Clusters of upsetting dreams

Black Swan · 11-11-2016 6:06pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

I'm having weirdly realistic dreams again, mainly massive arguments with people close to me

This reminds me of a family member that I may have a disagreement with, and upon reflection, needlessly. Perhaps working such things out in dreams is part of the solution?

Gremlinertia wrote: »

took two hours and a lot of caffeine to pull myself together today.

Magic beans java solves many of my problems too, as you well know Grem. It just so happens that I am beginning my Friday holiday off with a morning in my favourite javahouse. :cool:

Gremlinertia wrote: »

I row with one particular family member and we would have had problems in the past but that's all gone but it's quite brutal in the dreams..

Maybe reliving those times?

Hugo Stiglitz · 11-11-2016 6:10pm

Black Swan wrote: »

Dreams seem to wander a bit for us all, so I would think that you could continue here or open a new thread. We are just glad that you have become a welcome member of our Sleeping and Dreaming forum.

Too kind, Miss Swan!

Gremlinertia wrote: »

I'm having weirdly realistic dreams again, mainly massive arguments with people close to me, took two hours and a lot of caffeine to pull myself together today. I row with one particular family member and we would have had problems in the past but that's all gone but it's quite brutal in the dreams..

*hugs* That sounds absolutely rotten.

Gremlinertia · 11-11-2016 6:19pm

It feels more like i'm trying to make myself angry because i'm not that angry anymore so i've changed. Kind of hard to explain

Black Swan · 11-11-2016 6:32pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

It feels more like i'm trying to make myself angry because i'm not that angry anymore so i've changed. Kind of hard to explain

Makes me wonder if your dreams somehow compensate for your wakeful states, working through emotional conflicts to give them balance, or whatever? Dream interpretation is not one of my strong suits.

Fathom · 13-11-2016 7:33pm

Dream interpretation? More art. Not science.

Gremlinertia · 13-11-2016 10:27pm

Black Swan wrote: »

Makes me wonder if your dreams somehow compensate for your wakeful states, working through emotional conflicts to give them balance, or whatever? Dream interpretation is not one of my strong suits.

I believe that while sleeping the 'dust settles' from all the events of the day/past.. Lately the shape of my dreams seems more like they are trying to antagonise me, i'm annoying myself?.

Black Swan · 14-11-2016 2:10am

Gremlinertia wrote: »

I believe that while sleeping the 'dust settles' from all the events of the day/past..

Cannot remember the source, but I recall reading a study awhile back that suggested sleeping on things studied the night before helped later recall and thinking; i.e., a variation of your "dust settles?"

Gremlinertia · 14-11-2016 2:14am

Black Swan wrote: »

Cannot remember the source, but I recall reading a study awhile back that suggested sleeping on things studied the night before helped later recall and thinking; i.e., a variation of your "dust settles?"

I was just thinking about this, i remembered that a good friend of mine will sleep on a problem. He always leaves a notebook beside the bed as he will come up with solutions to work problems (he's in IT) while sleeping.. We still don't know the extent of our minds. If i have a problem it will usually interrupt my sleep or make it difficult to fall asleep in the first place where as he 'uses' the time for problem solving

Fathom · 14-11-2016 7:47pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

I was just thinking about this, i remembered that a good friend of mine will sleep on a problem. He always leaves a notebook beside the bed as he will come up with solutions to work problems (he's in IT) while sleeping..

Ben Franklin. Black Swan.

Black Swan · 16-11-2016 6:09pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

He always leaves a notebook beside the bed as he will come up with solutions to work problems (he's in IT) while sleeping..

Yes Grem and Fathom, I do keep a notebook by my bed, but not for documenting solutions to problems; rather to capture plot ideas for fictional writing.

Gremlinertia · 19-11-2016 2:26am

Another interesting little thing. Sometimes when i wake in the middle of a dream that i can remember i would often think about it for a while, hoping to get back to sleep. A lot of these times i would think where i would like the dream to go but don't really plan yet sometimes my dreams will go the way i wished when i fall back asleep..

