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Upcoming DC Extended Universe (DCEU) Movies

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Ben Gadot


    I've only seen Joe in True Blood so can't really judge him. I can't help but feel however that this is fancasting and another case of WB trying to pay lip service.

    In other news, it looks like Billy Crudup will join The Flash as
    Henry Allen
    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Ben Gadot wrote: »
    I've only seen Joe in True Blood so can't really judge him. I can't help but feel however that this is fancasting and another case of WB trying to pay lip service.

    I like him and I think he's a good chance of doing well but I can't disagree with you on this.
    Ben Gadot wrote: »
    In other news, it looks like Billy Crudup will join The Flash as
    Henry Allen
    .

    I'd watch Crudup do any role so this is cool.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Ben Gadot wrote:
    I've only seen Joe in True Blood so can't really judge him. I can't help but feel however that this is fancasting and another case of WB trying to pay lip service.

    You might remember him as Flash Thompson is the Raimi's original Spider-Man. Not much of an acting role to judge him on but a bit of trivia nonetheless. I think he's good but I don't know how he'll fair against Affleck, this is his first big movie break.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    He is also a total Fanboy if you check out his chats on The Nerdist Podcast they are well worth a listen he also does the best Macho Man Randy Savage impersonation.

    A really good casting I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Any link?


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_




  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Another first look, again taken from Zack Snyder's Twitter.

    https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/777224232023580672/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_




  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    And The Flash movie has lost it's director over "creative differences"

    http://comicbook.com/2016/10/31/the-flash-movie-loses-director-rick-famuyima/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    And The Flash movie has lost it's director over "creative differences"

    http://comicbook.com/2016/10/31/the-flash-movie-loses-director-rick-famuyima/

    Yikes, that makes two directors who've left that film due to creative differences. Not a good omen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Yikes, that makes two directors who've left that film due to creative differences. Not a good omen.

    So I guess DC isn't allowing creative freedom of the directors in their movie universe after all... like so many were banging on about when the DCMU had just one movie released.

    Ultimately it's a pity though, the comic movies need more shots up the arm like Deadpool. Marvel, while enjoyable, has very little flair left. Sure, it's stories/characters throw up some cool visuals, great action and a pleasant narrative with crossovers and a big bad but it's all same same at this point. DC had a chance to do something different, to stand apart from Marvel, but they stumbled at the first hurdle, faceplanted at the second and it's 'quirky' movie wasn't the saviour they hoped for... so they are settling to be a darker, angst-riddled, slow motion version of the MCU. Surprise surprise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Ben Gadot


    Warner Brothers began to stifle creativity a long time ago, all they've done here is prove that they're still fcukwits.

    It's even more brilliant given that they already allowed the director to put his stamp on the film by casting an actor he's worked with before. I just hope the bloke is good enough to stand on his own!

    WB being more hands on like Marvel isn't necessarily a bad thing but there's an air of confidence in the latter doing it. Everything from Rhodey/Hulk recast to sacking Edgar Wright, it's worked out fine.

    WB just leave a sea of wreckage in their wake everytime they do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Agree with you both.
    Ben Gadot wrote: »
    It's even more brilliant given that they already allowed the director to put his stamp on the film by casting an actor he's worked with before. I just hope the bloke is good enough to stand on his own!

    I can't for the life of me think of who you're talking of...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Ben Gadot


    Sorry not a bloke, a woman, Kiersey Clemons. She was in Dope which was directed by your man who dropped out of directing this. She's playing Iris West.

    I haven't seen her in anything but it looks like she has okish credits anyway, hopefully she'll be fine.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Ben Gadot wrote: »
    Warner Brothers began to stifle creativity a long time ago, all they've done here is prove that they're still fcukwits.

    It's even more brilliant given that they already allowed the director to put his stamp on the film by casting an actor he's worked with before. I just hope the bloke is good enough to stand on his own!

    WB being more hands on like Marvel isn't necessarily a bad thing but there's an air of confidence in the latter doing it. Everything from Rhodey/Hulk recast to sacking Edgar Wright, it's worked out fine.

