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Cringeworthy irish traditions that won't just die

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  • #272
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    What I find cringeworthy is young people with Southern California accents they've picked up from watching too much US TV. Or Irish people like Kevin Myers who has retained a pseudo-aristocratic English accent in an attempt to lend his servile pro-British/Unionist attention-seeker views more 'authority'.

    There was an Irish drink-driving awareness advert, a couple of years back, that had a gormless foxy-haired drunk driver being admonished by an English-accented Irish judge (apparently these cultural cringers believe an anglo-aristocratic accent imbues its speaker with authority)

    That makes me cringe.


  • #273
    uch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭uch


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    What I find cringeworthy is young people with Southern California accents they've picked up from watching too much US TV. Or Irish people like Kevin Myers who has retained a pseudo-aristocratic English accent in an attempt to lend his servile pro-British/Unionist attention-seeker views more 'authority'.

    There was an Irish drink-driving awareness advert, a couple of years back, that had a gormless foxy-haired drunk driver being admonished by an English-accented Irish judge (apparently these cultural cringers believe an anglo-aristocratic accent imbues its speaker with authority)

    That makes me cringe.

    I Like how thorough you are, good man

    22/25



  • #274
    JupiterKid
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    Calling your partner your "other half" or "herself/himself."

    Using the word "ye" instead of "you." Not cringeworthy, just Irish.


  • #275
    AnGaelach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭AnGaelach


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Cultural cringe, in cultural studies and social anthropology, is an internalized inferiority complex that causes people in a country to dismiss their own culture as inferior to the cultures of other countries. It is closely related to the concept of colonial mentality and is often linked with the display of anti-intellectual attitudes towards thinkers, scientists, and artists who originate from a colonial or post-colonial nation. It can also be manifested in individuals in the form of cultural alienation.

    wikipedia.org

    That was so swift and brutal I can't help but admire it. God damn.


  • #276
    LordSutch
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    ... Or Irish people like Kevin Myers who has retained a pseudo-aristocratic English accent in an attempt to lend his servile pro-British/Unionist attention-seeker views more 'authority'.

    There was an Irish drink-driving awareness advert, a couple of years back, that had a gormless foxy-haired drunk driver being admonished by an English-accented Irish judge (apparently these cultural cringers believe an anglo-aristocratic accent imbues its speaker with authority)

    That makes me cringe.

    That's more like it Tom, I think between this post and this one (post 211) we can see exactly where you're coming from. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=101486685&postcount=211

    Your very particular use of language "Fenian upstart-Unionist-Royalist-English accent-British/Unionist, attention-seeker, Punch Magazine etc sets out your stall ...

    You seem very angry Tom, in a thread that could have been just a lighthearted & amusing collection of peoples gringeworthy dislikes.

    You obviously have a very big axe to grind, which you kicked off with on the very 1st page.

    I'll leave you to it now.


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  • #277
    foxy farmer
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    Having the "Station" mass in the house every few years. Usually involves months of cleaning and redecorating just because the parish priest and a few neighbours from the townland will be in the house for a few hours.
    There's usually an unofficial rota of houses to be followed. 2 stations each year spring and autumn. Parish distributes brown envelopes in each station area a week or 2 before with date and time of the event. The envelope is handed up on the night with a contribution for the priests in it. About €50 is the norm. A cold plate is the usual grub served with plenty apple tart, tea, cheese cake and pavlova. Drink can be flowing in some places or scarce if the house is a dry house, ie owned by pioneers or teetotallers.


  • #278
    pragmatic1
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    Whatever the musical genre is that tries to meld traditional Irish music, which is beautiful when done right, with hick American music e.g. Daniel O'Donnell.

    It's especially a shame when our own traditional music is beautiful and full of soul.


  • #279
    Poor Uncle Tom
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    What I find cringeworthy is young people with Southern California accents they've picked up from watching too much US TV. Or Irish people like Kevin Myers who has retained a pseudo-aristocratic English accent in an attempt to lend his servile pro-British/Unionist attention-seeker views more 'authority'.

    There was an Irish drink-driving awareness advert, a couple of years back, that had a gormless foxy-haired drunk driver being admonished by an English-accented Irish judge (apparently these cultural cringers believe an anglo-aristocratic accent imbues its speaker with authority)

    That makes me cringe.

