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Dem cyclists all break de lights Joe!

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  • #212
    magicbastarder
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    that happens all the time at the junction just up from my house.


  • #213
    jive
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    Moflojo wrote: »
    Whataboutery Update:

    Cycling home just now at 9pm in Dublin. Waiting at a red light to turn left, the filter light turns green for straight on & right. Car behind me revs his engine, drives past me, through the red filter and breezes through the amber pedestrian light.

    Here's the worst part; the motorist wasn't even wearing a helmet.

    Did he have a high vis on at least?


  • #214
    ted1
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    jive wrote: »
    Did he have a high vis on at least?

    Was he listening to the radio? Was his tax in date ?


  • #215
    tomasrojo
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    I bet he went on to park on the footpad.


  • #216
    Chuchote
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    tomasrojo wrote: »
    I bet he went on to park on the footpad.

    Hopefully not! I'm all for capturing criminals, but parking on them is going a bit far!


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  • #217
    eeguy
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    You definitely don't get the same courtesy motorists give each other.

    I was merging into a spot between two cars in stopped traffic yesterday. Lovely woman in the white Audi closed the gap and almost tipped the bumper of the car ahead of her.


  • #218
    Moflojo
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    jive wrote: »
    Did he have a high vis on at least?

    Can confirm; he was not wearing a hi vis.

    He wasn't wearing driving gloves either, what's that about? I thought all motorists were fanatical racing types who think they're Steve McQueen?


  • #219
    jive
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    Moflojo wrote: »
    Can confirm; he was not wearing a hi vis.

    He wasn't wearing driving gloves either, what's that about? I thought all motorists were fanatical racing types who think they're Steve McQueen?

    The amount of motorists I see not wearing driving jackets is alarming, enforcement is the issue


  • #220
    tomasrojo
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    I know they're not required by law, but surely five-point harnesses are a no-brainer?


  • #221
    Lumen
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    tomasrojo wrote: »
    I know they're not required by law, but surely five-point harnesses are a no-brainer?
    I used to own a car with 5 point harnesses. Good in a crash, not so much when pulling out of a T-junction.


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  • #222
    Moflojo
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    tomasrojo wrote: »
    I know they're not required by law, but surely five-point harnesses are a no-brainer?

    There's a militant element out there that are diametrically opposed to wearing any seatbelts at all. There are studies that show drivers behave more cautiously when not wearing a seatbelt because they're more aware of the danger.


  • #223
    Skrynesaver
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    Forget seat belts watch how handy they take it with one of these safety features added...

    steering_spike.jpg


  • #224
    2RockMountain
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    tomasrojo wrote: »
    I know they're not required by law, but surely five-point harnesses are a no-brainer?

    If it saves one life...


  • #225
    Chuchote
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    Moflojo wrote: »
    There's a militant element out there that are diametrically opposed to wearing any seatbelts at all. There are studies that show drivers behave more cautiously when not wearing a seatbelt because they're more aware of the danger.

    Not a lot of help when you're doing 120 on a motorway and someone comes sailing out of a slip road.


  • #226
    Moflojo
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    Chuchote wrote: »
    Not a lot of help when you're doing 120 on a motorway and someone comes sailing out of a slip road.

    I think you misheard me, I said: "There are studies..."

    End of.


  • #227
    Pinch Flat
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    My story of motorist impatience at lights. Coming from work the other evening, I was in the left lane waiting to go through the junction at the centra at laurel lodge near where I live, guy in a micra pulls up in the right lane, turning right I thought.

    Lights go green, he shoots forward, into oncoming traffic, then overtakes the car he was trying to get in front of on a blind bend, into oncoming traffic who had to break sharply. Gets in front of the guy he was overtaking and proceeds on without a breeze in the world. Nearly caused a nasty accident.

    No one dying or in labour in the front seat from what I could see, but then again it was dark. You'd never know.


  • #228
    ThisRegard
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    Reminds me of the time I was out for a run and running on a footpath against traffic, rush hour. From way back I see a Micra mount the footpath and straddle the cycle lane/footpath in order to skip the queuing traffic. Who's this f'ing eejit I was thinking. As it got closer there was a woman, very obviously in labour pain, in the passenger seat.

    And a few years ago I was rushing my concussed daughter, who was vomiting, to Temple Street one Saturday afternoon. I was using the bus lanes and there was no end to the people who tried to block me off by moving over and straddling the lanes, including a private coach which purposely slowed down to hold me up, who then got very angry when I drove around it.

    Now when I see cars doing similar I think that they might be in a similar situation. But more often than not they're just being dumb.


  • #229
    Chuchote
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Reminds me of the time I was out for a run and running on a footpath against traffic, rush hour. From way back I see a Micra mount the footpath and straddle the cycle lane/footpath in order to skip the queuing traffic. Who's this f'ing eejit I was thinking. As it got closer there was a woman, very obviously in labour pain, in the passenger seat.

