UFC 200 Jones vs Cormier 2

Saipanne wrote: »

So, this thing with Lesnar not getting tested. Does this bring the whole USADA regime into disrepute? I mean, there's some shenanigans going on here, surely?

Its a loophole for dopers

Saipanne wrote: »

So, this thing with Lesnar not getting tested. Does this bring the whole USADA regime into disrepute? I mean, there's some shenanigans going on here, surely?

He was tested last week.

Swashbuckler wrote: »

He is getting tested. But they wavered the 4 month notification period as he retired pre usada. But he is 100% getting tested. Don't agree with it to be honest but that's the UFC for you.

He was treated the same as any new signing to the UFC.

Mellor wrote:

He was treated the same as any new signing to the UFC.

If that's the case what's the relevance of the 4 month notification period? Is it to stop athletes "retiring" to avoid testing?

Swashbuckler wrote: »

If that's the case what's the relevance of the 4 month notification period? Is it to stop athletes "retiring" to avoid testing?

I dont know what the point of it is really, the whole thing just got blown out of proportion a bit cause brock is a rather large gentleman

Devastator wrote:

I thought it was to stop anything illegal being taken while retired, similar way to out of competition testing. Makes sure fighters are not taking anything to assist them while they are training and they have no advantage.

If that's the case then surely Brock fits in that category?

Devastator wrote:

I've no idea why he was made exempt, I don't agree with it. I think its double standards and makes a mockery of the USADA rules. IF this is a real 1 off then its done now but if he makes another 1 off comeback he should must meet the same rules as every other fighter

I think I'm in a minority in that I actually don't get too upset about peds, I mean they should just let them all go Ham pride style,

go nuts eat kangaroo steak dipped in bear juice wrapped in deer meat marinated in a honey flavoured anabolic steroid glaze, with a TRT jous and epo coulis.

(yes I'm watching Masterchef whilst typing this)

jcd5971 wrote: »

I think I'm in a minority in that I actually don't get too upset about peds, I mean they should just let them all go Ham pride style

fair enough in non contact sports like athletics or soccer I dont see a major problem in it but in something like boxing or mma its disgusting

Depp wrote: »

yeah exactly, look at yer man making his debut on the ottowa card jonathan meunier, hasnt been in the testing pool for 4 months and noone gives a solitary fnck

Or Darrell Horcher that fought Khabib on short notice. Or Damien Brown from the Brisbane card. BJJ champion Augusto Mendes.

It's probably happened 10 times since USADA took control, but it's only been an issue now.

Swashbuckler wrote: »

If that's the case what's the relevance of the 4 month notification period? Is it to stop athletes "retiring" to avoid testing?

It's to stop athlete removing themselves from the testing pool by a dummy retirement.

Swashbuckler wrote: »

If that's the case then surely Brock fits in that category?

Brock retired from MMA before rule existed. He was never in the testing pool. So as far as the USADA records are concerned, he's a new signing. And was being treated the same as the new signings listed above.

Here's a pretty rare Lesnar interview (he really doesn't speak all that much, what you've seen on ESPN lately is a very generous amount of media time by his standards) about his return to the octagon in July, such a straight-shooter, he does everything to suit himself and makes no secret of it.



Of course I've been a fan of his through wrestling as well as MMA for many years and he's just the same guy the whole time, he really doesn't play any characters. Doesn't like people all that much except for his family and close friends (Non-wrestling fans might not know too much about Paul Heyman the guy interviewing him here but he's a huge reason Lesnar became a big name in the first place).

Really looking forward to his fight at 200, doubt it's gonna end well for him but credit to him for coming back to prove to himself more than anyone that diverticulitis held him back massively as a fighter, aside from the obvious financial benefits which is of course the main reason he's doing it, and he'd make no secret of that either.

That's my Lesnar worshipping over for now. The Hunt fight is going to be my main event for sure.

Official card and fight order. Insane card to be fair

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Anyone fancy any big upsets over the whole weekend? I think Eddie could beat RDA and I really do think DC will beat Jones.

I love Jones, maybe not his persona, but you cannot help but admire the mans talent. I am a big admirer of DC too though, think he has improved since their last fight and I would agree with Ariel here, its basically number 1 v 2 pound for pound, cannot wait!

Card is stacked, in a way its better with Conor, the focus is spread about a bit better and it can't come soon enough!