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UK Votes to leave EU

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  • #9692
    FA Hayek
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭FA Hayek


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    No armed force in northern Ireland acted in a way which protected innocent life.

    You obviously do not know your history. The British Army when initially deployed by Westminster on the streets of N.I were welcomed in with open arms by the Catholic/Nationalist population as protection against Loyalist gangs and the N.I police force.

    I would go further, without them, N.I would have defended into a Balkans like civil war with large scale ethnic cleansing genocide as the conflict would have spiralled out of control.

    Not to say their record is without blemish but people choose to forget facts.


  • #9693
    FA Hayek
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭FA Hayek


    Deleted User wrote: »
    That's what your crowd call "collateral damage" when they do it, if I recall correctly. It doesn't seem to bother British jingoists then so spare us the feigned moral outrage when non-British forces do it.

    Ah, so the bombs in warrington were primarily targeting British security forces? Haha... lol


  • #9694
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    FA Hayek wrote: »
    I would go further, without them, N.I would have defended into a Balkans like civil war with large scale ethnic cleansing genocide as the conflict would have spiralled out of control.

    Bless your cotton socks. Educate yourself a little and read up on the 'Battle at Springmartin' here. One thing stopped ethnic cleansing akin to what happened in Bombay Street.

    Guns. Guns in the hands of Republicans.


  • #9695
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    First Up wrote: »
    But the price is decided by others

    But you have control. The price is negotiated.

    And in your control is the choice for you to accept or reject it. Control is when we have every justification to accept, and we don't. That's control First Up. That is control.


  • #9696
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    It was guns in the hands of Republicans which led to ethnic cleansing in some areas over the course of the troubles eg some border areas.

    The security forces arrested and filled the courts and jails with people from both sides in N.I., and attacks from both sides were not unknown.
    FA Hayek wrote: »
    without them, N.I would have defended into a Balkans like civil war with large scale ethnic cleansing genocide as the conflict would have spiralled out of control.
    Correct.
    catbear wrote: »
    Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose....

    Correct, we know all about that having paid such a high price, in terms of emigration, abuse etc for most of the 20th century.


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  • #9697
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    maryishere wrote: »
    It was guns in the hands of Republicans which led to ethnic cleansing in some areas over the course of the troubles eg some border areas.

    Oh Mary, trying to distort history and flip reality again. You know you're only going to give my statement more weight as a truth when you do this?

    Thanks.


  • #9698
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    give your statement more weight? lol. If you look at Republicans use of guns and semtex in the decades of the troubles, you will see they were used offensively , not defensively, in practically all actions in which they were used.
    FA Hayek wrote: »
    Ah, so the bombs in warrington were primarily targeting British security forces? Haha... lol

    As admitted by a Republican poster on this very thread, they were designed to spread terror. 98.7% of the bombs / explosions in the troubles were by Republicans, including Enniskillen, Bloody Friday shops, Keady, Le Mons restaurant, numerous hotels and businesses etc....killing and injuring thousands of civilians. The security forces tried to stop as many as possible but were sometimes the targets themselves.


  • #9699
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,929 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Oh Mary, trying to distort history and flip reality again. You know you're only going to give my statement more weight as a truth when you do this?

    Thanks.

    I live on the border, we are not missing any ethnics, just checked. ;)


  • #9700
    prinzeugen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    CMOTDibbler wrote: »

    Strangely, one of the beneficiaries here will be the German multiples like Aldi and Lidl who aren't dependant on distributors in the UK and therefore price fluctuations to counteract the currency deficit.

    Really? Sure they buy local don't they, according to the adverts, so they will take a hit also.

    Unless its all bull****.


  • #9701
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    I live on the border, we are not missing any ethnics, just checked. ;)
    because you do not find they are missing now does not mean many people were not killed or intimidated out in the seventies and eighties etc;)


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  • #9702
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,929 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    maryishere wrote: »
    because you do not find they are missing now does not mean many people were not killed or intimidated out in the seventies and eighties etc;)

    It's bedtime mary, school in the morning.


  • #9703
    130Kph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 625 ✭✭✭130Kph


    maryishere wrote: »
    It was guns in the hands of Republicans .....

    Hull……

    A whole city will be flagellated & brought to it’s knees by Nigel Farrage’s Brexit pipe dreams…I demand an answer Mary.


  • #9704
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    It's bedtime mary, school in the morning.
    Tell your teacher to teach you a little bit of truth about Irish history, you have a lot to learn. ;)
    Off to bed with you now.


