Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

lougal88 wrote: »

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I think any Irish going over to the fight in August should all bring one, I'm certain Conor would see the funny side. What a sight it'd be seeing thousands of pool noodles waving through the crowd of the T-Mobile Arena.

StringerBell wrote: »

Jesus he is talking some **** in that interview, no harm in it since he has a fight to promote. The only worry would be if you thought he actually believed it!

Why would you not want him to be believing it? He thinks he tired too soon because he was over eating and training incorrectly in the week of the fight. So he is going to revert back to methods that worked for him previously.

He also believes if he had covered up when Diaz hit him with that big left, rather than continuing to throw punches back, that he 'might' have been able to weather the storm and come back out for Rd 3 where Diaz might have been a bit more exhausted also.

He's also confident the rematch will have a different outcome. He's a fighter, he has to believe that. There's nothing too unbelievable on any of that I don't think?

Whelo79 wrote: »

Why would you not want him to be believing it? He thinks he tired too soon because he was over eating and training incorrectly in the week of the fight. So he is going to revert back to methods that worked for him previously.

He also believes if he had covered up when Diaz hit him with that big left, rather than continuing to throw punches back, that he 'might' have been able to weather the storm and come back out for Rd 3 where Diaz might have been a bit more exhausted also.

He's also confident the rematch will have a different outcome. He's a fighter, he has to believe that. There's nothing too unbelievable on any of that I don't think?

Of course he has to believe he can change the result for the next fight. Learning from mistakes that put him in the position he was in that fight would be a pretty crucial component of that though, bull****ting about how he could have weathered the storm is pure bravado, he was done at that point it was just a matter of when.

Nate had been coming on stronger from the beginning of round 2 and traditionally comes on stronger the longer the fight goes, he didn't get any magical burst of energy from the one two he landed, he didn't need any boost of confidence, he had taken everything McGregor had to throw at him and was never in any trouble, he had him dead to rights and Conor shot to avoid getting a longer lay off from a KO loss imho

As I said, there is nothing wrong with hyping a fight, its his job. The chatter from himself and Kavanagh is not something you could point to as evidence either man has actually identified where they made mistakes (Kavanagh more so then McGregor funnily enough) and crucially what they are going to do differently this time around to give themselves the best shot at changing the result.

Obviously they are not going to come out and publicly lay out the game plan, talk about what they are going to do in great detail honestly, which is why I said its fine to be talking this ****e for promotion, the only problem would be if they believe it.

Conor talking about toying with Nate in the rematch is also bravado, and hype building, and nothing wrong with it either. I doubt very highly he is going to do it though or that he for one second doubts how difficult a task it is that awaits him, particularly is they do plan on going in tot he fight giving up so much weight.

Maybe he thinks he can point his way to a victory, and over 3 rounds I would say he definitely could, but not over 5 and anyway I don't think out pointing someone is ever going to be in Conors game plan.

I don't think he is dumb enough to believe the **** he is talking, if you do fair enough. No need to argue about it really, sure its all just opinion

newbbieb wrote: »

But there is room for being critical of his thinking and his team around him.[/quoting]
Of course. By there's nonreal reason to go public with any of that. It's better That everyone thinks he is underestimating Nate again.

but after this loss at 170 his reputation will have a permanent stain on it,

Nate's a quality fighter, I'd never consider losing to him a stain on anyone's career.

It beggars belief that someone in the position Conor was in and the name he had built for himself was allowed to make this fight,obviously his confidence got him to where he is today but Confidence to me is spilling over into delusion at this point,he never wobbled Nate once he damaged him cosmetically but never wobbled him.

Having this fight at 170 protects his credibility at 155. If he loses to him at 155. He's got nowhere to go after a final 145 fight. (I only think he has the one left at FW)

JustTheOne wrote: »

Well excuse me.

Don't worry easy mistake to make. Even non-ppv cards with no title fights the main is 5 rounds still. Gotta give those live punters some value at the end of the night!

newbbieb wrote: »

Even if by some miracle he did get past the likes of Khabib or Ferguson or Rda to the LW title,he would never be considered the real 55 champion people would just claim Nate as the real champion just like they do now with Khabib because of how he destroyed RDA,and that was only in one fight not twice decisively.

So right now Khabib is the real 155 champ, but if Conor beats RDA then Diaz is the real champ.
That's nonsense, come on you know it is. If it were true, then anybody who has ever lost is not considered the real champ. Even if they lost at a higher weight.
Very few champs have pristine records.Mighty Mouse lost to Cruz, does that mean he isn't really fly champ? Miocic lost to JDS.

Khabib is maybe considered champ as he went through RDA on route to a title then got injured. Very different situation. He will be champ some day, not yet though.

I would also be surprised if Conor was of the mindset of protecting his credibility at 55 by making at 170,that would infer that he is contemplating defeat a second one in a row which no matter what way you look at it would be devastating to his stock,he will still be a massive draw but his stock takes serious damage with another loss like last time.

Losing to Nate at 155 does more damage to his stock than a second loss at 170.
Beating Nate at 170 does more to improve his position than a fight at 155.

Having the fight at 170, he has more to gain and less to lose. But it's also higher risk. More risk, more reward

Mellor wrote: »

That would only be the case if he lost to Nate at 145. Any stake he has as one of the best only applies, at this point, to the 145 division. Nobody has ever suggested Conor is among the best at lightweight.

Again, Mighty Mouse is a perfect example. He is the best flyweight of all time. Undeniable. But he lost to Cruz at BW, and would lose again if they fought. The fact he isn't the best BW ever doesn't harm his stock at 125. For my at least , as its all subjective.

Speaking of mighty mouse and his stock, it maazes me people would rather watch 2 slow heavyweights just swing for the fences than watch him fight. Apparently his stock (drawing power) isnt great. Cruz beat him.on points, would like to see a rematch

newbbieb wrote: »

You make a fair point about MM,i would agree he loses again to Cruz but it isn't down on paper yet that he has lost twice to him and also he actually give him a run for his money and your talking about the undisputed Bantamweight king of all time too.

While i rate Diaz highly he isn't or ever was a champ at 55 and most people seem to accept 55 is gonna be Conors long term home,so its slightly different losing decisively twice to a contender in that division than MMs situation.

If Conor made his cuts look a bit better and solidified at 45 permanently then i think your point applies somewhat but if he intends on 55 being his home then it hurts his ambitions there.

It isn't on paper that Conor lost to Diaz twice either. Let's wait and see.
The fact that this is at 170 and not 155 protects Conor record at 155, his future gone. That ms the point I was making above.

finglashoop wrote: »

Cruz beat him.on points, would like to see a rematch

It was on points, but I was also 50-45.