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El Presidente Trump

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    Water John wrote: »
    I think Laois Man, the truth of what you write is dawning on him already.

    Richard Osman predicted last night that he won't last four years. He'll be pissed off after 2.

    That's something that caught my attention in Trump's victory speech. He said he's here for the next 2 years or 3 years or 4 years or maybe even 8 years. Seemed a bizzare thing to say and I'm very surprised there hasn't been more commentary on it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    I read today that some f*ckers in Sligo are already working on inviting the Vice, Mr Pence over, because he has some ancestry from there. Why do you do this? It's so pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    You know, they still could put Hillary in if they badly enough wanted to. The electoral college votes on Dec19th, and it was the Republicans who actually united as candidates in a campaign against Trump, so it wouldn't be impossible that they simply give their vote to Hillary, to keep the status quo.

    It's extremely unlikely, given the ****storm that will result, particularly given people's tantrums on the streets lately, but it's not impossible....
    Keep in mind, Trump has court cases coming too, one over the University and one much more serious allegation of rape of a 13 year old in 94.

    Worth bearing in mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    Water John wrote: »
    I think Laois Man, the truth of what you write is dawning on him already.

    Richard Osman predicted last night that he won't last four years. He'll be pissed off after 2.

    Wrong on Clinton. she is quite religous, Methodist, according to her biographer.




    That's something that caught my attention in Trump's victory speech. He said he's here for the next 2 years or 3 years or 4 years or maybe even 8 years. Seemed a bizzare thing to say and I'm very surprised there hasn't been more commentary on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,838 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    That University thing, could work out quite dodgy for him.
    I think the word, fraud, may get mentioned a number of times.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    You know, they still could put Hillary in if they badly enough wanted to. The electoral college votes on Dec19th, and it was the Republicans who actually united as candidates in a campaign against Trump, so it wouldn't be impossible that they simply give their vote to Hillary, to keep the status quo.

    It's extremely unlikely, given the ****storm that will result, particularly given people's tantrums on the streets lately, but it's not impossible....
    Keep in mind, Trump has court cases coming too, one over the University and one much more serious allegation of rape of a 13 year old in 94.

    Worth bearing in mind.

    to be fair the rape case has been dropped as there wasn't a shred of reality to it, but that has been discussed here already so I wont go into it again. also the trump university case has very little meat to it and by all accounts is likely to be thrown out fairly quickly when it does make it to court


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,449 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Depp wrote: »
    think i saw something about ballots having the party rather than the candidate

    ..

    Just one example. Look on twitter for voting selfie or ballot selfie. Plenty from all over the country. Yet to see one with just party name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    ..

    Just one example. Look on twitter for voting selfie or ballot selfie. Plenty from all over the country. Yet to see one with just party name

    i see, just going on a video i posted several pages back about the malfuntioning machines in pa...video seemed to suggest the problem was with people who were just voting by party


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Ray Darcy compared Trump to Alan Partridge today, oh the irony. He then went on to insinuate that Trump is a psychopath. Was Darcy sound asleep while Clinton was busy orcracrating chaos in the Middle East? He's a very stupid man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭Flint Fredstone


    Ray Darcy compared Trump to Alan Partridge today, oh the irony. He then went on to insinuate that Trump is a psychopath. Was Darcy sound asleep while Clinton was busy orcracrating chaos in the Middle East? He's a very stupid man.

    Ah sure Ray will love him if he finds out about a bit of Irish ancestry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Ray Darcy compared Trump to Alan Partridge today, oh the irony. He then went on to insinuate that Trump is a psychopath. Was Darcy sound asleep while Clinton was busy orcracrating chaos in the Middle East? He's a very stupid man.

    He should stick to talking about IVF and leave out the shrill hyperbole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Laois_Man wrote: »
    That's something that caught my attention in Trump's victory speech. He said he's here for the next 2 years or 3 years or 4 years or maybe even 8 years. Seemed a bizzare thing to say and I'm very surprised there hasn't been more commentary on it.

    He's made noises about auditing and reforming the Federal Reserve, so even two years might be optimistic...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5



    In the meantime, my FB feed is finally showing articles from sites like Huffington Post (like http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-democratic-party-deserves-to-die_us_58236ad5e4b0aac62488cde5 ) and Cracked ( http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/ ) which, had anyone been paying attention to what they were saying a few months ago, may possibly have resulted in a different electoral result. The BBC news website four months ago put the nail on the head when they actually visited Trump-prone areas, and it wasn't about racism or mysogeny ( http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36752237 ) . Even though these articles in no way defend Trump or his positions, they explain clearly why the Democrats lost. Shame nobody in the American media or DNC reads the BBC.

    There seems to be a strange perception on the behalf of non-American right wing internet lurkers that Trump got elected because of all the things that are annoying them on the internet, that him being President is about 60% to do with transgender toilets or some shít.

    I would go out on a limb and say people living hand to mouth in the Rust Belt and all over America were more concerned about the decimation of US manufacturing, their taxes, feeding their children and so on than they were about Gamergate. There's definitely an element of 'things would be better if everyone was white and English speaking again' but Trump did not get elected because people were sick of political correctness, he got elected because people were sick of being hungry, poor and with no possibility of social mobility. That vote was misguided IMO but I can see how in a bad system it seemed like the best option to a lot of people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Depp wrote: »
    to be fair the rape case has been dropped as there wasn't a shred of reality to it, but that has been discussed here already so I wont go into it again. also the trump university case has very little meat to it and by all accounts is likely to be thrown out fairly quickly when it does make it to court

    Rape case was thrown out!? Jaysus that's the first I've heard of it, whoops :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,838 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    With his debt to the coal mine owners who financed him, he will renege on Paris Accord.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Ray Darcy compared Trump to Alan Partridge today, oh the irony. He then went on to insinuate that Trump is a psychopath. Was Darcy sound asleep while Clinton was busy orcracrating chaos in the Middle East? He's a very stupid man.

