SFC Final - Dublin v Mayo - Read Mod Note in post #1 & #1393

Menoetius · 14-09-2016 03:55PM

ultrapercy wrote: »

But Dublin get home advantage against ALL oposition ALWAYS their isn't any system that recognises fairness.

Not a fan of the league?

Blud · 14-09-2016 03:57PM

kilns wrote: »

So if you had a choice between having Andy Moran or Bernard Brogan playing for you on Sunday, if you are really honest you know who you would pick.

If had the chance to pick Mannion and Paddy Andrews again they would be in the Mayo team in a heartbeat

Mayo do have some quality players who would be welcome into the Dublin team

Earlier in the thread (e.g. Post 433) you insist on picking teams based on form. And now you want Brogan ahead of Moran? At least show some consistency!

Neither Mannion nor Andrews improves the team I named above.

Blud · 14-09-2016 03:58PM

Menoetius wrote: »

As a Dublin fans I can confirm that some of us do and some of us don't.

Unless you are referring only to the ones who do as "Dublin fans"

I have no interest in anything other than generalising ye all into one homogenous group - easier to think of ye like that for the next few days!

Menoetius · 14-09-2016 04:01PM

Blud wrote: »

I have no interest in anything other than generalising ye all into one homogenous group - easier to think of ye like that for the next few days!

Fair point

Blud · 14-09-2016 04:02PM

Past30Now wrote: »

McCarthy over Boyle at wing back every day

Two good midfielders picked, but Fenton gets in ahead of both.

Two from Brogan, Macker and Andrews over DOC and Andy Moran. Andrews probably won't start, but if he was a Mayo Man he'd be the second forward (after AOS) on your team sheet.

McCarthy is a great player, but again, I don't think you can argue that he's a significant improvement over Boyle.

This is wholly Mayo biased, but I'm asking what players would be a significant improvement over what we have, and I don't think McCarthy is one of them because we're already strong in the half back line.

Ditto Fenton. Good midfielder, but wouldn't add anything we don't already have.

Could maybe make a case for KMc alright, but I'm not sure whose place he'd take in the team I named. I'd have DOC and COC ahead of him, AOS for sure, he may take Moran's place?

No way Brogan in 2016 or Andrews makes a combined Mayo/Dublin team.

kilns · 14-09-2016 04:04PM

Blud wrote: »

kilns wrote: »

So if you had a choice between having Andy Moran or Bernard Brogan playing for you on Sunday, if you are really honest you know who you would pick.

If had the chance to pick Mannion and Paddy Andrews again they would be in the Mayo team in a heartbeat

Mayo do have some quality players who would be welcome into the Dublin team

Earlier in the thread (e.g. Post 433) you insist on picking teams based on form. And now you want Brogan ahead of Moran? At least show some consistency!

Neither Mannion nor Andrews improves the team I named above.

Has Morans form been that amazing? Has he been scoring loads? Has he been amazing? not really

The red and green tint in those glasses is blinding you to the fact that Mannion and Andrews would not improve Mayo. Just as Higgins and Keegan would improve Dublin currently

kilns · 14-09-2016 04:06PM

Blud wrote: »

Past30Now wrote: »

McCarthy over Boyle at wing back every day

Two good midfielders picked, but Fenton gets in ahead of both.

Two from Brogan, Macker and Andrews over DOC and Andy Moran. Andrews probably won't start, but if he was a Mayo Man he'd be the second forward (after AOS) on your team sheet.

McCarthy is a great player, but again, I don't think you can argue that he's a significant improvement over Boyle.

This is wholly Mayo biased, but I'm asking what players would be a significant improvement over what we have, and I don't think McCarthy is one of them because we're already strong in the half back line.

Ditto Fenton. Good midfielder, but wouldn't add anything we don't already have.

Could maybe make a case for KMc alright, but I'm not sure whose place he'd take in the team I named. I'd have DOC and COC ahead of him, AOS for sure, he may take Moran's place?

No way Brogan in 2016 or Andrews makes a combined Mayo/Dublin team.

So you honestly believe COC this year is better than Kev Mc Men? really? really?

Dyr · 14-09-2016 04:08PM

kilns wrote: »

Has Morans form been that amazing? Has he been scoring loads? Has he been amazing? not really

The red and green tint in those glasses is blinding you to the fact that Mannion and Andrews would not improve Mayo. Just as Higgins and Keegan would improve Dublin currently

I'd take Keegan in the half back line over Small. That's really all I'd change

Blud · 14-09-2016 04:12PM

kilns wrote: »

Has Morans form been that amazing? Has he been scoring loads? Has he been amazing? not really

The red and green tint in those glasses is blinding you to the fact that Mannion and Andrews would not improve Mayo. Just as Higgins and Keegan would improve Dublin currently

OK. I'm going back to work. You haven't understood a word of what I've posted, so I'm going to just stop discussing this with you.