    WB just leave a sea of wreckage in their wake everytime they do it.

    I really want to see what the new regime can do though. Maybe we need to give them time.

    Even saying that though I feel like I'm giving Warner (as opposed to Affleck/ Johns) a free pass they don't deserve.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    I really want to see what the new regime can do though. Maybe we need to give them time.

    Even saying that though I feel like I'm giving Warner (as opposed to Affleck/ Johns) a free pass they don't deserve.

    Who's the new regime?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Bacchus wrote: »
    Who's the new regime?

    Geoff Johns as the man in charge and Ben Affleck as the de facto second (given that he's director and exec producer of the next Batman movie, which is their most viable property).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Ben Gadot


    I think Johns has a bigger task on his plate than Feige, as Marvel did everything in house and I doubt Feige has many more above him to answer to creatively.

    Johns has to deal with the juggernaut that is WB and it's always going to be a massive roadblock for him. It'd be different if WB just set up a DC sub branch, which would be essentially the equivalent of the Marvel Studios.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Feige has also proved himself with 14 successful movies (some less so but still) and the fact he was able to oust Perlmutter from power over the films shows how much faith Disney has in him.

    Johns has proved himself in comics (Rebirth being such a recent success is a huge win for him) and as a competent enough TV writer but they'd be right to keep a watchful eye over his first few films. That said, having someone in creative control who knows and understands the characters will be a brand new thing for WB so they might be so overwhelmed by his knowledge that they just let him go at it!


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Feige has also proved himself with 14 successful movies (some less so but still) and the fact he was able to oust Perlmutter from power over the films shows how much faith Disney has in him.

    Johns has proved himself in comics (Rebirth being such a recent success is a huge win for him) and as a competent enough TV writer but they'd be right to keep a watchful eye over his first few films. That said, having someone in creative control who knows and understands the characters will be a brand new thing for WB so they might be so overwhelmed by his knowledge that they just let him go at it!

    I'm of the opinion that Affleck (who has proven to make amazing films repeatedly with creative control) might provide the strengths where Johns lacks (very few people understand why superheroes work the way he does, thus the success of the rebirth series, but he's not been so successful on the big screen). But they could totally hate each other so you don't really know.

    Anyway seeing as Warner has been bought by AT&T there is another, even greater layer of grey suit for them to balance now. It's an unenviable task I'd say but I really, really want them to succeed!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    I'm not a big fan of Johns tbh. I've read a few things by him that I've liked a lot but mostly, I find his books boring and samey. That said, I thought DC Universe Rebirth was phenomenal and it's obviously done more than it promised, line-wide so I gotta give him props for that. I also really enjoyed all of his Smallville episodes a lot.

    I have huge faith in Affleck though. A great director, a passionate comic book fan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Harley Quinn-Birds of Prey Movie’s Screenwriter Revealed
    Screenwriter Christina Hodson is scripting the Harley Quinn/Birds of Prey spinoff for Warner Bros. and DC Films, TheWrap has learned exclusively.

    The film is not a Quinn solo movie, but rather would feature multiple female superheroes — and possibly villains — in the DC Comics universe.

    Margot Robbie, last seen as the Harley Quinn in “Suicide Squad,” is attached to reprise her role as Quinn and is also producing the untitled project.

    http://www.thewrap.com/harley-quinn-birds-of-prey-christina-hodson/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Willem Dafoe joins the cast of Aquaman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,563 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    Willem Dafoe joins the cast of Aquaman.

    Green goblin crossover?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,563 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    Or is he playing that character from the life aquatic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Willem Dafoe joins the cast of Aquaman.

    Already confirmed for Justice League playing Nuidis Vulko (primarily a character from Aquaman), so it's just a natural progression from there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Here's some terrible news....

    David Ayer To Direct Female Led GOTHAM CITY SIRENS Movie Starring Margot Robbie

    https://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/david-ayer-to-direct-female-led-gotham-city-sirens-movie-starring-a147497

    Followed by some more terrible news....

