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Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

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    #9902
    yewtree
    Registered Users Posts: 811 ✭✭✭yewtree


    wats the craic wrote: »
    strathroy increase by 1 cent to 25.2 inc vat

    A good price relative to the other coops, is that paid as flat rate or at a base of 3.3% protein and 3.6% fat?


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    #9903
    jaymla627
    Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    stanflt wrote: »
    Gdam of 410 ebi bull

    Point out her flaws please

    Looks like theirs Oman in her, lovely cow not debating that, but for every cow like her that breed high ebi stock their is a heap more that wouldn't hold a candle to that cow/breeding...


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    #9904
    wats the craic
    Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭wats the craic


    yewtree wrote: »
    A good price relative to the other coops, is that paid as flat rate or at a base of 3.3% protein and 3.6% fat?

    i am on a spring contract which is based on 3.3 p and 3,.6 bf . there is a winter contract is baased on lower protein and butterfat figures


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    #9905
    Keepgrowing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    wats the craic wrote: »
    strathroy increase by 1 cent to 25.2 inc vat

    Great to see the price rising with most buyers. :) 4c more before end of year would really help


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    #9906
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Keepgrowing wrote:
    Great to see the price rising with most buyers. 4c more before end of year would really help


    Badly needed with volumes beginning to drop, hopefully a healthy price next spring


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    #9907
    Brown Podzol
    Registered Users Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    Got a txt there now. DG up 1.5.


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    #9908
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,220 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Brown Podzol wrote: »
    Got a txt there now. DG up 1.5.
    what's their price now?


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    #9909
    Brown Podzol
    Registered Users Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    whelan2 wrote: »
    what's their price now?

    I don't know if the 1.5 has a vat element in it but assuming it has the price for July would be c. 24 including vat.


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    #9910
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Brown Podzol wrote: »
    Got a txt there now. DG up 1.5.
    what's their price now?
    24c including vat and 0.5c quality bonus. Not sure what this is as the normal quality target bonus is 0.4c for scc, tbc, etc. So assume this is just for the month


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    #9911
    kerry cow
    Registered Users Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭kerry cow


    What are kerry at paying 22.5 cent That's a joke . 2 cent behind other co ops . Are they quite farmers or just down right foolish .


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    #9912
    OverRide
    Closed Accounts Posts: 665 ✭✭✭OverRide


    kerry cow wrote: »
    What are kerry at paying 22.5 cent That's a joke . 2 cent behind other co ops . Are they quite farmers or just down right foolish .

    They're paying more than Glanbia actually
    2c of glanbia's price is not glanbia's money at all,it's the farmers share money that they're trying to cod the farmer into thinking is price


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    #9913
    jaymla627
    Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    OverRide wrote: »
    They're paying more than Glanbia actually
    2c of glanbia's price is not glanbia's money at all,it's the farmers share money that they're trying to cod the farmer into thinking is price

    They're after pulling a nice stroke too clawing back fixed priced money, the scheme 5 price of 32 cent is now down to around 27 cent , also clawed backed money payed out from fixed price schemes in the previous months....
    Theirs noting simple with the scumbags, a few lads are down 4000-5000 on their July cheques and glanbia never so much as sent a letter/text about adjustments to fixed price schemes/retrospective claw backs, really bad form, probably lads in a situation now where cheques/dd's are going out and their going to struggle to meet them


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    #9914
    kowtow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    They're after pulling a nice stroke too clawing back fixed priced money, the scheme 5 price of 32 cent is now down to around 27 cent , also clawed backed money payed out from fixed price schemes in the previous months....
    Theirs noting simple with the scumbags, a few lads are down 4000-5000 on their July cheques and glanbia never so much as sent a letter/text about adjustments to fixed price schemes/retrospective claw backs, really bad form, probably lads in a situation now where cheques/dd's are going out and their going to struggle to meet them

    Is the customer which ought to match that fixed price scheme volume also paying less for the product? Or has all of that gone out the window in the excitement?


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    #9915
    jaymla627
    Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    kowtow wrote: »
    Is the customer which ought to match that fixed price scheme volume also paying less for the product? Or has all of that gone out the window in the excitement?