    There's nothing quite like an Irish 'put down', it starts off slow, aimed at something mildly irksome, gathers momentum and rounds on its actual target unleashing a paralysing sidewinder, then takes its time in dissecting the unwitting victim in its gory brilliance.

    An absolute joy to behold.

    Bravo....


  • #280
    pragmatic1
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    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Not an Irish tradition, it's more American, plenty gobsh1tes in Ireland trying to imitate American culture over the last few years.

    I hate the Americanisation of our culture. I think it's become so prevalent in the younger generation.


  • #281
    Poor Uncle Tom
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    That's more like it Tom, I think between this post and this one (post 211) we can see exactly where you're coming from. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=101486685&postcount=211

    Your very particular use of language "Fenian upstart-Unionist-Royalist-English accent-British/Unionist, attention-seeker, Punch Magazine etc sets out your stall ...

    You seem very angry Tom, in a thread that could have been just a lighthearted & amusing collection of peoples gringeworthy dislikes.

    You obviously have a very big axe to grind, which you kicked off with on the very 1st page.

    I'll leave you to it now.

    Is there a little more to your unsename than you are letting on there Lord? you seem a little sensitive....


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  • #282
    pragmatic1
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    iLikeWaffles wrote: »
    The Christmas jumper. Why just why?
    Don't get it either. Are people trying to be fun and wacky or something. What a bunch of ****in sheep.


  • #283
    Speedsie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭Speedsie
    ¡arriba, arriba! ¡andale, andale!


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Or Irish people like Kevin Myers who has retained a pseudo-aristocratic English accent in an attempt to lend his servile pro-British/Unionist attention-seeker views more 'authority'.
    Isn't Kevin Myers from Leicester? I think he went to an English public school as well.


  • #284
    Too Tough To Die
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    The seemingly thriving Irish 'country and western' music scene.


  • #285
    LordSutch
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    Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »
    Is there a little more to your unsename than you are letting on there Lord? you seem a little sensitive....

    My username refers to Screaming Lord Sutch. A musical, crazy, political, anarchist with a penchant for dressing up on election night :)

    As regards old Junkyard, well he never misses an opportunity to get his Republican agenda into a thread. Any thread, even this thread, on page one.


  • #286
    Oops69
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    The ' wran' Boys tradition on Boxing Day , give us a break ��


  • #287
    kstand
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    The country and western scene. It's absolutely dire, clowns in cowboy hats singing with put on Alabama accents.


  • #288
    biko
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    Nicknames for statues.


  • #289
    George White
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    What I find cringeworthy is young people with Southern California accents they've picked up from watching too much US TV. Or Irish people like Kevin Myers who has retained a pseudo-aristocratic English accent in an attempt to lend his servile pro-British/Unionist attention-seeker views more 'authority'.

    There was an Irish drink-driving awareness advert, a couple of years back, that had a gormless foxy-haired drunk driver being admonished by an English-accented Irish judge (apparently these cultural cringers believe an anglo-aristocratic accent imbues its speaker with authority)

    That makes me cringe.
    The latter is prob. drama school training, giving you an RP accent. For example, Edward Mulhare (Devon in Knight Rider) was Corkonian but actually spoke with a RP accent in real life as he did when playing UK characters.
    And as for Americans, I mistake almost every D4 girl I meet as Canadian.


  • #290
    lawred2
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    This Facebook group getting loads of personality lacking, crowd following, wacky try hards going to mass this weekend has me cringing harder than I've cringed in a while.


  • #291
    endacl
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    Oops69 wrote: »
    The ' wran' Boys tradition on Boxing Day , give us a break ��

    St. Stephen's Day? OK. I get you now. This is an inferiority complex. Or, as posted earlier, cultural cringe?...

    The wran only really survives in communities to whom it matters these days. Like lighting bonfires to mark the route of a wedding. It's people feeling like they belong together, engaging together in a practice that goes back beyond recorded history. Who could have a problem with that? Somebody who might claim they only do it to pretend they're connected to a deep-rooted heritage, I suppose. But who takes those people seriously...?

