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Sure-Fire Signs That an area is Rough

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Estates where the emergency services are the enemy.

    I had the misfortune of working in an estate in with huge social problems.

    One day while I was there, a chap ,v drunk and high, and some of his mates started beating the crap out of their girlfriends. Seriously beating them, all the while the locals stood and watched. Gardai and ambulance pulled up and were immediately attacked themselves by the crowd.

    Even the girls who were after having the crap kicked out of them started attacking the gardai. The ambulance had all its windows smashed and 2 Gardai ended up in hospital.

    The playground is constantly locked due to vandalism, there are more dealers than legitimately employed people and motor tax/insurance/nct are "not for them".

    The money spent on services and supports for the estate is scary, ESP when far more deserving ones have to do without.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Diemos wrote: »
    Bookies.

    You could count the amount of bookies in posh parts of Dublin on one hand.
    Poorer parts, they can be next door to each other.

    Nah, the Stock Market is the Paddy Powers of the superior class. Also, they actually own the horses..........


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Owryan wrote: »
    Estates where the emergency services are the enemy.

    I had the misfortune of working in an estate in with huge social problems.

    One day while I was there, a chap ,v drunk and high, and some of his mates started beating the crap out of their girlfriends. Seriously beating them, all the while the locals stood and watched. Gardai and ambulance pulled up and were immediately attacked themselves by the crowd.

    Even the girls who were after having the crap kicked out of them started attacking the gardai. The ambulance had all its windows smashed and 2 Gardai ended up in hospital.

    The playground is constantly locked due to vandalism, there are more dealers than legitimately employed people and motor tax/insurance/nct are "not for them".

    The money spent on services and supports for the estate is scary, ESP when far more deserving ones have to do without.

    Perhaps these places should be barricaded, and the herd banned from the City. Cut off their welfare, and every couple of days cut of their water and electricity supply for a laugh.

    Why would just two Gardaí with a tiny baton , have bothered going in alone. Let them knock the heads off each other for all society cares. The only saving grace for the Gardaí is that they will get their revenge sooner rather than later. People can have awful trips in a cell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,204 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Douglas?

    Baile an Easpaig. Plenty bookies around as well! :pac:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Willow park athlone

    Once took Mrs demanufactured through it for a drive (she's not from athlone)
    We got down to Meadowbrook...just as we turn the corner there's a kid of maybe 5 or 6 years old standing at a gate swinging a lump hammer..."keep drivin" he says...I couldn't stop laughing the whole way home....herself couldn't belive it.

    There is the thing about Willow Park

    From 1970-2000, some of the most well known and respected Athlone Families lived in that area. By the turn of 2000 most of them fled to the Monksland / Roscommon area and many other parts of town. It once was a decent area. Now a complete kip. Mels lads got in

    Speaking of Mels, they knocked that all down. Council set up a "Community Center" within a year it was closed up and boarded up. Only one or two well kept houses on that row.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭milehip





    Our graves will always be the same,

    ..


    You've never seen a travellers final resting place obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    Well I tell you one thing people,

    No matter how big your house is,
    How recent your car is, or how big
    your bank account is.

    Our graves will always be the same,

    Stay humble there folks...


    You clearly have never been to the areas of graveyards where members of a certain community are buried. Or crimelordscumbags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    Anywhere named after a republican, old ira 1916 leader is a rough area,
    mostly local authority blocks , estates built in the 80s .
    since the 90s, they use neutral names for estates ,eg grangemore ,glenview
    etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,204 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    riclad wrote: »
    Anywhere named after a republican, old ira 1916 leader is a rough area,
    mostly local authority blocks , estates built in the 80s .
    since the 90s, they use neutral names for estates ,eg grangemore ,glenview
    etc

    This seems to be the way of it. Also, the more pious the name - St. Ita's Road, Canon Murphy Park, Sr. Carmencita Xavier "For the luvva Jaysis" Mullarkey Avenue - the more likely you are to be maimed by an eight-year-old piloting a low-flying sulkie. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭milehip


    Don't know if it has bern mentioned yet, too much to read through..... For me it is the amount of Christmas lights put outside the house.

    PS I believe the term working class is almost redundant now. Many who claim to be part of it have never worked an honest day in their lives

    Reminds me of the programme John Prescott did about the class system in the UK he was talking to some teenage girls from a housing estate

    The exchange went something like this;

    Prescott: What class would you describe yourselves as?

    Girl: Middle class.

    P: oh I would have said you were working class.

    G: but I don't work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Sure-fire signs that you're a wimp - starting a thread like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭holly_johnson


    Runners tied together by the laces dangling from the power/phone lines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Walter H Price


    Lux23 wrote: »
    Sure-fire signs that you're a wimp - starting a thread like this.

    Ah its only a bit of a laugh like


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    milehip wrote: »
    You've never seen a travellers final resting place obviously.

    Or a funeral, where the Gardaí get a day out to mark their respects and offer security


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Lt Dan wrote: »
    Or a funeral, where the Gardaí get a day out to mark their respects and offer security

    Don't forget all the public houses close to demonstrate their sorrow for the loss


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 314 ✭✭Dr Jakub


    Lux23 wrote: »
    Sure-fire signs that you're a wimp - starting a thread like this.

    Say dat to me face ya fukin rah!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979


    Lux23 wrote: »
    Sure-fire signs that you're a wimp - starting a thread like this.

    It's better than your threads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979


    walshyn93 wrote: »
    Yeah not really. If there's one in Dundrum village I haven't seen it. There's none in Donnybrook. None in Blackrock or Stillorgan to my knowledge. I think Rathmines is the closest one to those areas.

