Mods should act more moddy

the_syco

The General wrote:

Boards is a very strict message board compared to other message boards around the net, but mods here seem to be able to say what they want to whoever they want and its getting a bit ridiculous, the only mod i know on here that i respect is Seamus, so should mods not have their own set of rules i.e. no bad language towards any members etc

WTF? Someone threatened AMP, and you think he should just calmly ignore it?

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Also, it has happened whereby mods were banned from other forums, me thinks, for acting the prat.

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IMHO, a bad mod is a mod that doesn't give me a temp ban when I step beyond the line.

Rozie wrote:

I think in general if the place was a bit more lax and a little less uptight, everyone would benefit and it would be a lot more comfortable.

...and it wpuld have been shut down. A few forums I visit have had lawsuits against it (and I think there was one against this one a year or two ago), as the mods weren't _harsh_ enough. They try their best to keep the peace, but if some little fool steps out of line, they'll get banned to ensure boards.ie stays legit, and above board. No doubt people like yourself wouldn't give a damn if boards.ie went under, but I do, and the mods do, and the mods give enough of a damn to spend their free time getting rid of any crap that appears on the forum.

sceptre wrote:

You won't have time to be the perfect mod when that happens. You're going skiing with a big gang of us in hell that day. It's all arranged.

Dude: that was ******* plan to get you off boards so he could spam it to pieces.

Lafortezza

Apart from Ropedrinks post this thread is worthless. The OP is just another muppet with a fight the powa chip on his shoulder.

[Jackass]

I have seen the mod in question threaten/carry out the "you're banned from games" one on several occasions...usually in forums or threads completely unrelated to games, and usually in a hand bags exchange back and fourth that he starts and then either loses or winds up a kid to make them become aggressive and hence get banned. Entrapment
An absolute abuse of his position as he knows mods are not likely to prevent him doing it, and it's unfair on his victims.

I think he's a spammer and a troll, who if he didn't know the owners or whatever, he would have been banned as a troll. He's rude, agressive and a bully. And also thrives on attention, infact craves it arond boards. (not enough hugs as a kid if you ask me.)

Before you point it out, I am aware of the irony of having to give him the attention to feed his ego to make this rant.

And no, this is not a bitter rant or chip on my shoulder, as I have never had any run-ins or dealings with him personally...merely observations.

rsynnott

Is it my imagination or do all the whiners have something in common?

billy the squid

CuLT wrote:

Yeah, I thought everyone got the memo.

nah, he was banned from the forum it was posted

the mod there is real strict.

Pighead

seamus wrote:

Pighead, I'd agree with you if you hadn't already posted 6,387 new threads on random topics in After Hours this evening.

I'd prefer to discuss the topic at hand.

I've actually only started one.A non random thread on Burglary.Perhaps you're mixing me up with Pigman 11?

nesf wrote:

Pighead. Please cop yourself on and give up on the gimmick. It got old about two months ago.

No gimmicks buddy.Could you please refrain from your unprovoked bad mouthing of Pighead.It also got old about two months ago.

Just to reiterate, moderators are here to help and remove garbage posts from the forums they are responsible for. They may be an overworked boards.ie employee or a regular user of the site who is pitching in on a volunteer basis. In either case, the moderators are working very hard to make these discussion boards a great place for everyone and deserve our respect.

KevIRL

A thought that might stop all this whinging and moaning about mods outside their own forum (s)

Is it possible to have the code that shows a mods name in bold only active in their own forum (s)? So as outside their own forum (s) they appear as just regular posters.

Doesnt bother me in the slightest to be honest, just a suggestion.

Beruthiel

The General

to quote Regi - that sticky at the top of this forum, the one you seemed to have missed:

This is for FEEDBACK. If you have a query, complaint or need help, use the HELPDESK.

in case you didn't get that, I'll repeat

if you have a complaint, take it to the helpdesk

azezil

WhiteWashMan

The General wrote:

You mods/people are the law around here and a few of you are going a bit overboard, if someone threatens a mod just ban them simple as

i think yo umissed the point.

that being that why do we have to put up with crap like that, and attacks here from people like you, when you are hardly a role model for the common man.

ive seen serveral of your escapades, many of your posts, and i havent been impressed.

when you and all the other 50000 users stop insulting each other, stop insulting me, stop spmming, linking porn, linking snuff movies, advertising, or generally putting up pointless poles about the length of shoelaces, then i really will endevour to do better.

if people cut me slack, i cut them slack.
a moderator who bans someone is not on a power trip. believe me, the joy of having many people constantly PM you looking to be reinstated into a forum, or trying to argue that it 'was their fault, they provoked me by having a viewpoint i dont agree with' constantly or some other rubbish.


as for mods doing and saying what they want, why cant they? i say what i want. mostly i stay within the confins of the charters or decency. but if i step over, im fully prepared to take whatever is handed me. ive been banned several times from several forums for many things. im no saint. but i know when ive done wrong and im damn well man enough to take an internet forum banning for a week!
its a shame that other people cant. as for decideding this weeks 'power mad mod' (can we make a sticky with this in it so people can complain?) well, get in line. there are loads of people who have issues with a perticular mod and just cant seem to get them out of their mind. if you were a gril, id call em groupies. maybe youre jut a little obsessed? who knows?

anywy, what do i care. ive been here longer than most people, i know all the important people, and sure if dont like you, i'll just get my good admin buddies to ban you for no reason at all. sure i do it every week at this stage!

