Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
STOVES questions and answers here(see mod note in post 1)
Options
Comments
-
-
-
-
I note your stove has a folded type baffle with a horizontal section. I seen a similar problem with a friends 7 kw Chinese cast iron stove with a similar type baffle arrangement. The stove tended to smoke slightly when adding peat briquettes. But it was very bad when coal was added as the loose coal dust (slack) use to flare up immediately when added to fire and smoke and dust use to bellow out into room.
Anyhow, I note that this problem does not seem to occur on stoves that I am familiar with where the baffle plate is continually at an angle (about 45) even though many of these stove flues are not lined and just feed into ordinary clay chimneys.
So we suspected that the horizontal part of the baffle was directing the smoke forward and outwards into the room. We removed the baffle and replaced it with a square flat piece of 3mm steel plate that was big enough to sit on back of fire plate/brick and reach the retaining lugs at front. This new 'baffle' was now running at 45 degrees approx and had no horizontal bit.
The result was that the stove did not smoke. However, this new baffle is lower and nearer fire and it was noted that the glass and front door gets a lot hotter, so I cannot give a general recommendation for this action. However, in this case the 7kw stove is large compared to room size (13 X 13 feet) and this arrangement seems OK so far, as the stove does not need to be over fueled or driven hard so to speak.
A response from the manufactures:
Sorry to hear of your issue of smoke into the room. Whilst we would class puffs of smoke into the room to be normal on certain installations, a continuous stream is not common on FX5W stoves, in fact almost unheard of.
The only instances we have come across were due to one of two things namely; mis-location of the baffle plate (see below) or lack of flue draught and/or flow.
Please see the image below showing the correct location of the baffle plate:
Please make sure that the baffle is the right way around and the right way up and that the small shelf support at the rear is cleaned off properly before re-fitting the plate.
If this is correct and the stove is still smoking then there is only one possible further reason and that is flue draught and flue flow. Whilst a pascal reading of 20 should normally be satisfactory, this is a negative pressure reading and does not give an indication of the actual volume flow. I note that the rear vent outlet is being used and this does require more draught than the top vent for obvious reasons, there being a horizontal take-off from the back of the stove. There may be an obstruction of some kind in the system where the liner has become pinched or blocked in some way or leakage of air into the flue-way and will require further investigation. A good way to confirm this would be to remove the baffle plate from the stove completely before firing on one occasion and if this does not totally eliminate smoke when the door is opened then it confirms that lack of flue flow is the only possible issue. It is not advisable to operate the stove continuously with the baffle plate completely removed but will help identify the issue.
Regards,
Peter
Fireline Technical0 -
A response from the manufactures:
Sorry to hear of your issue of smoke into the room. Whilst we would class puffs of smoke into the room to be normal on certain installations, a continuous stream is not common on FX5W stoves, in fact almost unheard of.
The only instances we have come across were due to one of two things namely; mis-location of the baffle plate (see below) or lack of flue draught and/or flow.
Please see the image below showing the correct location of the baffle plate:
Please make sure that the baffle is the right way around and the right way up and that the small shelf support at the rear is cleaned off properly before re-fitting the plate.
If this is correct and the stove is still smoking then there is only one possible further reason and that is flue draught and flue flow. Whilst a pascal reading of 20 should normally be satisfactory, this is a negative pressure reading and does not give an indication of the actual volume flow. I note that the rear vent outlet is being used and this does require more draught than the top vent for obvious reasons, there being a horizontal take-off from the back of the stove. There may be an obstruction of some kind in the system where the liner has become pinched or blocked in some way or leakage of air into the flue-way and will require further investigation. A good way to confirm this would be to remove the baffle plate from the stove completely before firing on one occasion and if this does not totally eliminate smoke when the door is opened then it confirms that lack of flue flow is the only possible issue. It is not advisable to operate the stove continuously with the baffle plate completely removed but will help identify the issue.
Regards,
Peter
Fireline Technical
I suppose you should remove the baffle and light fire as suggested by manufacturer to check and report back to them and see what they will do. I am not sure where you should go from there. Would the manufacturer or supplier send someone out to check stove or is this the installers job?
You could try posting problem in 'consumer issues' forum on boards to see whether the stove manufacturer or supplier or installer has an obligation to look after you better here.
Best of luck.0 -
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
The original owners of this house painted around their furniture rather than move it, and everything is sited strangely (light switches on far walls rather than near the door etc.) so my faith in anything being planned properly is not very high
We have since improved insulation and so on, but as our new extension is in progress, I need to make a call on whether we put radiators linked up to the existing system in each room, or go with something else. The existing radiators only heat half way down in any case, so I'll have to see what the plumber says.0 -
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
-
Hi,
I'm looking for a Multi-fuel, Non-boiler 4kW Stove for our sitting room and I'm wondering if a Cassette Stove is a sensible solution. I like the idea of avoiding having to choose and pay for a mantlepiece but I'm wondering if this saving offsets the cost of placing the stove higher up than the current opening:
Cavity dimensions: 50cm(width)*35cm(depth)*82cm(height)
Is it a major operation to relocate the opening? How expensive roughly speaking might it be to install compared to installing an insert or freestanding stove?
Fell free to PM any specific model recommendations as I'm struggling to find 4kW stoves.
Thanks very much,
Barra0 -
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
Advertisement