    Did he threaten to leave the country if Trump won? He does have a track record of it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    You have to remember that the US is still largely stuck in a kind of evangelical christian time warp outside of the big urban centres and away from the coasts. I find a lot of US politicians still pander to it, in much the same way as 1960s/70s Irish centrists used to piously demonstrate how close to the church they were.

    Even in Clinton's concession speech, she made references to scripture and you could tell it was all just a PR box ticking exercise.

    I still don't see how it would justify voting Trump, but if you were a genuine centre left voter, I could see exactly how Clinton would be off putting. You can see how she didn't enthuse a lot of voters who would have gone for Bernie.

    In an Irish context, she's more like a 1980s Fianna Failer,but so are most of the mainstream US politicians on the democratic side of the house. The republicans are closer to the DUP.

    Ireland's actually moved on a huge amount over the last 20 years, where as the US political system really hasn't. It has areas of enlightenment but it's mostly a very different, far more religiously conservative culture than we have here these days.

    Increasingly, I just find a lot of political culture in the US very alien and really regressive. We're definitely heading down two different tracks and perhaps had more in common 30+ years ago.

    With Clinton though I just felt like it was a case of "I passionately believe in whatever it is you believe in!"

    one question about this, while I'm by no means a devout catholic and disagree with a lot of religious opinions, do these people not deserve to have their voices heard in how their country is run? Isn't the liberal credo to love and respect people of all faiths? or is there an exemption for cases where said faith happens to be christianity?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭GreenFolder2


    Feels great knowing I voted for anti establishment candidate ready to #MAGA3X I voted for America today.🇺🇸
    namloc1980 wrote: »
    ..

    Just one example. Look on twitter for voting selfie or ballot selfie. Plenty from all over the country. Yet to see one with just party name

    Ah yes, those old blue blood anti-establishment billionaires who run for the Republican Party...

    Vote Monty Burns - the people's champion!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    maudgonner wrote: »
    Did he threaten to leave the country if Trump won? He does have a track record of it...

    Didn't hear him say that, but if there was a collection to send him into space to reconnect with zig and zag I'd contribute. I only tune in to Darcy for the comedy every now and again, the guy is a parody of himself, who takes him seriously?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    The hysteria will die down, once they come to terms that they lost and nothing they can do about it. Learn to live with it and stop crying about it like big babies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    The hysteria will die down, once they come to terms that they lost and nothing they can do about it. Learn to live with it and stop crying about it like big babies.

    You have to admit that the likes of Darcy and all the other right-on spineless jellyfish in the Irish media embarrassing themselves is really funny. Fantastic entertainment these last couple of days as all the shrill nincompoops have their hysterical meltdowns.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    Depp wrote: »
    one question about this, while I'm by no means a devout catholic and disagree with a lot of religious opinions, do these people not deserve to have their voices heard in how their country is run? Isn't the liberal credo to love and respect people of all faiths? or is there an exemption for cases where said faith happens to be christianity?

    The election was extremely sectarian. Both sides trying to win Muslim, Evangelicals, Roman Catholics, Lutherans all in the name of their cause.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Depp wrote: »
    one question about this, while I'm by no means a devout catholic and disagree with a lot of religious opinions, do these people not deserve to have their voices heard in how their country is run? Isn't the liberal credo to love and respect people of all faiths? or is there an exemption for cases where said faith happens to be christianity?


    Sure, but the problem is when certain religious people want other groups, such as women and LGBT people, to have their human rights taken away from them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭GreenFolder2


    I'm convinced it's going to just turn out like Berlusconi's Italian days.
    The US will be left internationally embarrassed by his antics and with a massive national debt in a few years time due to populist and failed economic policies.

    Then naturally enough, they'll blame the incoming Democratic president for not fixing it in 3 weeks.

    That or, he actually does try to do some of the stuff he promised and causes the whole country to become unstable. I doubt he will though.

    Still 70 days to go before he actually redecorates and installs those TRUMP neon signs on the Whitehouse lawn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭AnGaelach


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Sure, but the problem is when certain religious people want other groups, such as women and LGBT people, to have their human rights taken away from them.

    Why not just say Islam and Christianity instead of pussy-footing around it?


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How are these lawsuits going to play out for Trump? Are there papers lodged with the courts etc?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭GreenFolder2


    AnGaelach wrote: »
    Why not just say Islam and Christianity instead of pussy-footing around it?

    Don't use the words pussy-footing around Trump...It means something else.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Still 70 days to go before he actually redecorates and installs those TRUMP neon signs on the Whitehouse lawn.

    Or Trump Tower relabelled President Trump Tower- that and the Trump Wall suits his narcasistic tendencies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭tonycascarino


    I'm convinced it's going to just turn out like Berlusconi's Italian days. The US will be left internationally embarrassed by his antics and with a massive national debt in a few years time due to populist and failed economic policies.
    I am convinced we would be heading into WWIII if Clinton was elected.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    narcasistic tendencies

    If anyone in recent history has a right to be narcissistic it is Donald ****ing Trump.

    "He's a complete joke, he won't get the Republican nomination"

    /get's the nomination, is still rejected by his own party

    "He's a joke. Hillary will destroy him because he is patently ridiculous and his party aren't backing him."

    /becomes 45th President of The United States of America

    He is probably legitimately one of the most inspirational figures in recent history regardless of how you feel about his views.


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