Slow day in Dublin.

kilns · 14-09-2016 04:14PM

Blud wrote: »

kilns wrote: »

Has Morans form been that amazing? Has he been scoring loads? Has he been amazing? not really

The red and green tint in those glasses is blinding you to the fact that Mannion and Andrews would not improve Mayo. Just as Higgins and Keegan would improve Dublin currently

OK. I'm going back to work. You haven't understood a word of what I've posted, so I'm going to just stop discussing this with you.

Slow day in Dublin.

Maybe you better, thinking about this match seems to have made you quite irrational

Past30Now · 14-09-2016 04:16PM

kilns wrote: »

So you honestly believe COC this year is better than Kev Mc Men? really? really?

In fairness if you're picking a Mayo/Dublin 15, it's COC vs Deano for the free taking role. After that AOS, Connolly and Kilkenny are shoe-ins. Macker, on the form he's currently showing. After that it's one from Brogan, Andrews, DOC or Moran. I'd be picking Brogan, with Andrews still ahead of Moran and DOC.

kilns · 14-09-2016 04:20PM

Agreed, he compared Mac with COC however.

In previous posts we have outlined how much better Rock has been than COC this year so that one is not an argument anymore

The way Dublin play I would pick DOC instead of AOS however.

The Talking Bread · 14-09-2016 04:23PM

So on another note......what's the thoughts on COC and Rock? ......

Past30Now · 14-09-2016 04:25PM

Blud wrote: »

McCarthy is a great player, but again, I don't think you can argue that he's a significant improvement over Boyle.

I'd have to make that argument. Boyle's a fine player, but McCarthy is a Rolls Royce (as is Keegan) of a player who would get picked in any county.

Cluxton
Higgins
Cooper
McMahon
Keegan
O'Sullivan
McCarthy
Fenton
Parsons
Connolly
AOS
Kilkenny
Brogan
Macker
COC (barely - feeling magnanimous)

Arse Biscuits · 14-09-2016 04:27PM

Blud wrote: »

Ditto Fenton. Good midfielder, but wouldn't add anything we don't already have.

Apart from his vision, two good feet and he can last 70 mins.

But you're right SOS has all that ðŸ˜„

westsidestory · 14-09-2016 04:37PM

Menoetius wrote: »

Hoganstand is two doors up to the left

Took you for more a Hill 16 chap

wp_rathead · 14-09-2016 04:43PM

ultrapercy wrote: »

You should paint a few homeless heroine addicts blue and.... blue for the laugh. Say stuff like " parnell park ?? Where da ****s dat?" and "I'm not going to a league match the scouse derby's on the box"

ha. ha. it is funny cause you're comparing livestock to humans suffering from addiction :rolleyes:

Fr Tod Umptious · 14-09-2016 05:06PM

Kalyke wrote: »

Just watched a repeat of All Ireland Day (2015) on RTE 1 last night. While Coldrick had an OK day, what struck me was that he was on first name terms with ALL of the Dublin team. He knew a few of the Kerry lads. This had to have given a psychological disadvantage to Kerry.

On Radio Kerry last Saturday they had an interview with Padraig O’ Sullivan, inter county referee, he reffed Dublin v Fermanagh last year, not sure what this year

Anyway the obvious question of Gough reffing a Dublin v Kerry game came up, and O’ Sullivan obviously towed the party line and said that the best ref for a certain game is selected.

The presenter asked him an odd question , he asked “Should Mayo have asked for a neutral ref “

Now I have no idea what the question was about nor did I get a chance to hear the reply, but I was wondering “what exactly is not neutral about Conor Lane?”

seligehgit · 14-09-2016 05:09PM

kilns wrote: »

Has Morans form been that amazing? Has he been scoring loads? Has he been amazing? not really

The red and green tint in those glasses is blinding you to the fact that Mannion and Andrews would not improve Mayo. Just as Higgins and Keegan would improve Dublin currently

He's been exceptionally good and yes I would take Paddy Andrews in a heart beat.

This tit for tat stuff is nonsensical.:D

My combined team

Clarke
Cooper
McMahon
Higgins
McCarthy
O Sullivan
Keegan
Fenton
McAuley
D. O Connor
A. O Shea
McManamon
Andrews
Connolly
Brogan

Menoetius · 14-09-2016 06:13PM

westsidestory wrote: »

Took you for more a Hill 16 chap

:D

Peist2007 · 14-09-2016 06:30PM

kilns wrote: »

Maybe you better, thinking about this match seems to have made you quite irrational

Nope he's right. The points he's making aren't difficult to comprehend. You seem to be choosing not to do so.

