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El Presidente Trump

Kermit.de.frog

It's happened folks. You are only waking up but it has happened. A genuine unstable idiot has become president of the US.

I will be asleep as you wake. But I will wake too and I will also think of the consequences and wonder is it a dream:eek:

It's not a dream.

It's real.

F**k

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tomwaterford

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Rumour that he will have Ben Carson as... Secretary of Education.

Jesus wept if true.

The man who thinks pyramids were grain silos and that the theory of evolution is made up by Satan.

This just gets better and better

AnGaelach

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Its over i can't see how we can survive 4 years of Trump. How the hell is he going to manage foreign affairs when hes ignorant about the real issues. A fascist in charge has never turned out good. People are ignoring everything he said previously and hoping he just said it to be elected. I doubt that he believed lot of hes crap before he ran for President. People forget he was a birther and said Obama was not American born before he ran for President. Hes a bully and hes unlikely to make a wise decision when faced with a real problem. I worry hes going to start a war with the wrong country and its only a matter of when not if. For example China he said the Island building in the China South Seas would not happen if he was President and he said trade deals with China need to be fixed. China will not sit back and just accept change willing.

China is in no position to argue, their economy was slowing, their demographics are fúcked even worse than Germany's, and their stock market had almost imploded last year.

If Trump wanted to, he could knock the Chinese economy down the shítter within a week, and the Chinese know it. I guarantee you, if Trump plays hardball with them, China will roll over for 4 years and hope someone less aggressive gets in at the next election.

tonycascarino

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

It's true though, the majority of voters wanted Clinton. I think most of us get thats not how the system works, but might as well stick to facts.

It seems to me that it is a great system when it elects the candidate one wants and a terrible system when it elects the candidate one doesn't want. At the end of the day I think Clinton supporters should just face up to it in that Trump was elected fair and square.

Cheerful Spring

tonycascarino wrote: »

I am convinced we would be heading into WWIII if Clinton was elected.

Its over i can't see how we can survive 4 years of Trump. How the hell is he going to manage foreign affairs when hes ignorant about the real issues. A fascist in charge has never turned out good. People are ignoring everything he said previously and hoping he just said it to be elected. I doubt that he believed lot of hes crap before he ran for President. People forget he was a birther and said Obama was not American born before he ran for President. Hes a bully and hes unlikely to make a wise decision when faced with a real problem. I worry hes going to start a war with the wrong country and its only a matter of when not if. For example China he said the Island building in the China South Seas would not happen if he was President and he said trade deals with China need to be fixed. China will not sit back and just accept change willing.

ChikiChiki

lawlolawl wrote: »

Russia and China are only considered the "bad guys" because of the latest administrations views.

Why not have them as World Police instead of America?

Why not have Europe as the world police? Seriously Europe seems to be the most rational out of all them countries plus we seem to be the ones to bear the brunt of the middle east backlash. Honestly I think the EU should stop being so friendly with the US and become more neutral.

Depp

Manic Moran wrote: »

If I were voting in an election for president, my vote would have gone into a pool to be counted against all the other votes cast for a preference for that one position. I was voting instead in a Presidential Election, a subtle but important difference. I do not elect the President, neither do other citizens who are not the 538. The states' electors vote for the President. I was basically voting in favour of a set of instructions to those electors from my state as to who they should vote for, that set of instructions to say "When you vote for president, you must vote for Candidate X". The "X" was determined by the result of the ballot which I, and other Californians, submitted, in this case, X being Clinton.

Does that help?

and there was me going on about single ticket voting like an eegit

Jelle1880

Rumour that he will have Ben Carson as... Secretary of Education.

Jesus wept if true.

The man who thinks pyramids were grain silos and that the theory of evolution is made up by Satan.

Jelle1880

Rumour that he will have Ben Carson as... Secretary of Education.

Jesus wept if true.

The man who thinks pyramids were grain silos and that the theory of evolution is made up by Satan.

lawlolawl

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Whether or not that's a good or bad thing is a whole different argument.

Good or bad thing doesn't matter. It's just how it is.

Trump beat her soundly within the rules of the competition for President of The United States of America.

30 odd years down the ****ter for Hilldawg

Manic Moran

namloc1980 wrote: »

Manic Moran wrote: »

When I went to the polls on Tuesday, I was not voting for a President.

Did your ballot have Clinton, Trump etc on it or the local Dem/Rep elector? I don't know how you can say you weren't voting for the President.

If I were voting in an election for president, my vote would have gone into a pool to be counted against all the other votes cast for a preference for that one position. I was voting instead in a Presidential Election, a subtle but important difference. I do not elect the President, neither do other citizens who are not the 538. The states' electors vote for the President. I was basically voting in a referendum over a set of instructions to those electors who represent my state as to who they should vote for, that set of instructions to say "When you vote for president, you must vote for Candidate X". The "X" was determined by the result of the ballot which I, and other Californians, submitted, in this case, X being Clinton.

Does that help?

Depp

old_aussie wrote: »

China on notice, Mexicans on notice, illegal immigrants on notice and moslims on notice.

Donald Trump's Muslim ban was removed from his website, but it's back

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-updates-trail-guide-so-what-s-the-deal-with-donald-trump-s-1478812963-htmlstory.html

The Aussie dollar is up, stocks are up, all is good.