    SUICIDE SQUAD Sequel Being Developed Alongside A DEADSHOT Solo Movie

    https://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/suicide-squad-sequel-being-developed-alongside-a-deadshot-solo-a147500

    Links & description stolen from film forum..!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Ben Gadot


    Bad news in a way but hardly surprising. Ayer played the company game to perfection while also making money.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Zack Synder and David Ayer, the 2 pillars of DCs movie universe. Lord help us but 2016 really has been one terrible year altogether no matter where you turn.

    David Ayer directing an all female (main) cast though. Ha. I wonder if he'll get his tips for strong female characters from Frank Miller :rolleyes:

    On a partially unrelated note, I did start watching Supergirl and while its themes are utterly on-the-nose, it's so much fun! Like The Flash really, albeit before Barry started ruining everything :) The difference between TV DC and Movie DC is so stark is staggering that these properties come from the same origin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Ben Gadot wrote: »
    Bad news in a way but hardly surprising. Ayer played the company game to perfection while also making money.

    True enough. People say that eventually everyone will get sick of superhero movies - I think the reality is that DC will destroy it all with lack of focus and terrible directors...
    pixelburp wrote: »
    Zack Synder and David Ayer, the 2 pillars of DCs movie universe. Lord help us but 2016 really has been one terrible year altogether no matter where you turn.

    David Ayer directing an all female (main) cast though. Ha. I wonder if he'll get his tips for strong female characters from Frank Miller

    I actually shudder to think. It's gotten to the point where I think I'll only watch the core hero films...
    pixelburp wrote: »
    On a partially unrelated note, I did start watching Supergirl and while its themes are utterly on-the-nose, it's so much fun! Like The Flash really, albeit before Barry started ruining everything :) The difference between TV DC and Movie DC is so stark is staggering that these properties come from the same origin.

    Yes!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Megan Fox rumoured to be play Ivy in Gotham City Sirens.

    http://www.slashfilm.com/megan-fox-poison-ivy/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Ben Gadot


    Ah jesus. If Margot really is one of the producers I can only hope she is mindful of her own casting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Ben Gadot wrote: »
    Ah jesus. If Margot really is one of the producers I can only hope she is mindful of her own casting.

    I've a feeling if the Megan Fox rumour is indeed true, she'd probably be shoehorned in by the studio, add another "big name actress" to the mix, Warner/DC after all do love a bit of a meddle..


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Lithium93_ wrote:
    I've a feeling if the Megan Fox rumour is indeed true, she'd probably be shoehorned in by the studio, add another "big name actress" to the mix, Warner/DC after all do love a bit of a meddle..


    Is Megan Fox still a "big name"?


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    Is Megan Fox still a "big name"?

    That all depends on a person, but I wouldn't consider her a "big name"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Recognisable without being overly expensive or overshadowing Margot Robbie. Perfect cocktail for a crappy film.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Ben Gadot


    Looking at the actual info at hand it looks like Fox put herself forward for the role so in that context....I ain't worried.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    If Megan Fox being cast was the worst thing about this movie, I'd be delighted tbh. As it stands though, David Ayer in the director's chair looks tough to beat as the worst thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,209 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    If Megan Fox being cast was the worst thing about this movie, I'd be delighted tbh. As it stands though, David Ayer in the director's chair looks tough to beat as the worst thing.

    If Suicide Squad is anything to go by, Poison Ivy will point to a flower, say "I made that" and then never use her powers again for the rest of the film.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Penn wrote: »
    If Suicide Squad is anything to go by, Poison Ivy will point to a flower, say "I made that" and then never use her powers again for the rest of the film.

    If double-thanking were possible...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Affleck considering of pulling out as director of the Batman solo film?
    Affleck was asked about directing the DC superhero project, and answered: ‘That’s the idea. But it’s not a set thing and there’s no script. If it doesn’t come together in a way I think is really great, I’m not going to do it.’

