Clare GAA discussion thread

Clareman · 28-07-2016 02:08PM

Good point, everyone knows that the league doesn't count

opinionated3 · 28-07-2016 10:36PM

Numerous rumours doing the rounds this evening that davy is about to step down citing health concerns. ..

Noveight · 28-07-2016 10:41PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

Numerous rumours doing the rounds this evening that davy is about to step down citing health concerns. ..

It'd be best for both himself and everyone else.

If he does go, I'd love to see his replacement go back to basics, man-for-man all over the field :cool: play that game and we'll see Croker again before long.

windy shepard henderson · 28-07-2016 11:20PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

Numerous rumours doing the rounds this evening that davy is about to step down citing health concerns. ..

heard this myself , shame it has to end in the way it has , he has brought clare back to the top of the hurling food chain won two national titles which none of us will ever forget , but there were a few con's there as well and if this dose come to pass there is an obvious choice waiting , donal malony has being part of clare minor/u21 and intermediate leval with clare since 2010 and has got to at least 1 all ireland final in each grade wining 3 21's and an intermediate to come next sunday week he will have plenty of local competition though

Henno30 · 29-07-2016 12:00AM

opinionated3 wrote: »

Numerous rumours doing the rounds this evening that davy is about to step down citing health concerns. ..

Given that there's a professional spin doctor in their employ now, I would hold off on believing anything. Especially internet rumours. But that said, we can only hope.

Limestone Cowboy · 29-07-2016 12:17AM

If that's from the Clare Clare Clare Facebook page I wouldn't believe a word of it. The guy running it is a total wum, you should have seen the stuff he used to write on the Clare hurlers forum.

tatoo · 29-07-2016 01:52AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

heard this myself , shame it has to end in the way it has , he has brought clare back to the top of the hurling food chain h

Are you for real, how on earth do you make out that Clare are on top , or even remotely near the top of the Hurling food chain.
And if you were daft enough to actually believe that we are, on what grounds are you giving Davy credit with getting Clare there ?

windy shepard henderson · 29-07-2016 10:08AM

tatoo wrote: »

Are you for real, how on earth do you make out that Clare are on top , or even remotely near the top of the Hurling food chain.
And if you were daft enough to actually believe that we are, on what grounds are you giving Davy credit with getting Clare there ?

They won an all ireland and a national league on the last 3 years . Look over the last 10 years and other then ourselves the same 2 or 3 teams pop up in the roll of honours

tatoo · 29-07-2016 10:39AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

They won an all ireland and a national league on the last 3 years . Look over the last 10 years and other then ourselves the same 2 or 3 teams pop up in the roll of honours

They won a fantastic All Ireland in 2013,
Since then Clare's Championship record consists of victories over Laois, Offaly and a Limerick team in complete disarray, that is far, far from being at the top of anything.
Had Clare played Tipp last Sunday, the margin could well have been twenty points or more, the current manager has been given every chance and more than ample resources, and it is clearly not working out.

BnB · 29-07-2016 10:42AM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

If that's from the Clare Clare Clare Facebook page I wouldn't believe a word of it. The guy running it is a total wum, you should have seen the stuff he used to write on the Clare hurlers forum.

He is more than just a WUM. He is a complete and utter Scumbag.

Henno30 · 29-07-2016 11:58AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

They won an all ireland and a national league on the last 3 years . Look over the last 10 years and other then ourselves the same 2 or 3 teams pop up in the roll of honours

Clare are a complete irrelevance in the championship. Not only are Clare not at the top, they're not even on the level below that. Three abysmal seasons where performances are getting worse and not better, with the most talented group of players we have ever had. This is as bad as the dark days of the eighties for Clare hurling. It is indicative of the age old inferiority complex that Davy has done his best to revive that people can suggest that we are somehow doing alright. We are a shambles.

Clareman · 29-07-2016 12:09PM

In 95 we realized that the league was worthless, now we're trying to make out that the Munster League means something. In GAA you are graded on your championship results, this isn't just at intercounty level but at every level for a manager to be holding onto a good Championship 3 years ago is a major stretch.

Clareman · 29-07-2016 12:10PM

Right, Mr Fitzgeral has taken up enough of my thoughts, unfortunately there's nothing that anyone can do to make him jump so there isn't much point in talking about it until after the football, so roll on Sunday

opinionated3 · 29-07-2016 12:21PM

Right, so based on some previous comments it's fair too say that every comp outside of championship is irrelevant and a complete waste of time? Why should fans bother going to league matches so?

buck65 · 29-07-2016 01:54PM

They really don't actually go! A few thousand in Cusack park is the height of it. I go to league games but with an attitiude of seeing a game of hurling and all the well if Clare win, the result is forgotten fairly quickly.
The league is a primer only for the real thing - winning the league is not better than winning a championship game.

tatoo · 29-07-2016 02:01PM

buck65 wrote: »

They really don't actually go! A few thousand in Cusack park is the height of it. I go to league games but with an attitiude of seeing a game of hurling and all the well if Clare win, the result is forgotten fairly quickly.
The league is a primer only for the real thing - winning the league is not better than winning a championship game.

I've spoken to many Clare fans, many of them I would class as being diehards , and they are definite in that they won't be following Clare next year under Fitz, I'm sure some of them may change their mind come the time , but they seem so definite I'd reckon most won't.