The majority of voters want Trump. so the rest can stop whinging.

inb4 blah blah popular vote something something

ChikiChiki

tonycascarino wrote: »

I am convinced we would be heading into WWIII if Clinton was elected.

I'm pretty sure you're correct given all evidence and for that reason alone I'm a tad relieved Trump got elected even though he's an absolute buffoon.

old_aussie

China on notice, Mexicans on notice, illegal immigrants on notice and moslims on notice.

Donald Trump's Muslim ban was removed from his website, but it's back

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-updates-trail-guide-so-what-s-the-deal-with-donald-trump-s-1478812963-htmlstory.html

The Aussie dollar is up, stocks are up, all is good.

The majority of voters want Trump. so the rest can stop whinging.

AnGaelach

lawlolawl wrote: »

Russia and China are only considered the "bad guys" because of the latest administrations views.

Why not have them as World Police instead of America?

Hahahaha

The_Kew_Tour

AnGaelach wrote: »

Why would you care whether they're male or female though?

I don't really just for a change for the good
. Im not overly worried about gender, just think it be nice change.

AnGaelach

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I would love see Woman President but just not a warmonger like her.

Why would you care whether they're male or female though?

lawlolawl

Firefox11 wrote: »

Trumps foreign policy wants to withdraw american support for its allies giving the likes of Russia and China free reign to whatever the hell they want making the world a lot less secure and a lot less stable.

Russia and China are only considered the "bad guys" because of the latest administrations views.

Why not have them as World Police instead of America?

The_Kew_Tour

I see few ppsts on my facebook showing of George Bush Junior and people saying he was not all as bad now.

People really do have short memories.

Any chance we could do this all over again without Trump or Clinton.

I would love see Woman President but just not a warmonger like her.

Firefox11

tonycascarino wrote: »

I am convinced we would be heading into WWIII if Clinton was elected.

Trumps foreign policy wants to withdraw american support for its allies giving the likes of Russia and China free reign to whatever the hell they want making the world a lot less secure and a lot less stable.

Widdershins

tonycascarino wrote: »

I am convinced we would be heading into WWIII if Clinton was elected.

And there's a lot more than conjecture to support that idea. Unlike a general dislike of Trump who is as yet untested!

lawlolawl

Deleted User wrote: »

narcasistic tendencies

If anyone in recent history has a right to be narcissistic it is Donald ****ing Trump.

"He's a complete joke, he won't get the Republican nomination"

/get's the nomination, is still rejected by his own party

"He's a joke. Hillary will destroy him because he is patently ridiculous and his party aren't backing him."

/becomes 45th President of The United States of America

He is probably legitimately one of the most inspirational figures in recent history regardless of how you feel about his views.

tonycascarino

GreenFolder2 wrote: »

I'm convinced it's going to just turn out like Berlusconi's Italian days. The US will be left internationally embarrassed by his antics and with a massive national debt in a few years time due to populist and failed economic policies.

I am convinced we would be heading into WWIII if Clinton was elected.

[Deleted User]

GreenFolder2 wrote: »

Still 70 days to go before he actually redecorates and installs those TRUMP neon signs on the Whitehouse lawn.

Or Trump Tower relabelled President Trump Tower- that and the Trump Wall suits his narcasistic tendencies

GreenFolder2

AnGaelach wrote: »

Why not just say Islam and Christianity instead of pussy-footing around it?

Don't use the words pussy-footing around Trump...It means something else.

[Deleted User]

How are these lawsuits going to play out for Trump? Are there papers lodged with the courts etc?

AnGaelach

JupiterKid wrote: »

Sure, but the problem is when certain religious people want other groups, such as women and LGBT people, to have their human rights taken away from them.

Why not just say Islam and Christianity instead of pussy-footing around it?

GreenFolder2

I'm convinced it's going to just turn out like Berlusconi's Italian days.
The US will be left internationally embarrassed by his antics and with a massive national debt in a few years time due to populist and failed economic policies.

Then naturally enough, they'll blame the incoming Democratic president for not fixing it in 3 weeks.

That or, he actually does try to do some of the stuff he promised and causes the whole country to become unstable. I doubt he will though.

Still 70 days to go before he actually redecorates and installs those TRUMP neon signs on the Whitehouse lawn.

JupiterKid

Depp wrote: »

one question about this, while I'm by no means a devout catholic and disagree with a lot of religious opinions, do these people not deserve to have their voices heard in how their country is run? Isn't the liberal credo to love and respect people of all faiths? or is there an exemption for cases where said faith happens to be christianity?

Sure, but the problem is when certain religious people want other groups, such as women and LGBT people, to have their human rights taken away from them.

KingBrian2

Depp wrote: »

one question about this, while I'm by no means a devout catholic and disagree with a lot of religious opinions, do these people not deserve to have their voices heard in how their country is run? Isn't the liberal credo to love and respect people of all faiths? or is there an exemption for cases where said faith happens to be christianity?

The election was extremely sectarian. Both sides trying to win Muslim, Evangelicals, Roman Catholics, Lutherans all in the name of their cause.

Jimmy Garlic

A Little Pony wrote: »

The hysteria will die down, once they come to terms that they lost and nothing they can do about it. Learn to live with it and stop crying about it like big babies.

You have to admit that the likes of Darcy and all the other right-on spineless jellyfish in the Irish media embarrassing themselves is really funny. Fantastic entertainment these last couple of days as all the shrill nincompoops have their hysterical meltdowns.