The Talking Bread · 14-09-2016 06:45PM

Peist2007 wrote: »

Nope he's right. The points he's making aren't difficult to comprehend. You seem to be choosing not to do so.

indeed, this is the guy who reckons James McCarthy would have been a contender for POTY based on two run outs against Laois and Meath and an error ridden sub standard performance against Kerry in his only other game! And then he makes that remark about "irrational"!

Peist2007 · 14-09-2016 06:52PM

ultrapercy wrote: »

But Dublin get home advantage against ALL oposition ALWAYS their isn't any system that recognises fairness.

That seems to be an issue that no one is allowed talk about or, at the very least, it is met with howls of derision. Always amusing to observe, as they say the truth hurts

Peist2007 · 14-09-2016 06:52PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

indeed, this is the guy who reckons James McCarthy would have been a contender for POTY based on two run outs against Laois and Meath and an error ridden sub standard performance against Kerry in his only other game! And then he makes that remark about "irrational"!

McCarthy has a great engine and is a very good player but anything beyond that is a no. I don't like his technique either, more an athlete than a natural footballer.

The Talking Bread · 14-09-2016 06:54PM

Peist2007 wrote: »

That seems to be an issue that no one is allowed talk about or, at the very least, it is met with howls of derision. Always amusing to observe, as they say the truth hurts

They have the match against Laois now to "completely" refute this point though!!

TITANIUM. · 14-09-2016 07:58PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Kalyke wrote: »

Just watched a repeat of All Ireland Day (2015) on RTE 1 last night. While Coldrick had an OK day, what struck me was that he was on first name terms with ALL of the Dublin team. He knew a few of the Kerry lads. This had to have given a psychological disadvantage to Kerry.

On Radio Kerry last Saturday they had an interview with Padraig O Sullivan, inter county referee, he reffed Dublin v Fermanagh last year, not sure what this year

Anyway the obvious question of Gough reffing a Dublin v Kerry game came up, and O Sullivan obviously towed the party line and said that the best ref for a certain game is selected.

The presenter asked him an odd question , he asked Should Mayo have asked for a neutral ref

Now I have no idea what the question was about nor did I get a chance to hear the reply, but I was wondering what exactly is not neutral about Conor Lane?

Ah there was talk down here before the semi that a leinster ref would not be neutral. Ah then after the match talk about the phantom 45 that he awarded by over ruling his umpire, after remonstrations from K McManamon. Who happens to coach the kids in the school where Gough teaches.
People down here were not very happy with him anyway.

kilns · 14-09-2016 09:54PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Peist2007 wrote: »

Nope he's right. The points he's making aren't difficult to comprehend. You seem to be choosing not to do so.

indeed, this is the guy who reckons James McCarthy would have been a contender for POTY based on two run outs against Laois and Meath and an error ridden sub standard performance against Kerry in his only other game! And then he makes that remark about "irrational"!

McCarthy was arguable Dublins best player in the games he played up until he got injured and if you play for the best team in Ireland and you are performing the best then yes you are entitled to be considered for POTY. However if you read carefully i said he lost momentum with his injury but dont let that ruin your statement but sure he is only an athlete with 3 All Irelands anyway, not much use, wouldnt be good enough for a Mayo team who has won all before them...

The Talking Bread · 14-09-2016 10:24PM

kilns wrote: »

McCarthy was arguable Dublins best player in the games he played up until he got injured and if you play for the best team in Ireland and you are performing the best then yes you are entitled to be considered for POTY. However if you read carefully i said he lost momentum with his injury but dont let that ruin your statement but sure he is only an athlete with 3 All Irelands anyway, not much use, wouldnt be good enough for a Mayo team who has won all before them...

I read your statement completely carefully. It was hardly the most detailed of statements. What effectively you said was he gathered great momentum in two matches that Dublin were never going to lose. I dont think any pundit would read a massive lot into a leinster quater final and semi final. He was very quiet against Meath also, didnt notice anything outstanding from him. So he was not bringing huge momentum into the Leinster final, (which we know he missed) he was just playing his usual diligent talented manner.

My point is you are effectively forecasting what he would have done based on a couple of walkovers in Leinster, if you read my point I emphasise that.

He is an excellent player but there is no reason to say he would have been in contention for POTY if he hadn't got injured based on those two games.

And what in gods name is that part of your post about??? I never said anything negative about the player

themandan6611 · 14-09-2016 11:22PM

my god, this thread is going to be a clusterf~ck come HT on sunday, never mind full time

That_Guy · 15-09-2016 01:05AM

Making up a Mayo/Dublin combo team... Come on lads, have a word. It's such a pointless discussion/argument.

That and it's bloody tedious to read through pages of shíte.

Can't we all agree that Dublin are great?

SFC Final - Dublin v Mayo - *Read Mod Note in post #1 & #1393*

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SFC Final - Dublin v Mayo - Read Mod Note in post #1 & #1393