Hugo Stiglitz · 19-11-2016 2:36am

The first one: My family were trying to turn me against my Dad for some reason. In the dream, I kept on having flashbacks to past events (in the dream world, if you understand) where he was violently angry, we were burying a body in the forest. My Dad in real life is a funny guy and a gentleman, so it messed with my head to see him like that in the dream.

The second one: I was cuddling with this petite brunette. Suddenly there were detectives gathered around and they were all laughing at me. Then this guy comes in and says that I'm innocent (not sure of what). Suddenly he's in the bathroom (Which is made of glass walls) and he takes an old fashioned cutt-throat razor and slits his throat. It suddenly cuts away to me and my ex-gf watching it on a huge TV screen and she's excitedly saying "The demon made him do it! Look, look!" and the demon came on the screen. In the dream I started freaking out and screaming. I looked away from the TV but I could still see the demon. I woke up then.

Gremlinertia · 19-11-2016 2:46am

Hugo, i really understand that stuff. The most disturbing element in my dreams, for me anyway, is people i know becoming unrecognisable in the way they act. As you said there your Dad is a gentlemen it must be horrifying see him act in an evil manner, that's quite similar to my own dreams where people change and it's definitely the hardest of the bad dreams to shake off.

Black Swan · 19-11-2016 6:12pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

A lot of these times i would think where i would like the dream to go but don't really plan yet sometimes my dreams will go the way i wished when i fall back asleep..

It's grand when a spicy dream picks up where it left off, which I've been lucky to experience every now and then.

Black Swan · 19-11-2016 6:19pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

The first one: My family were trying to turn me against my Dad for some reason. In the dream, I kept on having flashbacks to past events (in the dream world, if you understand) where he was violently angry, we were burying a body in the forest. My Dad in real life is a funny guy and a gentleman, so it messed with my head to see him like that in the dream.

Methinks that dreams should not be taken literally. Alternatively, they can introduce thoughts to ponder, although their origins may be irrational. (Not sure where these comments came from, other than the first few sips of my java have yet to take hold after a late Friday night)

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

The second one: I was cuddling with this petite brunette. Suddenly there were detectives gathered around and they were all laughing at me. Then this guy comes in and says that I'm innocent (not sure of what). Suddenly he's in the bathroom (Which is made of glass walls) and he takes an old fashioned cutt-throat razor and slits his throat. It suddenly cuts away to me and my ex-gf watching it on a huge TV screen and she's excitedly saying "The demon made him do it! Look, look!" and the demon came on the screen. In the dream I started freaking out and screaming. I looked away from the TV but I could still see the demon. I woke up then.

Hope Hugo is taking notes, as this could play for an interesting short-short story plot.

Fathom · 19-11-2016 8:49pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

The first one: My family were trying to turn me against my Dad for some reason.

Nightmare.

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

The second one: I was cuddling with this petite brunette. Suddenly there were detectives gathered around and they were all laughing at me. Then this guy comes in and says that I'm innocent (not sure of what). Suddenly he's in the bathroom (Which is made of glass walls) and he takes an old fashioned cutt-throat razor and slits his throat. It suddenly cuts away to me and my ex-gf watching it on a huge TV screen and she's excitedly saying "The demon made him do it! Look, look!" and the demon came on the screen. In the dream I started freaking out and screaming. I looked away from the TV but I could still see the demon. I woke up then.

Typical dream. Entertaining. I enjoy them.

Fathom · 19-11-2016 8:50pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

Hugo, i really understand that stuff. The most disturbing element in my dreams, for me anyway, is people i know becoming unrecognisable in the way they act. As you said there your Dad is a gentlemen it must be horrifying see him act in an evil manner, that's quite similar to my own dreams where people change and it's definitely the hardest of the bad dreams to shake off.

Unrecognizable? Physical appearance? Or personality? Both?

Fathom · 19-11-2016 8:58pm

Black Swan wrote: »

Methinks that dreams should not be taken literally.

