Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

kowtow

Farmer Ed wrote: »

This world seems to have become one big casino.

I can cope with the world being a casino, what I don't like the idea of is the likes of Ms Talbot hovering behind me with the drinks tray, while her mates pull the cards from the shoe.

yewtree

Average lactation lenght in th USA is 2.4 and the they target calving intervals of400 days so clearly cows lasting past 3 lactation is unusually never mind 5-6.
They don't graze out their largely because it's not possible dairy states like Wisconsin have + 40 in summer and - 30 in winter ryegrass won't survive in those conditions.
I don't buy this idea that production/cow is a good indicator of farm profit. Clearly there are guys here who have high production and high profit. I will probably deliver 460 kg ms this year, if I was to listen to some of the stuff on here I should be gone broke, the reality is I can take a wage each month and clear all bills and repayments due. I am very positive about the future and will probably never get close to the production/ cow some lads are achieving but I don't think it will hold back my business.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Nothing yet:(

I'll take that as a sign that they are fighting over whether to rise it by 2c or just stick with the one for this month:o

Well, Kerry didn't stick with the 1c this month.

They held the price, the bunch of bar stewards:mad:

blackdog1

stanflt wrote:

Why doesnt his co op reports support 10k litres ???

stanflt wrote:

Easy to have a milk recorded 10k herd but to have a 10k co op report he needs to be doing 750kg ms plus per cow which no body is doing

1 fella in Waterford doing it Stan but he's inside all the time due to TB and milks 3 times a day. Lots of low ebi people doing well same as high ebi herds. Your not exactly a neutral Stan as you get a few Bulls tested I think? If so that is considered an income stream and I'd defend it vigorously too if I were you.

stanflt

blackdog1 wrote: »

1 fella in Waterford doing it Stan but he's inside all the time due to TB and milks 3 times a day. Lots of low ebi people doing well same as high ebi herds. Your not exactly a neutral Stan as you get a few Bulls tested I think? If so that is considered an income stream and I'd defend it vigorously too if I were you.

No co op report over 680kg so he couldn't be doing 10k unless his fat and protein combine to under 6.5

blackdog1

All I know is that is what he said and multiple Ai companies visited his farm just ask one of them when your at the ploughing whose in charge of bull selection. I forget the man's name as I dismissed his system...to labour intensive for me.

whelan2

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Well, Kerry didn't stick with the 1c this month.

They held the price, the bunch of bar stewards:mad:

what is the price?

Henwin

So kerry havent incresed by 1 cent?

yosemitesam1

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.nuffieldinternational.org/rep_pdf/1295816856Paul_Robinson_edited_report.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiJ0qnKr8jOAhUHI8AKHS9NCDsQFggfMAA&usg=AFQjCNH7jMoOlAznoV9b-ASF1KTtiw6dlQ&sig2=3kQlokcP-MlqsYmxFNNqEw

Worth a look about high yields and fert

stanflt

blackdog1 wrote: »

All I know is that is what he said and multiple Ai companies visited his farm just ask one of them when your at the ploughing whose in charge of bull selection. I forget the man's name as I dismissed his system...to labour intensive for me.

I don't believe anything unless it's backed up by proof- ie co op report etc

Buford T. Justice XIX

whelan2 wrote: »

what is the price?

23.5c, I think!

23.898c @ 3.774 fat and 3.354 protein, average constituents
24.088c @ 3.840 fat and 3.357 protein, standard constituents

Henwin wrote: »

So kerry havent incresed by 1 cent?

The report I got was that they were staying put for this month.

whelan2

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

23.5c, I think!

23.898c @ 3.774 fat and 3.354 protein, average constituents
24.088c @ 3.840 fat and 3.357 protein, standard constituents


The report I got was that they were staying put for this month.

still above Glanbia

oxjkqg

So kerry are the only coop who have decided to hold there june price.
Fantastic, just fantastic.

Buford T. Justice XIX

oxjkqg wrote: »

So kerry are the only coop who have decided to hold there june price.
Fantastic, just fantastic.

So far, anyway.

Hopefully my info is wrong:(

freedominacup

blackdog1 wrote: »

1 fella in Waterford doing it Stan but he's inside all the time due to TB and milks 3 times a day. Lots of low ebi people doing well same as high ebi herds. Your not exactly a neutral Stan as you get a few Bulls tested I think? If so that is considered an income stream and I'd defend it vigorously too if I were you.