Henno30 · 29-07-2016 02:06PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

Right, so based on some previous comments it's fair too say that every comp outside of championship is irrelevant and a complete waste of time? Why should fans bother going to league matches so?

It's not worthless, but you have to understand it's a distant second to winning a big championship game, never mind a Munster or All-Ireland championship. Most people probably couldn't tell you won the league in 2013.

It's worth watching when you're interested in the game and in the progress of players. Just like challenge games are worth driving to see. But alongside a dreadful championship record it is of no value. It's nice to win it, but that's it.

MfMan · 29-07-2016 02:56PM

Where was Darach Honan last Sunday?

Clareman · 29-07-2016 03:07PM

So the footballers on Sunday.

I don't think it's possible for Clare to play defensively and I don't think we should even consider trying to change our approach. We scored 17 points against Kerry in Killarney, if we can match that or better I'd be delighted, cut out the stupid mistakes and we've a chance (skim I know). I would leave the team the same as it started the last day, especially with SEcton starting ahead of Podge, I think Podge is a far better sub to have to bring on and after 3 games in a row we'll have to be very smart in our use of the bench.

ProudDUB · 29-07-2016 03:22PM

People of Clare. I wish you a bazillion truckloads of luck on Sunday. Pummel them. Pummel them hard !

Clareman · 29-07-2016 03:25PM

ProudDUB wrote: »

People of Clare. I wish you a bazillion truckloads of luck on Sunday. Pummel them. Pummel them hard !

Unfortunately we won't be able to match them physically, our only hope is to run them ragged, hopefully Brennan won't be taken out of it like he was in Killarney.

ProudDUB · 29-07-2016 05:05PM

Well, if you could at least oblige by getting Donaghy sent off with a straight red, we'd be ever so grateful.

windy shepard henderson · 30-07-2016 03:24PM

Clareman wrote: »

So the footballers on Sunday.

I don't think it's possible for Clare to play defensively and I don't think we should even consider trying to change our approach. We scored 17 points against Kerry in Killarney, if we can match that or better I'd be delighted, cut out the stupid mistakes and we've a chance (skim I know). I would leave the team the same as it started the last day, especially with SEcton starting ahead of Podge, I think Podge is a far better sub to have to bring on and after 3 games in a row we'll have to be very smart in our use of the bench.

podge was probably our best player in killarney before his black card , i worry about us at the back especially early on we need to put up a big score once again , we had a few goal chances to bring us back in to the game down there in june but squandered them , it is an absolute must that we avoid any of the errors that cost us 2-01 in the first 10 minutes against them the last day , that was an unforgivable lead to give any team , play as well as we did in the park 2 years ago and we will have every chance pf pulling of a shock , anything else wont do

Clareman · 30-07-2016 03:30PM

I think we're going to struggle in the last 20 minutes of the game tomorrow so if we've to have any hope we've to limit Kerry and score as much as possible and take whatever goal chances come our way. There's no point in thinking we can play defensively so we might as well go out and try to score as much as possible, Kerry took Brennan out of it the last day I wouldn't be surprised if they did a number on him again tomorrow, of course it won't be on purpose just "awkward"

windy shepard henderson · 30-07-2016 03:48PM

Clareman wrote: »

I think we're going to struggle in the last 20 minutes of the game tomorrow so if we've to have any hope we've to limit Kerry and score as much as possible and take whatever goal chances come our way. There's no point in thinking we can play defensively so we might as well go out and try to score as much as possible, Kerry took Brennan out of it the last day I wouldn't be surprised if they did a number on him again tomorrow, of course it won't be on purpose just "awkward"

4 games in 4 weeks is a tough ask , mayo and cork got last week off which i cant figure , but yeah donaghey did a fairy good job on brennan the last day in the first half he will start there on brennan again tomorrow alongside david moran who really struggled two years ago in cusack park . james o'donoughue starting tomorrow will makes up for gooch's loss , its basically a case of putting up as big a score as possible and hope from there .....big ask

Clareman · 30-07-2016 04:12PM

I can't understand how the 2 games tomorrow aren't going to towards the same semi final, surely it would make sense

Gael85 · 30-07-2016 04:49PM

Clareman wrote: »

I think we're going to struggle in the last 20 minutes of the game tomorrow so if we've to have any hope we've to limit Kerry and score as much as possible and take whatever goal chances come our way. There's no point in thinking we can play defensively so we might as well go out and try to score as much as possible, Kerry took Brennan out of it the last day I wouldn't be surprised if they did a number on him again tomorrow, of course it won't be on purpose just "awkward"

Who took Brennan out the last day? I suspect Kerry will have a couple bodys to take yellow/black cards for team when tracking Brennan runs

windy shepard henderson · 30-07-2016 04:53PM

Gael85 wrote: »

Who took Brennan out the last day? I suspect Kerry will have a couple bodys to take yellow/black cards for team when tracking Brennan runs

donaghey mainly in the first half , we got on top of them in the second , brian sheehan was the other midfielder that day and caught pretty much everything thrown at him also but i think as the games have gone on we have improved in midfield since then

Clareman · 31-07-2016 01:11PM

Less than an hour to go, I've a checky €5 on Dean Ryan to score the first goal at 66/1

Noveight · 31-07-2016 03:38PM

Disappointing but ultimately inevitable. Proud of our lads to get that far, great experience for future days in Croker.

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