent coach and a mine of information. He has provided this forum with a wealth of good and free information.

    His silly comments on being called out on advertising last night couldn't have helped him, but, according to the ban list I linked, they don't appear to be the reason for the ban.

    Like it or not, Hanley has used this forum for years as a advertising platform for Revfit. I didn't read his link - but that appears to be why he was banned. Maybe he pushed it too far.

    Maybe I'm wrong, and, as an non-contributor, I guess, who cares.


  • #9599
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,810 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Genuinely, I didn't see it as an ad. Maybe because I skimmed....but the gist was a list of resources.

    You can read if and see advertising but with his level of contribution here, his advertising is done in the every day posts offering advice.

    I've seen shill posts. Certainly don't think it was one of those. [/my 2 cents]


  • #9600
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    A move like this just pushes people onto other social media platforms like facebook.

    Whatever bit of advertising he got from this forum he gave copious amounts back free, you couldn't value it actually.

    But them's the rules I guess.


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  • #9601
    Nervous Wreck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    juke wrote: »
    Like it or not, Hanley has used this forum for years as a advertising platform for Revfit. I didn't read his link - but that appears to be why he was banned. Maybe he pushed it too far.

    Maybe I'm wrong, and, as an non-contributor, I guess, who cares.

    If you're right (and you probably are), then there's been a pattern of acceptance of this from the mod team; of course he's gonna continue to do so and push a little further. To roll back on that so suddenly, employing the harshest of punishments is poor form.


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