    ;)


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  • #292
    lawred2
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    As long as it's local kids and not roaming travellers hoping to intimidate people into a few quid I've no problem with the wren. It's a nice tradition.


  • #293
    Oops69
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    endacl wrote: »
    St. Stephen's Day? OK. I get you now. This is an inferiority complex. Or, as posted earlier, cultural cringe?...

    The wran only really survives in communities to whom it matters these days. Like lighting bonfires to mark the route of a wedding. It's people feeling like they belong together, engaging together in a practice that goes back beyond recorded history. Who could have a problem with that? Somebody who might claim they only do it to pretend they're connected to a deep-rooted heritage, I suppose. But who takes those people seriously...?

    ;)
    oh please , don't tell me you fell for the boxing day hook, you need to wake up earlier on a saturday , as regards your other point , yeah , lets all sing kumbaya round the campfire , each one in those so called communities would rip each other s throats out if given half a chance .


  • #294
    endacl
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    Oops69 wrote: »
    oh please , don't tell me you fell for the boxing day hook, you need to wake up earlier on a saturday , as regards your other point , yeah , lets all sing kumbaya round the campfire , each one in those so called communities would rip each other s throats out if given half a chance .

    Th hook? No. just taking your posts at face value. In the spirit of discussion. On a discussion board.

    You sound hurt. What happened?


  • #295
    bodhrandude
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    kstand wrote: »
    The country and western scene. It's absolutely dire, clowns in cowboy hats singing with put on Alabama accents.

    Theres a fellah who plays gigs in my parents hometown in Leitrim, he plays all the same pubs on the same night with his beat up accordion and drum machine and there is 5 pubs in this town. If you go to escape his music he tends to follow you for his next gig. No wonder most young people there hitch off to Bundoran which is not that much better really unless Sea Sessions festival is on.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #296
    Junkyard Tom
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    You obviously have a very big axe to grind, which you kicked off with on the very 1st page. I'll leave you to it now.

    Honestly, your reaction to the first post I made is quite the spectacle. It appears to me that the number of thanks it got took you by surprise and perhaps made you uncomfortable about going on an Irish culture/tradition bashing binge. Also this 'networked response' conspiracy you speak of is hilarious.
    George White wrote: »
    The latter is prob. drama school training, giving you an RP accent.

    Fair point. You know they actually changed the voice over of the judge in that advert to one with a... how should I put it.. less 'theatrical' more local tone as you can hear in the link.


  • #297
    LordSutch
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Honestly, your reaction to the first post I made is quite the spectacle. It appears to me that the number of thanks it got took you by surprise and perhaps made you uncomfortable about going on an Irish culture/tradition bashing binge. Also this 'networked response' conspiracy you speak of is hilarious.

    But what has Kevin Myers accent got to do with it? Why does that upset you so much? also, whats with all the Loyalist English Royalist guff you've posted in this thread?

    Surely we can have a cringe about some tradition or other without some kind of "colonial" alienation (as you put it).

    I listed the Rose of Tralee, so what does that say about me?


  • #298
    Junkyard Tom
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    But what has Kevin Myers accent got to do with it? Why does that upset you so much?

    I'm not upset. I listed a couple of things Irish people do that make me cringe even though I know it's not unique to Ireland.
    also, whats with all the Loyalist English Royalist guff you've posted in this thread?

    I described you as an Irish Unionist/Royalist, you are aren't you? Say what you see.
    I listed the Rose of Tralee, so what does that say about me?

    Not very much. The Rose Of Tralee is a beauty pageant of sorts and is not unique to Ireland. It does have a certain cringe factor alright I'll give you that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4o99f2ErLo


  • #299
    5rtytry56
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    Probably said already, but herd mentality types going on with some sh|te because "it has to be done because it has to be done"


  • #300
    the purple tin
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    Sue Pa Key Pa wrote: »
    The good biscuits for visitors

    I'd say the more common Irish tradition is offering rich tea and digestives to the visitors and keeping the nice biccies for yourself.


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  • #301
    fryup
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    kstand wrote: »
    The country and western scene. It's absolutely dire, clowns in cowboy hats singing with put on Alabama accents.

    can't understand that either, why are the irish obsessed with country & western music??

    can't think of any other country in europe where it has the same following


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