    There's 3 in Stillorgan, bookies are everywhere in this country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    milehip wrote: »
    You've never seen a travellers final resting place obviously.
    You clearly have never been to the areas of graveyards where members of a certain community are buried. Or crimelordscumbags.





    ;) There the gravestones, which actually just give the details of the persons underneath, So obviously you missed were I said that , but carry on


    FYI
    It can depend on your cemetery, but standard sizes are as follows;
    • Single 4'0 wide, Double 8'0 wide, Treble from 10'0.

    So we all going into the same hole:P:pac: I say with some of the people posting here it be ironic to be right beside some of the people being judged, It probably make you turn in your grave ...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,830 ✭✭✭Cookie_Dough


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    The place in question being anywhere on this list:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057052112/6?

    I love how the street view hasn't been updated since Oct 2010, it's as though the google street view car is afraid to drive around the neighbourhood :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    ;) There the gravestones, which actually just give the details of the persons underneath, So obviously you missed were I said that , but carry on


    FYI
    It can depend on your cemetery, but standard sizes are as follows;
    • Single 4'0 wide, Double 8'0 wide, Treble from 10'0.

    So we all going into the same hole:P:pac: I say with some of the people posting here it be ironic to be right beside some of the people being judged, It probably make you turn in your grave ...

    You clearly have never been to the areas of graveyards where members of a certain community are buried.

    Ironic? No, the judgment tends to be based on experience.

    I have a niece and a father who is now buried beside members of this community. It is no fun. A week after burying our niece , a child of theirs was buried. Even for a child there was police attending . Knowing damn well that there would be problems , we went down to the niece's grave later that evening to ensure that the plot was not trampled on. Alas, plenty of foot prints- Travelers grave was the next one! It does not take Eistein to know who it was. If anyone dared to that to their graves, they would probably mashed over whatever cross or headstone that you may have on a grave of your people. In fact, they have a habbit of smashing their own communities head stones.

    I recall another grave next to my family was a big attraction, not because of the ghastly headstones and decoration (which by the way, is intended only to be used once despite being a double plot - note the land shortages and costs to get a plot today) but because of the bullet holes lodged in said headstones

    Then we had one of the Pattern masses in the graveyard . They bring their herd of children and adults (many act like children) They do not give a damn who you are, they will allow their children to walk on the graves of others. It is only when you make it very clear to them that you would gladly play a part in their early retirement to a similar hole unless they leave your families grave, do they get the message. (obviously you are not alone when you approach them)

    I trust you take into account the height of the "tombstones" as well?


    "which actually just give the details of the persons "

    Yes, I really want to know what their favorite alcoholic drink was (Marble Carvings of same) or sculpted out pictures of horses (which, to be fair, are part of their identity)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    jimgoose wrote: »
    A good chipper doesn't do any great harm. One of the best chippers in Cork is located slap-bang in the middle of the decidedly comfortable, quiet, middle-of-the-road, middle-of-everything, two-Heiners-and-a-gin'n'ton-ton-there-chief, birds-shitting-on-the-Jaguar-again-the-dirty-little-mingers, suburb where I myself maintain my little swamp. :D

    Whats that, Douglas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Walter H Price


    ;) There the gravestones, which actually just give the details of the persons underneath, So obviously you missed were I said that , but carry on


    FYI
    It can depend on your cemetery, but standard sizes are as follows;
    • Single 4'0 wide, Double 8'0 wide, Treble from 10'0.

    So we all going into the same hole:P:pac: I say with some of the people posting here it be ironic to be right beside some of the people being judged, It probably make you turn in your grave ...

    Not sure anyone is judging anyone , it undeniable fact that there are some seriously kippy areas around Dublin and the rest of the country. its a fairly lighthearted thread pointing out what gives you a sign an area is rough as a badgers hole.

    Hop down off that high horse there lad


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    There's 3 in Stillorgan, bookies are everywhere in this country.

    Sure there is a racecourse in Leopardstown, of course there will be bookies near by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,204 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Whats that, Douglas?

    No, Bishopstown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Well I tell you one thing people,

    No matter how big your house is,
    How recent your car is, or how big
    your bank account is.

    Our graves will always be the same,

    Stay humble there folks...

    Im gonna have my gravestone made of Jade, with white gold inserts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    walshyn93 wrote: »
    Yeah not really. If there's one in Dundrum village I haven't seen it. There's none in Donnybrook. None in Blackrock or Stillorgan to my knowledge. I think Rathmines is the closest one to those areas.

    There's two bookies' in Dundrum. There's two in Stillorgan. There's two in Blackrock. In fact, there tends to be a bookmakers within a stone's throw of any pub. It's not by accident.

    By saying there's only bookie shops in rough parts of Dublin is a little like saying that gambling is only for 'rough' people. If that were true then there'd be no bookie shops because knackers don't have enough money to gamble with. They're not wealthy enough to keep the bookies in business. Paddy Power made profits of £167,000,000 last year and they didn't do that by relying on dole merchants


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭Speedsie
    ¡arriba, arriba! ¡andale, andale!


    milehip wrote: »
    Reminds me of the programme John Prescott did about the class system in the UK he was talking to some teenage girls from a housing estate

    The exchange went something like this;

    Prescott: What class would you describe yourselves as?

    Girl: Middle class.

    P: oh I would have said you were working class.

    G: but I don't work.

    I've told so many people about that programme (at least that part of it!) and they don't believe it happened. So glad someone else saw it!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭milehip


    Speedsie wrote: »
    I've told so many people about that programme (at least that part of it!) and they don't believe it happened. So glad someone else saw it!


    Same as,It was almost like a real life little Britain!!


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