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jan/01/ben-affleck-my-dreams-have-true-come-at-a-price


    If that happens I really don't hold out any hope for the DCEU if I'm being honest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    They start shooting in the Spring, and they still haven't got a script sorted, what are they at..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Ben Gadot


    Only thing I can take from that is that there's still a power struggle going on. From Affleck to go from stating his affinity for the character from an early age to saying he's doing it for his kid is just too on the nose.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    They start shooting in the Spring, and they still haven't got a script sorted, what are they at..

    Given a competent script didn't prevent suicide squad making a sizable profit, I really think we on the outside are more worried about the logistics than DC probably are. It seems like chaos, but so far it has been profitable chaos...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Ben Gadot wrote: »
    Only thing I can take from that is that there's still a power struggle going on. From Affleck to go from stating his affinity for the character from an early age to saying he's doing it for his kid is just too on the nose.

    I wonder if affleck doesnt like the direction their taking the justice league and dc universe itself so is unwilling to commit fully unless he has more say.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭techdiver


    I'd love to be a fly on the wall in WB to see what sort of crap is going on. Nothing would surprise me considering the likes of Jon Peters etc held so much sway over the years. It's characters like that that call the shots there, i.e. Imbeciles that have no clue what they are doing and/or no concept of dealing with source material.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    I'm wayyyy out of my depth here... but who is Jon Peters, and what did he do badly...

    yes, I am going to auntie google after this...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    ahhhhh

    gotcha... From Wiki



    Superman Lives, Superman Returns and Man of Steel
    In the early 1990s, he bought the rights to the Superman film franchise from Warner Bros. In his Q&A/comedy DVD, An Evening With Kevin Smith, writer/director Kevin Smith related an anecdote about working for Peters when he was hired to write a script for a new Superman movie, then called Superman Reborn, and later renamed Superman Lives.According to Smith, Peters had expressed disdain for most of Superman's iconic characteristics by demanding that Superman was never to fly or appear in his trademark costume. He also suggested Sean Penn as being ideal for the role, based on his performance as a death row inmate in Dead Man Walking saying that Penn had the eyes of a "caged animal, a ****ing killer." Peters then demanded that the third act of the film include a fight between Superman and a giant spider, to be unveiled in an homage to King Kong. Peters later produced the 1999 steampunk western Wild Wild West, the finale of which features a giant mechanical spider.

    Smith met Peters after completing a script and Peters instructed him to include a robot sidekick for Brainiac, a fight scene between Brainiac and two polar bears, and a marketable "space dog" pet, similar to Star Wars character Chewbacca. Smith inserted them into his script, but the project was abandoned and the script discarded.

    In Look, Up in the Sky: The Amazing Story of Superman, Jon Peters admitted that the Superman franchise was problematic for him: "The elements that I was focusing on were away from the heart, it was more leaning towards 'Star Wars' in a sense, you know. I didn't realize the human part of it, I didn't have that."

    He subsequently served as producer for Superman Returns, the 2006 movie directed by Bryan Singer, and as an executive producer for Man of Steel, the 2013 movie directed by Zack Snyder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    I would also wonder is the problem that the studio is trying to go a new direction ( like another poster has said with their upcoming films) and it's a case of Affleck finding it more and more difficult to create his version of Batman that fits in with this universe.

    Whatever it is you would really have to question why WB wouldn't give Affleck almost creative freedom to do what he wants with his Batman films considering how successful Batman was the last time they trusted a talented director in Nolan and the seemingly positive reaction from people when they heard he was to make a solo batman film. I understand that Nolan didn't have to make his batman fit in a wider universe all the same.

    So they do have to make sure whatever happens in an Affleck film doesn't hinder other directors and properties but I can't imagine that Affleck doesn't understand that already.

    Worrying news anyway. The Ben Affleck Batman film was the one I was most looking forward to seeing so hopefully he gets his vision for the film made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    It crazy to think most if not everyone would be disappointed if Ben Affleck didn't get to direct Batman considering all the hate and I will include myself in that hate when it was announced that he would be Batman.



    Ben Affleck is the best thing about the DCEU I never ever thought I would say that.


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