Talliesin

The General wrote:

its just a mod using bad language towards another member for whatever reason should not be allowed

There's no rule against using "bad language" as such on boards. There's a rule against using "txt spk" on many individual forums, which to my mind fits the term "bad language" better than a few expletives. Posting **** every other word will probably get you banned for being a deliberate nuisance, but apart from that no rule was broken.

There is a rule against personal abuse on most of boards, but not the prison forum. With a very few exceptions (which are dealt with seriously) the people who post in the prison forum are either people who aren't actually capable of following simple rules and acting respectfully in the first place, or else people taunting the same.

The General wrote:

i suppose in a way your right but still would a guard (off duty but still in uniform) come up to me in the street and say "you are a homophobic ......." i doubt it very much

If it was relatively easy to show that you were "a homophobic ......." then you wouldn't be in much of a position to complain. Demonstrating that MI is a homophobic dickhead isn't very hard.

Rozie wrote:

I personally think it's ridiculous you can be banned from a forum from anything from a few days to indefinitely for a single mess up, and what the mess up is can often be just about everything.

The rules are a mixture of what is published as rules of boards, what is published as rules of a particular forum and what is taught to most people by the age of nine as to how to conduct yourself in public.

Rozie wrote:

Far too often do the mods side with the majority of members, or rather the ones that are shouting the loudest in the biggest group, rather than making independant decisons.

This is an unusual complaint. Normally the complaint is that we are not being democratic.

Mods will respond to loud shouting - because we can hear that. Though a BS complaint will not go down well with me.

Personally, I don't care if the majority of the members like me or not, I have plenty of friends and don't need to enter any popularity contests. Where I do care about the majority of members is in making the rules fit the majority of members of a forum I mod, either by adjusting a charter, or by supporting the creation of another forum if a particular off-topic subject comes up frequently in a forum. Apart from that I read the content of complaints and judge them on their merits, I don't care about the number - in any case the number game doesn't work if something is debated since the more there is that weigh in on one side the more there is that weigh in on the other.

Rozie wrote:

The problem with harsh forums is that it makes ME act harsh

Most users don't "act harsh". Most users never even get warnings.

Rozie wrote:

I dont' know if I'd say this about here, but I do think the mods need to act a little more respectful.

If you look at the posts by moderators that are not concerned with moderation you'll generally find that most of them are consistently helpful, considerate and interesting posters. This is how they've earned the respect that got them considered for moderation in the first place.

Generally when someone has broken one of the rules but are themselves respectful then unless there is a publised zero-tolerance policy on that particular rule (which is on rare occasions necessary because a particular rule is being so frequently broken to the point of interfering with a forum's operation) then generally this will be pointed out to the in either the thread in question or PM and they can see that they have broken the rule and continue to use the forum. This is respectful enforcement of the rules.

On the other hand when someone storms into a conversation that other people are having and insults those who are making use of the forum, Spams boards, or otherwise acts without any respect for the other users themselves I really don't feel amiss in insulting the little tosser as I ban them.

The General wrote:

You mods/people are the law around here and a few of you are going a bit overboard, if someone threatens a mod just ban them simple as

It's not acceptable to kill anyone. At the time of that PM I was myself in the middle of an argument with amp, yet I managed to somehow not send him a PM treatening to kill him.

The only difference I would have made for amp rather than another user in how this was enforced is that I would have trusted amp's claim about the PM based on the screenshot he sent, with another user that wasn't as much of a member in good standing I would have waited until an admin took a look at the PM before going further. This is a matter solely of the amount of evidence I would require before acting, not the actions I would take (and if I'd been the first s-mod to see the complaint then MI would be permanently banned, 3 weeks is too soft for that IMO).

stevenmu

Rozie wrote:

The problem with harsh forums is that it makes ME act harsh, as I've been to a lot of forums with power tripper mods, so it's a gut reaction at this stage. I think in general if the place was a bit more lax and a little less uptight, everyone would benefit and it would be a lot more comfortable.

What do you do if a couple of Gardai walk past you in the street, run in and rob a bank and blame it on them ?