    And a few years ago I was rushing my concussed daughter, who was vomiting, to Temple Street one Saturday afternoon. I was using the bus lanes and there was no end to the people who tried to block me off by moving over and straddling the lanes, including a private coach which purposely slowed down to hold me up, who then got very angry when I drove around it.

    Now when I see cars doing similar I think that they might be in a similar situation. But more often than not they're just being dumb.

    Yeah, a few years ago I was rushing a friend home fast after his portable oxygen tank ran out and was blocked on the Triangle in Ranelagh by a van. He was dying of a particularly horrible and incurable lung disease. I hopped out and knocked on the window. The van driver ignored me. I knocked harder, and he rolled the window down with a put-upon sigh. I said "I'm sorry, but my friend's oxygen has run out, and - "

    I didn't get any further - the driver stood on his accelerator and disappeared at speed. Sometimes people can be very decent.


  • #230
    Fian
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Reminds me of the time I was out for a run and running on a footpath against traffic, rush hour. From way back I see a Micra mount the footpath and straddle the cycle lane/footpath in order to skip the queuing traffic. Who's this f'ing eejit I was thinking. As it got closer there was a woman, very obviously in labour pain, in the passenger seat.

    I got pulled by a garda in the bus lane on the stillorgan dual carriageway while driving my wife into holles street for our third I think. He pulled the car in front of me as well. The traffic on the main lanes did not feel like co-operating as i overtook the first car he had pulled. put down passenger window and explained to the Garda. He told me he would give me an escort the rest of the way. I told him it was fine there was a bus lane more or less the whole way in and I continued on. Weeks later I suddenly realised that the driver he had stopped must have been praying that I take up his offer.


  • #231
    magicbastarder
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    i've heard a couple of stories of gardai on motorbikes giving an escort in for people in that situation; as much out of goodwill as a proper expectation of how seriously 'take it easy' warning will be taken.


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  • #232
    Chuchote
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    i've heard a couple of stories of gardai on motorbikes giving an escort in for people in that situation; as much out of goodwill as a proper expectation of how seriously 'take it easy' warning will be taken.

    No it's not. It's terror for fear they'd have to deliver the babby.


  • #233
    ted1
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    Had an incident on the N 11 today , a Guard pulled over a 161 black Land Rover today , but the muppet pulled up on the bike Lane cutting off myself and a female cyclist. We both looked at the Garda and give him a what the Fuc? Look.

    In fairness the first words out if the Gardas mouth was to tip the driver a new one for stopping in the bike lane as oppose to the bus lane and fir not using mirrors, I get the feeling that his driving while using the mobile was upgraded to dangerous driving


  • #234
    NiallBoo
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    Moflojo wrote: »
    There are studies that show drivers behave more cautiously when not wearing a seatbelt because they're more aware of the danger.
    It's a phenomenon that occurs with all safety equipment. Perception of safety increases our willingness to take risks.

    We're great we are.


  • #235
    Chuchote
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    NiallBoo wrote: »
    It's a phenomenon that occurs with all safety equipment. Perception of safety increases our willingness to take risks.

    We're great we are.

    And to give risks, as in drivers not giving as much room to cyclists who have helmets on.


  • #236
    NiallBoo
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    Chuchote wrote: »
    And to give risks, as in drivers not giving as much room to cyclists who have helmets on.
    Yup, same thing happening, it alters our unconscious appraisal of risk.

    It's very much an instinctive thing.


  • #237
    magicbastarder
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    so we need to make cycling as risky as possible, to make people behave as safely as possible.


  • #238
    Chuchote
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    magicbastarder wrote: »
    so we need to make cycling as risky as possible, to make people behave as safely as possible.

    Or perhaps make it risky to cars? Ben-Hur spiked wheels?


  • #239
    prinzeugen
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    2RockMountain wrote: »
    If it saves one life...

    Yes.. Burst the tires of a car carrying kids..

    Very mature..


  • #240
    05eaftqbrs9jlh
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    Moflojo wrote:
    TheJournal.ie has been one of the few sensible & balanced media outlets reporting on cycling issues in the recent past and should be commended for it. While most news sites ran with "Car Ban proposed on the Quays!" last week, The Journal framed the story in a positive light, focusing on how a proposed route for the Liffey cycleway had been agreed.
    Didn't I see an Una Mullaly contribution about someone who nearly hit her on a footpath? God she's a cretin.


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  • #241
    prinzeugen
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    NiallBoo wrote: »
    It's a phenomenon that occurs with all safety equipment. Perception of safety increases our willingness to take risks.

    We're great we are.

    That's rubbish. As someone that uses pesticides & chainsaws, we were taught not to take risks and pretend we are doing jobs without PPE.

    You take extra care for your own safety that way.

    And if you are safe, the public is safe.


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