Via Networks RADSL

Mr. Fancypants

I sent a mail asking Via Networks if they would be reselling the Eircom Starter Pack. They sent me back a mail with these details :

They will be reselling the package on the 11th Of April
You will get 5 POP3 email accounts and a domain name
There will be *no* download limit
You can get a 2 month contract
There is a static IP
It will cost 63 Euro

The mail didnt state if the 63 Euro included VAT or not.
The contact number for VIA is 014336032

gurramok

Do VIA offer their service at any eircon dsl enabled exchange or is only for a small specific number of exchanges?
63 euro (incl/excl VAT )might be better value for some considering no cap, still expensive though (:

Mr. Fancypants

They are just reselling the Eircom product so i imagine it will be any exchange that Eircom offer.

eth0_

Originally posted by mbroaders
They are just reselling the Eircom product so i imagine it will be any exchange that Eircom offer.

I just rang and the girl said "we're not reselling eircoms product, it's actually our own product"

Snaga

Of course its their product.

They may be using eircoms equipment (DSLAMS), but all of their customers traffic will be shipped to VIA's core network and it will be VIA who provides the IP service to the customer, not eircom.

BKtje

€63 with no download cap, hmmm.
Anyone know if they user interleaving or fastpath or sommet else?

Atm Esat will be getting my money even with a download cap cos of fastpath.

If no one here knows ill try ringing em on Monday as they probably off the the weekend already.

spongebob

Originally posted by mbroaders
They will be reselling the package on the 11th Of April
You will get 5 POP3 email accounts and a domain name
There will be *no* download limit
You can get a 2 month contract
There is a static IP
It will cost 63 Euro

I'd say it excludes VAT

I heard that they can get interleaving turned off which helps gamers, normal RADSL will have interleaving turned on.

2 Month contracts are a help if cheaper alternatives show up in the next 8 months because the Eircom contract is a full 12 months no matter what the service.

They cannot be too happy with Eircom whoa re busy selling the product already bye bye Comreg. Via , their own reseller, have to wait the full 21 days to the 11/04

Ya makes yer own bed though.

M

KdjaCL

I have DSL and will be switching to a reseller unless Eircom drop the price.

But i wonder if VIA will actually advertise their service (like HERE would be a good place).


kdjac

spongebob

Originally posted by KdjaC
I have DSL and will be switching to a reseller unless Eircom drop the price.
But i wonder if VIA will actually advertise their service (like HERE would be a good place).
kdjac

You mean Via should take out banners rather than PIMP it LARGE like IBB does.

A nice colour banner (top right) could allude to the 'Cheapest Uncapped DSL' product in Ireland which is what it initially appears to be from the posts above. That would imply a serious long term commitment to the Irish market and thats where I have my suspicions about Via. Anyone in it for the long road would surely advertise where word of mouth is generated.

M

KdjaCL

Exactly ,i mean if they are going to offer that package which is far superior to Eircoms they should be pimping it large everywhere.

Me wonders also.

Maybe we all to skeptical

kdjac

BArra

via or esat or even... eircom should cater for gamers, most people that will take up bb will be those wanting low latency for online games..

places like germany cater for their gamer market by offering radsl with fastpath and they cash in on it, maybe price it a little more and the gamers would take it up, for the less latency issued consumers could purchase a lower end product with it turned on

but that would just be plain stupid wouldnt it irish telco's??



baz

SkepticOne

Originally posted by Snaga
Of course its their product.

They may be using eircoms equipment (DSLAMS), but all of their customers traffic will be shipped to VIA's core network and it will be VIA who provides the IP service to the customer, not eircom.

It will be interesting to see if they cover areas outside of Dublin.

thomasb

I hope I'm not breaking the forum rules on advertising, but I thought I would make a couple of points.

I am a VIA NET.WORKS employee, but I would point out that anything I say or do does not neccessarily represent the companies official position.

Firstly, VIA NET.WORKS sold their Irish operation off last summer, and the Irish company is no longer part of the VIA Worldwide corporation. As such, VIA Ireland is concentrating solely on the Irish market, and a new name change is due to be announced in the very near future. As our market is now purely Ireland, I think I'm safe in saying that we are committed to Ireland.

I've pointed our sales department in the direction of this thread - I'm sure some of the comments will be taken on board.

Hope this helps,

Thomas

DeVore

Why not grab a commercial interaction board. (Your product market research is off topic for this board). All the same we welcome any interaction with ISP's provided they declare who they are.... *glares at certain users*

Welcome to boards!

DeV.

daveirl

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PiE

Assuming the mentioned price is excl. VAT...

€63 + 21% = €76.23

Per month.

Even if it is uncapped, it has feck all chance of selling very well.

If it's actually €63 though, I could be convinced I suppose.

Mountjoy Mugger

Originally posted by daveirl

Any website for this company?

It's, emm, www.vianetworks.ie

Supercell

Presumably this is the new offering?

http://www.vianetworks.ie/adsl.html

Don't see any mention of monthly rates, just the connection charge [€165 (plus VAT at applicable rates)] .

Especially like the look of this...

And there are no traffic charges with Via's DSL offering, so you can upload and download whatever you like, whenever you like, without worrying about costs.

