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Olympics daily thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,399 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    That was some comeback for the Team GB women's hockey team. They were only bronze medalists in London and NL were the Olympic champions .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭ahlookit


    Have to say that was a lot more interesting than a regular soccer shoot-out, so many different strategies as to how to score in 8 seconds. Maybe they could think about doing something similar in soccer, giving a guy say 10-15 seconds to score with a defender and a goalie to beat? I like it anyway.

    they used to do something similar in MLS back in the day:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,399 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    walshb wrote: »
    GB are the stars of these games!

    We should be looking at what they're doing and see if we can emulate any of it. It's clear though that their government are pumping hundreds of millions of pounds into sport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,063 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    It's been better games then London too.

    We had so many good showings. If Boxers had only got couple medals it have been deserved

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    ahlookit wrote: »
    they used to do something similar in MLS back in the day:


    I think you need a defender there or something, the keeper has less of a chance that way than from the spot I reckon. And come to think of it, didn't they used to have a version of it on Superstars back in the day as well.....but that's just me showing my age now!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Birdie Num Num


    Strazdas wrote: »
    We should be looking at what they're doing and see if we can emulate any of it. It's clear though that their government are pumping hundreds of millions of pounds into sport.

    But the public also really embrace a variety of sports. They are hosting the World athletics Champs in London next year in August and tickets are already on sale. They will fill the stadium the same way they filled venues in 2012.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    It's been better games then London too.

    We had so many good showings. If Boxers had only got couple medals it have been deserved

    I think we'll have a decent showing in 2020. There are much better facilities and systems in place in Irish sport now. The Institute is a fantastic place, rowing and sailing and others are really getting their act together. Boxing can hit back. I'd be quite hopeful for the future anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,440 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Strazdas wrote: »
    We should be looking at what they're doing and see if we can emulate any of it. It's clear though that their government are pumping hundreds of millions of pounds into sport.

    They have a massive pool to choose from, as well as a deep and rich history in so many events and sports. They also have that innate instinct to be the best and to dominate. Part of what makes them British. They really set high standards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,399 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    But the public also really embrace a variety of sports. They are hosting the World athletics Champs in London next year in August and tickets are already on sale. They will fill the stadium the same way they filled venues in 2012.

    Definitely....the Olympic Stadium was full for even the morning sessions back in 2012.

    The World Athletics next year should be a fantastic event with a great atmosphere.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Strazdas wrote: »
    We should be looking at what they're doing and see if we can emulate any of it. It's clear though that their government are pumping hundreds of millions of pounds into sport.
    Their track and field performance is poor though, only 4 medals.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭ahlookit


    I think you need a defender there or something, the keeper has less of a chance that way than from the spot I reckon. And come to think of it, didn't they used to have a version of it on Superstars back in the day as well.....but that's just me showing my age now!

    I vaguely remember superstars...mainly the great theme music:D

    For those too young, here's a taste from second captains.

    THere was also a UK version which featured top footballers of the time. Million pound players fecking around on bikes. How did they get away with it???



    Some commentary from BRendan O Reilly featured in that clip too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,399 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Their track and field performance is poor though, only 4 medals.

    Yes, indeed.....they've targeted a lot of minority sports and pumped tens of millions of pounds into each of them but athletics is proving to be very elusive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,063 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    It's been better games then London too.

    We had so many good showings. If Boxers had only got couple medals it have been deserved

    I think we'll have a decent showing in 2020. There are much better facilities and systems in place in Irish sport now. The Institute is a fantastic place, rowing and sailing and others are really getting their act together. Boxing can hit back. I'd be quite hopeful for the future anyway.


    Agree.

    I'm actually very confident for future.

    We had top tens in 400 metre sprint, Rowing, sailing, Pentathlon, Diving, Walking(not including 2 medals). We had Hockey team showing they deserved to be there.

    In sure I'm forgetting some. Plus Conlon was robbed of medal.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    ahlookit wrote: »
    I vaguely remember superstars...mainly the great theme music:D

    For those too young, here's a taste from second captains.

    THere was also a UK version which featured top footballers of the time. Million pound players fecking around on bikes. How did they get away with it???



    Some commentary from BRendan O Reilly featured in that clip too

    I didn't remember the music. My main memory is of the guy with the beard - could have been Declan Burns was his name, rings a bell anyway - who was a monster for the pull ups. That was the one that sorted the men from the boys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,225 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Women's football final is very entertaining.
    Also, they don't go on with 5% of the play acting/diving/whinging/moaning that the men's game has become.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Agree.

    I'm actually very confident for future.

    We had top tens in 400 metre sprint, Rowing, sailing, Pentathlon, Diving, Walking(not including 2 medals). We had Hockey team showing they deserved to be there.

    In sure I'm forgetting some. Plus Conlon was robbed of medal.