    I'd say it goes straight back into siobhans pocket, also linked to input prices like fert/feed etc so when they drop in price so does your fixed price milk, in real terms on phase 5 milk their was a 2 cent drop in price down to 27 cent plus vat was at 29 plus vat for June milk, it's funny how they waited till they rose milk price to implement the cuts probably hoped lads wouldn't be to put out


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    #9916
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    What's glanbias base? Strathroy are really putting them all to shame


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    #9917
    jaymla627
    Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    What's glanbias base? Strathroy are really putting them all to shame

    21 cent including vat, this latest stunt with the fixed price milk now means they're after alienating the last group of suppliers who where somewhat reasonably happy with them (lads with a nice chunk of milk fixed)......
    Realistically they need to get their base price up past 25 before January our their will be serious disillusionment among suppliers


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    #9918
    blackdog1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    jaymla627 wrote:
    21 cent including vat, this latest stunt with the fixed price milk now means they're after alienating the last group of suppliers who where somewhat reasonably happy with them (lads with a nice chunk of milk fixed)...... Realistically they need to get their base price up past 25 before January our their will be serious disillusionment among suppliers


    They're looking like Fonterra now. Setting a price then readjusting it and getting farmers to pay them back.


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    #9919
    jack o shea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 607 ✭✭✭jack o shea


    Talbot is a pirate hooker.


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    #9920
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Pr 3.46 butterfat 3.96 scc 210 tbc 21 price 25.46. Arrabawn was sure with co op report I was in the too 23% in yield and 10% in butterfat. Cows haven't been milking well here due to large number of heifers, reduced meal/fert


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    #9921
    kowtow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    jaymla627 wrote:
    21 cent including vat, this latest stunt with the fixed price milk now means they're after alienating the last group of suppliers who where somewhat reasonably happy with them (lads with a nice chunk of milk fixed)...... Realistically they need to get their base price up past 25 before January our their will be serious disillusionment among suppliers


    This is where the MSA comes in handy, at least for Glanbia.


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    #9922
    mf240
    Registered Users Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭mf240


    I'd say if they reduced it it is fully inline with the terms outlined.

    They have a good bit of milk bought at 29 cent up to the end of 2018.


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    #9923
    mf240
    Registered Users Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭mf240


    I'd say if they reduced it it is fully inline with the terms outlined.

    They have a good bit of milk bought at 29 cent up to the end of 2018.


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    #9924
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,220 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    kowtow wrote: »
    This is where the MSA comes in handy, at least for Glanbia.
    I am just wondering what they will come up with to stop a mass exodus when the msa is up.


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    #9925
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,220 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    Realistically they need to get their base price up past 25 before January our their will be serious disillusionment among suppliers
    Do you know many farmers-apart from Glanbia board members - who are happy with Glanbia? Alot of the yes people around here are totally fed up by now


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    #9926
    freedominacup
    Registered Users Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I am just wondering what they will come up with to stop a mass exodus when the msa is up.

    That's easy. They'll come up with a scheme to give you a big fist of your own money providing you sign up to a ten year indenture. They won't worry about a mass exodus. There are plenty of us too far from the border to have any real options.


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    #9927
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,220 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    freedominacup wrote: »
    That's easy. They'll come up with a scheme to give you a big fist of your own money providing you sign up to a ten year indenture. They won't worry about a mass exodus. There are plenty of us too far from the border to have any real options.
    Aren't strathroy already collecting down in the southeast?


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    #9928
    wats the craic
    Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭wats the craic


    freedominacup wrote: »
    That's easy. They'll come up with a scheme to give you a big fist of your own money providing you sign up to a ten year indenture. They won't worry about a mass exodus. There are plenty of us too far from the border to have any real options.

    well i am from hook head cant get any farther away from the north , unless i start grazing the sea :D


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    #9929
    jaymla627
    Registered Users Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    mf240 wrote: »
    I'd say if they reduced it it is fully inline with the terms outlined.

    They have a good bit of milk bought at 29 cent up to the end of 2018.

    It was all above board but not giving notice to suppliers, about it was very bad form, god help anyone trying to budget cashflow if their in for gap and milk flex schemes....


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    #9930
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,220 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    wats the craic wrote: »
    well i am from hook head cant get any farther away from the north , unless i start grazing the sea :D
    Do ye have any contract, are you happy with strathroy? Is there any chance of them pulling out?


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    #9931
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,220 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    It was all above board but not giving notice to suppliers, about it was very bad form, god help anyone trying to budget cashflow if their in for gap and milk flex schemes....
    we will probably get letters next week about it :cool:


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