BigEejit

I know this is nitpicking (not to mention offtopic)... but on this page with a map of your connections to the internet the point that goes to Ireland is in the southwest .. and its marked Dublin ... I take great offence to this

Mr. Fancypants

I dont think the website has been updated with details of the new product yet. Its the same info up that was up for the original Eircom wholesale product.

Originally posted by Longfield
Presumably this is the new offering?

http://www.vianetworks.ie/adsl.html

Don't see any mention of monthly rates, just the connection charge [€165 (plus VAT at applicable rates)] .

Especially like the look of this...

And there are no traffic charges with Via's DSL offering, so you can upload and download whatever you like, whenever you like, without worrying about costs.

eth0_

Originally posted by Snaga
They may be using eircoms equipment (DSLAMS), but all of their customers traffic will be shipped to VIA's core network and it will be VIA who provides the IP service to the customer, not eircom.

I know THAT. She gave the impression to me that they were using their own equipment in the exchange....crossed wires I guess.

RicardoSmith

Of course if your line doesn't qualify for eircoms product it won't for Via's either since they use the same test AFAIK

bricks

Originally posted by thomasb
I hope I'm not breaking the forum rules on advertising, but I thought I would make a couple of points.

I am a VIA NET.WORKS employee, but I would point out that anything I say or do does not neccessarily represent the companies official position.

Firstly, VIA NET.WORKS sold their Irish operation off last summer, and the Irish company is no longer part of the VIA Worldwide corporation. As such, VIA Ireland is concentrating solely on the Irish market, and a new name change is due to be announced in the very near future. As our market is now purely Ireland, I think I'm safe in saying that we are committed to Ireland.

I've pointed our sales department in the direction of this thread - I'm sure some of the comments will be taken on board.

Hope this helps,

Thomas

How come the webpage does not give a monthy subscription price? (So we don't need to rely on Biddys)
There is no mention of the contention ratio either.
It does imply that there is no cap by saying download as much as you want.

gurramok

guess contetion ratio would be the same as they are re-sellers.
Monthly price i believe was 108 euro, the same as eircon but no cap
There was an earlier thread about VIA last year but can't find it

BKtje

Originally posted by BArra

places like germany cater for their gamer market by offering radsl with fastpath and they cash in on it, maybe price it a little more and the gamers would take it up, for the less latency issued consumers could purchase a lower end product with it turned on

Germany's main dsl provider has only within the last month switched to fastpath, not sure what they had before, surely theres more than just the two. Either way thei pings werent as bad as the eircom ones but not much better before.

If VIA will indeed use fastpath if i request it id be more than willing to fork out the €75 a month
Must ring em to confirm.

p2p

63 Euro
NO cap

I'd definitly consider getting it alright
Still very steep, but i might hold off
and see what UTV can do for us .. :cool:

shinzon

Is this offering just dublin, because the blurb says dublin and beyond

The should have given more info really

SHIN

MDR

brillant, this is exactily the type of thing the committe was hoping ... as via was already reselling, we are really hoping for more providers to start reselling also, create some competition ....

Praetorian

Notice to UTV and VIA. A lot of us are gamers, maybe 50% of us! We want low latency broadband, we might even pay a little extra for it. That means, Fast path over RADSL or no interleaving!

VIA are definitely heading down the right track with no cap, UTV please do the same.

Now what I want is someone to build a time machine so its Xmas already, this is when the Balbriggan exchange (16,000 people) will be upgraded)

Dustaz

Originally posted by thomasb
I hope I'm not breaking the forum rules on advertising, but I thought I would make a couple of points.

Hi Thomas, welcome to the forum

Dont worry, as long as your interacting with the posters here your not breaking any rules. The only thing we take a dim view on is unsolicited or extremely transparent marketing of services.

Great to have yis on board here, enjoy your stay

Oh yeh, we REALLY want to know if that price is vat inclusive or Exclusive.

eth0_

Originally posted by RicardoSmith
Of course if your line doesn't qualify for eircoms product it won't for Via's either since they use the same test AFAIK

Eircom told me there'll be a new line test after April 11th to take account of RADSL, so if your line failed before, have it tested after then, you never know.

Qualm

Last i heard from VIA - late last year, their products were all 12 month contracts, excl VAT and had the same download CAPs. This was all confirmed by a sales REP over the phone even though the site says different.

Now in saying that maybe they have changed it, does anyone know of anyone that has VIA ADSL?? I've not actually heard of anyone with it ... gods knows what to think :-)

Paul

p.s. lets hope this news is true and inc VAT and that we can get it on *all* eircom enabled exchanges

[edit] I just noticed that my GF was logged in here hehe[/edit]

flamegrill

*ahem* that last post (by qualm was myself)

Come on VIA, give us the Facts of this new service :-)

Paul

RicardoSmith

Originally posted by eth0_
Eircom told me there'll be a new line test after April 11th to take account of RADSL, so if your line failed before, have it tested after then, you never know.

Too late for me I'm moving to UTVip. Should have done it months ago. I'll probably wait for the UTVip to roll out cable too.