  • #9705
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    maryishere wrote: »
    because you do not find they are missing now does not mean many people were not killed or intimidated out in the seventies and eighties etc;)

    Catholic civilians were the most terrorised group in the north during the troubles and their killers were Protestant murder-gangs who were essentially an extension of the British state.


  • #9706
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    Actually statistically it was the security forces who were the most terrorised group , as a higher percentage of them were killed / injured than any of the civilian groups.

    To keep things in perspective though, there were more people killed on the roads of N. Ireland in road traffic accidents in all years of the troubles except for a few in the early seventies.

    Republicans like the PIRA, INLA killed and injured more people than the loyalist gangs too. I condemn both, pity you are so biased you only condemn the para-militaries on one side.


  • #9707
    130Kph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 625 ✭✭✭130Kph


    I give up :D


  • #9708
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    maryishere wrote: »
    Actually statistically it was the security forces who were the most terrorised group , as a higher percentage of them were killed / injured than any of the civilian groups.

    They were belligerents, killers, gun carriers, and colluders with Protestant murder-gangs.


  • #9709
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    They were gun carriers, but that was for their own defence.
    Out of the over 100,000 members of the security forces who served in N. Ireland during the decades of the troubles, the vast majority were not killers or colluders: otherwise the death toll would have been much higher than it was. Do not forget there were more people killed on the roads of N. Ireland in road traffic accidents in all years of the troubles except for a few in the early seventies.
    Sure there were some bad apples, same as there was in the Gardai for example, as proven in the Smithwick tribunal here in the Republic.


  • #9710
    GreenFolder2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭GreenFolder2


    See: Brexit fecking up NI already!


  • #9711
    maryishere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    Actually friends I have up there are saying business is thriving since the Brexit referendum. I'd say some of the shops and hotels south of the border are feeling a reduction in business all right.


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  • #9712
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Now I know a person called Mary
    Her views are quite contrary
    She's a unionist sym-pa-thizer
    Plays marching tunes on her syn-the-sizer

    She's got a big ol' Union Jack
    On a flagpole out the back
    How can I say it, let me explain
    Me and Mary, we're just not the same.


  • #9713
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    maryishere wrote: »
    Out of the over 100,000 members of the security forces who served in N. Ireland during the decades of the troubles, the vast majority were not killers or colluders: otherwise the death toll would have been much higher than it was.

    So, just a minority were killers and colluders, accounting for the actual death toll, small compared to if they all were killers and colluders. Fair enough, so.


  • #9714
    prinzeugen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Now I know a person called Mary
    Her views are quite contrary
    She's a unionist sym-pa-thizer
    Plays marching tunes on her syn-the-sizer

    She's got a big ol' Union Jack
    On a flagpole out the back
    How can I say it, let me explain
    Me and Mary, we're just not the same.

    Vile.


  • #9715
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    Vile.

    I'm sorry that you're easily offended. :rolleyes:


  • #9716
    prinzeugen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    I'm sorry that you're easily offended. :rolleyes:

    Can't come up with anything other than personal insults for folk that don't agree with you.

    Grow up.


  • #9717
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    Can't come up with anything other than personal insults for folk that don't agree with you.

    Where was the insult?
    Grow up.

    Don't be so sensitive, it's After Hours not North Korea.


  • #9718
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,929 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Brexit having an effect already. :)

    http://www.herald.ie/news/customs-officials-seize-heating-oil-and-van-from-close-ally-of-minister-35135015.html


  • #9719
    CMOTDibbler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    Really? Sure they buy local don't they, according to the adverts, so they will take a hit also.

    Unless its all bull****.
    Buying local produce would be exchange rate neutral. I'm talking about the packaged goods and other items that are imported from the EU.

    And it's not bullsh1t. I know farmers who supply them.


  • #9720
    First Up
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    maryishere wrote: »
    lol. We will see. The eu lose a net contributor, historically its second biggest.
    I bet the Germans can't wait. As said before, it does beg the question, who will make up the short fall in eu funding when the UK leaves, or will budgets be cut?

    Here's your answer.

    UK looks at paying billions into EU budget after Brexit
    Plan would let finance sector keep single-market access
    Pound fall ‘shock absorber’ for UK economy – BoE’s Broadbent
    Clegg warns ‘hard Brexit’ will lead to 22% EU food tariffs
    Keir Starmer: the Brexit opponent making Labour heard on Europe

    https://www.ft.com/


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  • #9721
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Brexit having an effect already. :)

    http://www.herald.ie/news/customs-officials-seize-heating-oil-and-van-from-close-ally-of-minister-35135015.html

    that was tongue in cheek, right?


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