The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2

eagle eye wrote: »

Not surprised the Patriots didn't resign him after hearing that.

Nope they just draft players who fall due to drug issues and end up murdering someone. #patriotsway

Also the patriots tried to resign him but weren't willing to pay the same as the broncos due to injuries.

It appears its not too bad a wound and I think in a few months it'll be forgotten about. I'd be super shocked if he was cut or anything like that.

Hazys wrote: »

TBF the Patriots are on the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to player arrests even including that one colossal fcuk up, so its a bit unfair to call it a total myth



Also the Patriots owed the Hernandez situation way better than other teams in similar situations, see Atlanta and Baltimore.

All that graph shows me is that it is a myth... the patriots way is winning, nothing more nothing less. They will take on character concerns if they think it'll help them win the superbowl. The use risk vs reward better than any other team in the nfleague but I bet if you asked bill if he'd have resigned Talib if the injury worries weren't a massive concern for them and he'd bite your hand off.

The idea that they only have an interest in high character guys is madness.

eagle eye wrote: »

Did you miss or just fail to understand the green grinning smiley at the end of my post?

Or maybe you have such a hate for the Patriots that you just had to let go?

I don't usually associate the green smiley with sarcasim... if it was meant in that manner fair enough.

I do hate the pats tho and i doubt any pats fan would want it any other way. (note I can hate but massively respect them at the same time).

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Partially torn ACL for Breshad Perriman. Yikes.

:(:(

Such a shame for the kid.

Langdon Alger wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SInow/status/741743584613945344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

He was hilarious last year. It must have been near enough 90% of calls he offered opinion on that turned out to be given the opposite way. :pac:

ScummyMan wrote: »

Firing a weapon while intoxicated in a club is a big no-no, even in Texas. I think he could be done in Denver

Been away for a couple of weeks - so the first opportunity to comment on this.

Talib is an idiot - and not for the first time. He previously got into trouble in Dallas when he was with the Pats.

There is conflicting information on what happened. Talib was in a strip club where a row broke out. No information about whether he was involved in this - but it wouldn't surprise me if he was. The shooting didn't happen in the strip club but in a nearby park. Talib told the police that he was too drunk and didn't know how he was shot - but rumours have surfaced that he told close 'friends' that he shot himself. Yesterday the police in Dallas issued a statement that they were investigating the shooting as an aggravated assault indicating that Talib did not actually shoot himself. Apparently a video has surfaced that was taken near the strip club where Talib was injured and four gunshots can clearly be heard. This would appear to form the basis for the police decision to investigate the shooting as an aggravated assault on Talib.

Now Talib is in trouble - apparently he didn't have a lcence for the weapon, a crime in Texas - he was drunk while in possession of a weapon, a crime in Texas - he discharged a weapon while drunk, a crime in Texas. If convicted on the first allegation then he could face six months in jail - either of the other two could net him a year.

The injury also appears to be more serious than first indicated - the bullet passed in through his thigh and out his lower leg - fortunately for him, it did not impact on major muscles or tendons. There is no timeframe for his return to football - he is due for weekly assessments with the Broncos medical staff.

Talib is also in trouble with the NFL who are carrying out their own investigation. At a minimum I would expect Talib to get a four game suspension for carrying a weapon while drunk. If he is convicted (or even charged) of anything then he could be banned for the entire year.

As for the Broncos - Elway has demonstrated an utter intolerance to any antics by players - Prater and Brewster were dumped for not behaving themselves and both Webster and Hillman have spent considerable time in the dog house. Talib has kept his nose clean since he arrived in Denver - but he is definitely in trouble over this incident. The Broncos have said nothing more than they are monitoring the situation and were aware that there was a police investigation - but it is telling that Talib was told not to attend the team meeting with Obama in the White House.

Directly relating to the comment quoted above - it would not surprise me in the least if the Broncos dumped Talib when the dust settled. The guy was due to make $8.5million next season (the money is not guaranteed) - it really is astonishing that so many NFL players do utterly stupid things to get themselves into trouble like this. He is not the first and he won't be the last,

Paully D wrote: »

Except when it suits of course, the same as every other team in the league.

For example, T.J Ward suffered no punishment from the team for throwing a glass at a female bartender when told he couldn't buy a drink in a strip club. The same for Von Miller when he was pulled for numerous traffic offenses including driving on a suspended licence within a period of a few weeks. The same for Knowshon Moreno who was arrested for speeding while driving under the influence of alcohol.

All charges against Ward were dropped - he was still suspended for one game by the NFL and the Broncos front office ordered him to issue a public apology for his behaviour and ordered him not to appeal the suspension.

Moreno was demoted on the depth chart for his antics. Moreno did learn and stopped acting like a fool.

Miller was shown to be immature and being led by others. And he wasn't 'pulled for numerous traffic offences' - he was pulled over twice - he primarily got into trouble for missing court appearances. He was already under suspension from the NFL at the time and was acting the eejit. The Broncos did take action - they requested Miller's parents to move in with their son and a Broncos official was sent to live with Miller and shadow him for several months. The people who were largely responsible for the trouble Miller got into were dumped from the team or reprimanded. Miller has matured a lot since these incidents three years ago - and is now a leader in the locker room.

If the Broncos were intent on only punishing fringe players they wouldn't have sacked Matt Prater. Prater was a key player for the Boncos at the time - he was under orders not to drink alcohol during training camp or the season. The Broncos regularly sent a team official unannounced to Prater's home to check if he was drinking alcohol and when it was discovered that he was drinking against orders he was dumped from the team. It cost the Broncos because they had to carry two players on the roster to replace Prater - Conor Barth for FGs and Brandon McManus for kick-offs - as well as carrying a big cap hit.

As I have previously said above - Talib is in serious trouble, not matter what happened in Dallas, and he is in trouble both with the NFL and the Broncos. I expect him to get a minimum 4 game suspension and possibly longer - and, as I said, I wouldn't be surprised to see him dumped by the Broncos (as an aside - I checked and his salary has been guaranteed after a recent deadline). At the very least I seriously doubt Talib is with the Broncos in a years time.