SkepticOne

Originally posted by flamegrill
*ahem* that last post (by qualm was myself)

Come on VIA, give us the Facts of this new service :-)

Paul

Suggest you PM Thomas.

Sloth

I want to leap on this thing as soon as possible. I've just contacted them via their form and will ring them tomorrow asking for full details of the service. This almost sounds too good to be true but if all goes ok I plan to avail of their service asap but even if it turns out to be crappy the fact that it is only a 2 month contract makes it very appealing.
No limit + 1mb speed + €68 per month + 2 month contract - Eircomness = sex on wheels.
Viva Via!

Rancid

Originally posted by Sloth
I want to leap on this thing as soon as possible. I've just contacted them via their form and will ring them tomorrow asking for full details of the service. This almost sounds too good to be true but if all goes ok I plan to avail of their service asap but even if it turns out to be crappy the fact that it is only a 2 month contract makes it very appealing.
No limit + 1mb speed + €68 per month + 2 month contract - Eircomness = sex on wheels.
Viva Via!

EXACTLY!

Especially the *no cap*.

I've been watching my "bytes received" over last couple days....and I'm not downloading mp3's or anything... just browsing lots and playing Half-Life a bit less than usual... and I'm seriously wondering if Eircom's ration of 4 gigs is gonna be too little....

Is 4 gigs enough?
Opinions, please!

Mr. Fancypants

No limit + 1mb speed + €68 per month + 2 month contract - Eircomness = sex on wheels.

Where are you getting the 1mb speed from? It would be the same as Eircom's starter pack (512MB rate adaptive).
I mailed them back pointing the Sales Rep to this thread and asking for confirmation if the 63 euro included VAT or not. I would be surprised if it does include VAT personally.

thomasb

Two things:

as far as I know, that 63 euro is exclusive of VAT.

Secondly, with regard to whats on the website, as I mentioned in my earlier posting, we're due to rebrand in the next few days, and I'd imagine a new web site is to be launched with that.

I hope this answers some of the questions,

Thomas

Boston

Originally posted by mbroaders
Where are you getting the 1mb speed from? It would be the same as Eircom's starter pack (512MB rate adaptive).
I mailed them back pointing the Sales Rep to this thread and asking for confirmation if the 63 euro included VAT or not. I would be surprised if it does include VAT personally.

I'd guess off their site where its says they will offer two services a 1mb and a 512k service. 68 euro+vat for a 1mb connection, if its true is about as cheep as your going to get from anybody.

Rancid

68 euro+vat for a 1mb connection...

Hmm....and for the 512k service... I wonder how much?

eth0_

Originally posted by Boston
I'd guess off their site where its says they will offer two services a 1mb and a 512k service. 68 euro+vat for a 1mb connection, if its true is about as cheep as your going to get from anybody.

*faints*

Sloth

Well Rancid if the 1mb service is that cheap then you might as well go for that or else live the rest of your life wondering what if.....? Now I don't know about you people but I'm off to order my xbox live starter kit

Dustaz

Christ, where did anyone say it would be €63 for 1 meg?


Via resell eircom, eircoms cheapest 1 meg connection is €150. How are they gonna offer it for €63?

Boston

Originally posted by Dustaz
Christ, where did anyone say it would be €63 for 1 meg?


Via resell eircom, eircoms cheapest 1 meg connection is €150. How are they gonna offer it for €63?

Sloth did on the other page, when asked where he got 1mb from i pointed out that there will be two services a 1mb and a 512k service. I did not make any claims about price, just to clear that up

Sloth

Oh sorry I kinda presumed that €68 was for the 1mb service. I'm going to ring them up now and find out more. Watch this space

Sloth

Mmm, couldn't get through. I presume they're all too busy working on getting me my bb connection. I'll try again tomorrow.

Mr. Fancypants

I have gotten confirmation that the 63 Euro is exclusive of VAT.
Seems slightly expensive to my tastes. Thats what...77-78 Euro inc VAT? 24 Euro more expensive per month for Uncapped Broadband....

flamegrill

Right, spoke to them on the way to cavan of all places this morning.

63 europ + vat = 512/128 RADSL service for home users, it includes a domain of choice and 5 pop accounts. it has a static IP and no download limit and a contention rqatio of 48:1. Don't be fooled, they don't have it available to all eircom enabled area's either. Ahwell

There are 3 other products for business starting at 169, 200 and 235 respectively. All come with a domain and the last comes with and SMTP backup service. All Ex-VAT to may I add ... RIP off HEHE

The home one isn't too bad, ill hold out for a bit yet anyways...

Paul

SkepticOne

Right, so the cheapest uncapped DSL in Ireland currently is 76.23 euros.

Piliger

Originally posted by mbroaders
I have gotten confirmation that the 63 Euro is exclusive of VAT.
Seems slightly expensive to my tastes. Thats what...77-78 Euro inc VAT? 24 Euro more expensive per month for Uncapped Broadband....

A curious pricing structure considering few home users are likely to chose to pay such a premium unless they expect to be extremely heavy users - which VERY few would imho.

They clearly expect Esat not to complete with Eircom in most exchanges and they will get six months of premium earnings while competition develops.