Wise choice. Consider case studies? Both Sigmund and Anna Freud interpretations prescientific. Too subjective. Nonsense mostly.

Hugo Stiglitz · 19-11-2016 9:07pm

Black Swan wrote: »

Methinks that dreams should not be taken literally. Alternatively, they can introduce thoughts to ponder, although their origins may be irrational. (Not sure where these comments came from, other than the first few sips of my java have yet to take hold after a late Friday night)

Hope Hugo is taking notes, as this could play for an interesting short-short story plot.

It'd be good to profit from my nighttime crazy thoughts.

Fathom · 19-11-2016 9:09pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

It'd be good to profit from my nighttime crazy thoughts.

Do it Hugo!

Hugo Stiglitz · 19-11-2016 9:12pm

Fathom wrote: »

Do it Hugo!

I'll need help...

Fathom · 19-11-2016 9:13pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

I'll need help...

What kind?

Hugo Stiglitz · 19-11-2016 9:17pm

Fathom wrote: »

What kind?

All kind.

Fathom · 19-11-2016 9:18pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

All kind.

Specifics? Examples?

Hugo Stiglitz · 19-11-2016 9:23pm

Fathom wrote: »

Specifics? Examples?

Grammar and publishing contacts.

Fathom · 19-11-2016 9:25pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

Grammar

Can help.

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

and publishing contacts.

Write 1st.

Hugo Stiglitz · 19-11-2016 9:26pm

Fathom wrote: »

Can help.

Write 1st.

Excellant!

Sorry for dragging the thread off topic.

I did have another strange dream last night. Been a cluster of them recently.

Fathom · 19-11-2016 9:29pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

Excellant! Sorry for dragging the thread off topic.

Me mod. Hugo OK. Chat on.

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

I did have another strange dream last night. Been a cluster of them recently.

Share! :cool:

Fathom · 19-11-2016 9:31pm

Dream on! Lunch date. Laters!

Hugo Stiglitz · 19-11-2016 9:38pm

Fathom wrote: »

Me mod. Hugo OK. Chat on.

Too kind!

Fathom wrote: »

Share! :cool:

I shall write it up after pizza.

Fathom wrote: »

Dream on!

Lunch date. Laters!

Have fun!

Black Swan · 20-11-2016 8:14pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

I shall write it up after pizza.

Methinks that Hugo had a huge pizza and went sleepy-dreaming afterwards.

Fathom · 21-11-2016 11:12pm

Black Swan wrote: »

Methinks that Hugo had a huge pizza and went sleepy-dreaming afterwards.

Figures.

Hugo Stiglitz · 21-11-2016 11:28pm

Hangs head in forgetful shame.

In the dream, my older sister was suddenly living in a crappy ground floor apartment in Dublin's inner city. I was visiting her. She went to buy milk or something but came back with this sinister character. She asked me to pay him. I offered like €5 but he just laughed and wanted more money. I gave him more and more money but it just wasn't enough. As I panicked, he would laugh. Then it became clear that my sister would be the payment, if you understand me. I felt so helpless. Suddenly he was gone and I understood that I ended his life, although I don't remember it per se. A mostly upsetting dream but it redeemed itself in the end.

Fathom · 21-11-2016 11:31pm

Spooky dream Hugo!

Hugo Stiglitz · 21-11-2016 11:44pm

This cluster has been going on for about a week or more now. I wonder what causes it.

Black Swan · 22-11-2016 12:50am

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

This cluster has been going on for about a week or more now. I wonder what causes it.

Not sure what may be causing yours Hugo. Perhaps they were always there, but now that you are remembering and posting them, they are easier to recall?

Hugo Stiglitz · 22-11-2016 9:25am

Black Swan wrote: »

Not sure what may be causing yours Hugo. Perhaps they were always there, but now that you are remembering and posting them, they are easier to recall?

Could be. I don't have a regular sleeping pattern. I tend to sleep like 4/5 hours on week nights and 10 or more on weekends. Could be part of it.