    Yep, quite a lot to build on. The fact is we'll never have as much funding as we want here, or enough facilities to go around for everybody, but I think we can do a fair job of making the best out of what we have. I'd give anything to be a young elite athlete now, able to live for cheap rent in a house in Abbottstown with top class coaching/physio/facilities at my doorstep. Twenty years ago there was pretty much nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,440 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Just caught up on the decathlon. Eaton cements himself as the greatest athlete on earth. As salt n' pepa would say: Whatta man!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    http://www.medalspercapita.com/#medals-per-capita:2016

    The best way to view the medals table afaiac.

    NZ doing v well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,440 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Ayana to break 5000 WR later, unless she doesn't want to bring unwarranted suspicion on her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    mansize wrote: »
    http://www.medalspercapita.com/#medals-per-capita:2016

    The best way to view the medals table afaiac.

    NZ doing v well.

    There are all sorts of ways you can look at it. Everybody saying UK are doing great but the figure I saw for their investment was £275m and it's being worked out that each medal cost them £5.5m and some are asking the obvious question: is it worth it?

    No doubt NZ have done well, their target was a record 14 medals and they're going to surpass that. And they qualified 220 athletes too which is some going. But their investment was over 80m euro. I'm not sure what the comparable Irish figure is, but it's way lower than that.

    And increasing funding is all very well, but think of the pressure it brings. They've already started the post mortems in Australia because they "only" won 27 medals having splurged over 220m euro on their team. They basically copied the UK model of throwing large wads of cash at it but it has backfired fairly spectacularly on them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    walshb wrote: »
    Ayana to break 5000 WR later, unless she doesn't want to bring unwarranted suspicion on her.

    Do you think the suspicion after her 10000 was unwarranted?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭ahlookit


    They've already started the post mortems in Australia because they "only" won 27 medals having splurged over 220m euro on their team. They basically copied the UK model of throwing large wads of cash at it but it has backfired fairly spectacularly on them.

    Oz didnt spend enough!

    British track team got 30m from UK sport, also had a tie in with Sky, so who knows how much they spent in last 4 years?

    Love the use of the word "just" in the quote below:eek:

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/16/british-cycling-head-coach-hits-back-rivals

    The British Olympic cycling team are thought to be the best funded squad at the Olympics, receiving £30.2m from UK Sport. The bulk of that money is spent on the track, where the variables can be controlled and where most of the medals are on offer. They also partially benefit from membership subscriptions paid by British Cycling’s 123,500 lay members, costing between £21 and £72 a year.

    In comparison, the Australian Institute of Sport awarded its cyclists just AUD$34.1m (£18.6m) for the current four-year Olympic cycle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    ahlookit wrote: »
    Oz didnt spend enough!

    British track team got 30m from UK sport, also had a tie in with Sky, so who knows how much they spent in last 4 years?

    Love the use of the word "just" in the quote below:eek:

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/16/british-cycling-head-coach-hits-back-rivals

    These are figures from another stratosphere. The Aussies actually put around £30-35m into their swimming programme but "only" got 3 gold. Their target was 11 golds. I think I'm right in thinking Ireland's total spend is somewhere in the region of 10m euro? We're doing comparitively okay if you take that as any kind of barometer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭R00ster


    Ivory Coast and Tajikistan got their first ever golds today, to go with Bahrain, Vietnam, Kosovo, Fiji, Jordan, Puerto Rico, Singapore and the IOA team so far this Olympics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,440 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Do you think the suspicion after her 10000 was unwarranted?

    If folks analyse and break it down and take their ridiculous OTT 'everyone's a cheat' hat off then yes, kind of unwarranted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭PeterTheNinth


    Just down in the shop this morning, Pete Taylor is all over the front pages of some of the tabloids. Something like "Pete Sorry For Katie" or the like. I'll have a look for it on the interweb.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭clairewithani


    Just down in the shop this morning, Pete Taylor is all over the front pages of some of the tabloids. Something like "Pete Sorry For Katie" or the like. I'll have a look for it on the interweb.

    The word "tabloids" say it all. A non-story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    walshb wrote: »
    If folks analyse and break it down and take their ridiculous OTT 'everyone's a cheat' hat off then yes, kind if unwarranted.

    I guess people, including the likes of Sonia O'Sullivan and David Gillick, would be of the opinion that when your coach is caught with a suitcase full of drugs, we have entered the realm of warranted suspicion. But she could "only" finish 3rd last night so everything's ok now.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Just down in the shop this morning, Pete Taylor is all over the front pages of some of the tabloids. Something like "Pete Sorry For Katie" or the like. I'll have a look for it on the interweb.

    There's an interview with him in the Indo where he says all the boxers look tired and overtrained, that they were not getting the right guidance from their corners, and he gives out that all the high performance coaches went over with the male boxers and Katie was left without a coach for a week


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 491 ✭✭Wildlife Actor


    Stheno wrote: »
    There's an interview with him in the Indo where he says all the boxers look tired and overtrained, that they were not getting the right guidance from their corners, and he gives out that all the high performance coaches went over with the male boxers and Katie was left without a coach for a week
    A bit rich coming from him!


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