I'm pretty sure the shine went off the 3 times per day this time last year. Couldn't swear to it mind but pretty certain. Facing back into the parlour after a couple of hours of a spin on the bike got old, fast.

oxjkqg

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

So far, anyway.

Hopefully my info is wrong:(

No you are right, its up on agriland there too

Brown Podzol

Bush telegraph is saying that DG are rising 1c today. June price was 21.31 exc vat.

Keepgrowing

I skipped past the pissing match and would love if people could quote in kg/ha sold. The hectare is the limiting factor aside from ourselves of course.

10,000 litres cows my hole. They're in Ireland alright I may even have a few but a whole herd, name one

mahoney_j

Keepgrowing wrote: »

I skipped past the pissing match and would love if people could quote in kg/ha sold. The hectare is the limiting factor aside from ourselves of course.

10,000 litres cows my hole. They're in Ireland alright I may even have a few but a whole herd, name one

1297 kg per hectare here on milk block 2015 figures

mf240

10000 litres costs 400 euros to have collected in a+b -c

freedominacup

mahoney_j wrote: »

1297 kg per hectare here on milk block 2015 figures

Milking block around 1250. Overall around 800. Hoping to hit just over 1100 overall this year. Probably be 1600-1700 on milking ha.

yewtree

Should be 1500 ms/ha here this year, (3.3 sr x 460 kg ms) on milking platform.
900 ms/ha over the whole farm.
stocked at 2.4 over whole farm and buying in 15% of winter feed. dont think there is much room to drive stocking rate any more on milking block as any additional milk solids will be effectively bought through imported feed, i dont have much excess grass.
Some lads on here can carry higher stocking rates and so should have higher ms solids/ha and it will be profitable.
The danger with ms/ha is we chase it and overstock farms leading to huge imported feed bills particularly in years like this, every farm has a different optimum stocking rate

Keepgrowing

yewtree wrote: »

Average lactation lenght in th USA is 2.4 and the they target calving intervals of400 days so clearly cows lasting past 3 lactation is unusually never mind 5-6.
They don't graze out their largely because it's not possible dairy states like Wisconsin have + 40 in summer and - 30 in winter ryegrass won't survive in those conditions.
I don't buy this idea that production/cow is a good indicator of farm profit. Clearly there are guys here who have high production and high profit. I will probably deliver 460 kg ms this year, if I was to listen to some of the stuff on here I should be gone broke, the reality is I can take a wage each month and clear all bills and repayments due. I am very positive about the future and will probably never get close to the production/ cow some lads are achieving but I don't think it will hold back my business.

Visited a few farms there 2 yrs ago and was blown away by the attention to detail and BCS on the farms. All large operations. Same question asked on each re Johnes protocol, each gave the same answer "no cow lives long enough for us to know"

stanflt

Glanbia pay 1cpl more for July milk

But deduct nearly 1cpl for overpaying fixed milk price schemes as they reckon they got it wrong

whelan2

stanflt wrote: »

Glanbia pay 1cpl more for July milk

But deduct nearly 1cpl for overpaying fixed milk price schemes as they reckon they got it wrong

sent in way more milk for july this year cheque down 2.5k on last year, better solids etc :mad:

jaymla627

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Realistically there is 30/40k lts 3k solids in most cows. You can get it over 3 or 6 lactations. The exceptional cow will 100 tonnes but how many cohorts will have fallen by the wayside. The trick is to get the output as economically as possible.

First stock bull I bought the grandmother/great grandmother had both done 100 tons plus of milk solids and both lasted past 9th lactation and both cows where over ex 90 classified.....
Maybe I'm a biased but I'd rather have heifers with this breeding in my herd then some next best thing genomic sire who's mother most likely has never done past 6000 litres in a lactation and has the confirmation traits of a goat/with a temperament to suit

stanflt

jaymla627 wrote: »

First stock bull I bought the grandmother/great grandmother had both done 100 tons plus of milk solids and both lasted past 9th lactation and both cows where over ex 90 classified.....
Maybe I'm a biased but I'd rather have heifers with this breeding in my herd then some next best thing genomic sire who's mother most likely has never done past 6000 litres in a lactation and has the confirmation traits of a goat/with a temperament to suit

Gdam of 410 ebi bull

Point out her flaws please

kowtow

stanflt wrote: »

Gdam of 410 ebi bull

Point out her flaws please

The only flaw she has is you haven't dropped her over yet

yewtree

Aurivo increase by 1 cent to 23 cent.

wats the craic

strathroy increase by 1 cent to 25.2 inc vat