Black Swan · 23-11-2016 7:16pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

Could be. I don't have a regular sleeping pattern. I tend to sleep like 4/5 hours on week nights and 10 or more on weekends. Could be part of it.

Alternative sleeping patterns may be the norm for a segment of the population, so your pattern would be normal for them. My patterns are alternative too, and have been for several years.

Hugo Stiglitz · 23-11-2016 7:37pm

Black Swan wrote: »

Alternative sleeping patterns may be the norm for a segment of the population, so your pattern would be normal for them. My patterns are alternative too, and have been for several years.

That's true I guess.

Dinxminx · 23-11-2016 7:51pm

I don't know if this could be it, but I know that when I'm stressed, even if I'm not conscious of it, I get clusters of horrific dreams. Could you be lowkey stressed about something? I'm actually so bad at recognising my stress levels that back-to-back nights of bad dreams and bad posture are usually my flashing red siren for stress awareness.

Hugo Stiglitz · 23-11-2016 7:57pm

Dinxminx wrote: »

I don't know if this could be it, but I know that when I'm stressed, even if I'm not conscious of it, I get clusters of horrific dreams. Could you be lowkey stressed about something? I'm actually so bad at recognising my stress levels that back-to-back nights of bad dreams and bad posture are usually my flashing red siren for stress awareness.

You could be onto something. Anxiety is actually a huge issue for me. Has been for many years.

Dinxminx · 23-11-2016 8:25pm

It really could be that then. Take a look at things and see if there's anything you can do to look after yourself and bring down your anxiety levels, see if that makes a difference.

Widdershins · 23-11-2016 8:27pm

Yes! I have them whenever I have too little control over my life, they seem to be telling me what I already know and I take them as a sign that things are getting serious.

Hugo Stiglitz · 23-11-2016 8:31pm

Dinxminx wrote: »

It really could be that then. Take a look at things and see if there's anything you can do to look after yourself and bring down your anxiety levels, see if that makes a difference.

Easier said than done alas!

Widdershins wrote: »

Yes! I have them whenever I have too little control over my life, they seem to be telling me what I already know and I take them as a sign that things are getting serious.

Good way of looking at things.

Black Swan · 24-11-2016 8:39pm

Interesting discussion you launched Hugo about clusters of upsetting dreams.

Hugo Stiglitz · 24-11-2016 8:41pm

Black Swan wrote: »

Interesting discussion you launched Hugo about clusters of upsetting dreams.

Too kind, Swannie.

Widdershins · 24-11-2016 8:49pm

Do you see any common themes in your recurring dreams, Hugo?
They seem to feature threatening/ domineering men?

Hugo Stiglitz · 24-11-2016 11:02pm

Widdershins wrote: »

Do you see any common themes in your recurring dreams, Hugo?
They seem to feature threatening/ domineering men?

Lately yeah. Before it was usually being humiliated.

A recurring dream I've had since childhood is only what I can describe as being crammed through a dark tiny pipe, with a huge sense of impending doom.

Widdershins · 24-11-2016 11:32pm

Mine always have deluges of water, muddy flooding, lashing rain, long precarious bridges over vast expanses of water, once i was driving too fast and the bridge was suddenly broken off and I ended up dangling in mid air upside down with only my foot in the car window. never rivers though.
I used to have dreams of being pursued relentlessly down winding flights of concrete stairs.
I had three snake dreams in a row one month. All really common symbols that Jung had ideas about.

Hugo Stiglitz · 25-11-2016 12:12am

Widdershins wrote: »

Mine always have deluges of water, muddy flooding, lashing rain, long precarious bridges over vast expanses of water, once i was driving too fast and the bridge was suddenly broken off and I ended up dangling in mid air upside down with only my foot in the car window. never rivers though.
I used to have dreams of being pursued relentlessly down winding flights of concrete stairs.
I had three snake dreams in a row one month. All really common symbols that Jung had ideas about.

Oh my! My palms got sweaty reading that! The sea is terrifying.

I've had several tsunami dreams. They were always like those huge tidal waves in the movies though.

Clusters of upsetting dreams

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