The General

Beruthiel wrote:

The General

to quote Regi - that sticky at the top of this forum, the one you seemed to have missed:

This is for FEEDBACK. If you have a query, complaint or need help, use the HELPDESK.

in case you didn't get that, I'll repeat

if you have a complaint, take it to the helpdesk

its not really a complaint ( i don't mind how mods act ) but i taught they would still have to show respect to every member no matter what is said.

Talliesin

The General wrote:

but i taught they would still have to show respect to every member no matter what is said.

Respect is earned.

Civility is what one should expect by default. Though losing that can be earned too.

Hobbes

Mods should be more cuddly.

WhiteWashMan

oh, and with little pictures on their tummies, like care bears did!

i could have a picture of a paintbrush on my little tummy!

Beruthiel

The General wrote:

i taught they would still have to show respect to every member no matter what is said.

well
there's you're problem right there,
thinking is a dangerous thing in the work hands...
head...

WhiteWashMan

The General wrote:

its not really a complaint ( i don't mind how mods act ) but i taught they would still have to show respect to every member no matter what is said.

id expect the same from users as well.

rsynnott

The General wrote:

i taught they would still have to show respect to every member no matter what is said.

Presumably of some the mods didn't attend your class.

Talliesin

Hobbes wrote:

Mods should be more cuddly.

But I thought I was cuddly

Beruthiel

Talliesin wrote:

But I thought I was cuddly

well
there's you're problem right there,
thinking is a dangerous thing in the work hands...
head...

koneko

The General wrote:

but i taught they would still have to show respect to every member no matter what is said.

Why would you show respect to someone that has threatened you? And "no matter what" is pretty strong. Does that mean I can call you whatever I want, and you'll show respect towards me? (Don't worry, I won't call you names, unless you ask me to). Respect is earned.

Rozie

Right, I'm really ****ing sick of the mods here.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=3482494

This was complete and utter arrogance. And because of that there never WILL be another Doctor Who forum, the last one got support but was ignored, and this one was locked because I was "Bashing" their precious WW forum which hasn't had a single post(except the one I made) in over a month.

Not to mention being singled out and banned(For two weeks, nicely handing the debate over to my opponents, rather handily) from the fashion forum for personal attacks by someone who supposedly agrees with me, presumably since despite them agreeing with me it was easier to ban me than all the other people making personal attacks.

Not to mention that it goes along with your absolute rubbish "One slip" rule.

I'm really getting sick of this place. And it's not the normal get up and leave scenario as this board is meant to reperesent Ireland, and it's just making me realise more and more how much I don't want to be here. I've gotten into one sided arguments before, but that's usually with republicans/conservatives. This is just getting ridiculous.

I don't care if you think I'm a troll, or whatever, there's plenty of people who would disagree with you in this particular case. This place is getting far too strict, arrogant and snooty and since you have a monopoly on Irish boards it's not fair you can get away with it.

Is this whining? Maybe. Do I go overboard sometimes? Probably. It doesn't change that I might have a point. To think that making the board more lax will cause anarchy is ridiculous, and an extremely black and white way of thinking.

But, more than likely, much like those one sided debates I've had with conservative republicans, the next reply from a mod will be some form of mockery/irrelevant points/saying that I'm just "whining" and that makes me automatically wrong.

Hobbes

ecksor isn't a moderator. Hes an admin. Count your blessing you didn't disrespect the mustard forum.

For the last time.. Moderators are normal users of boards.ie once outside of thier respective forums.

You need to word your forum requests better btw.

Rozie

Hobbes wrote:

ecksor isn't a moderator. Hes an admin. Count your blessing you didn't disrepet the mustard forum.

For the last time.. Moderators are normal users of boards.ie once outside of thier respective forums.

You need to word your forum requests better btw.

Admin/mod, same thing.

And I'm sorry, but I made good points with that forum requests. There was no reason to fling it entirely off topic and then lock it.

Plus, I never said anything about "outside of their normal forums", only the decisions they make in their own.

Beruthiel

Rozie wrote:

Admin/mod, same thing..

no it's not the same thing
this site belongs to the Admins, they do with it as they wish.
we are Mods because they have allowed us to be
big difference

koneko

Monopoly? There are other forums, and anyone can start their own. It's not boards.ie's faulty if other people are too lazy to start their own. At the end of the day it's still just a forum, owned by a bunch of lads who had a common interest, and it grew from there. They're not under any obligation to change the site to suit a few people.

And I really really don't mean any offense by this Rozie (I'm just being honest or calling it as I see it), but I think a lot of the problems you're having on boards are down to your own attitude, and the over-the-top hostility you are portraying in nearly every thread I see. It's like walking into a pub and shoving people instead of starting up a nice friendly conversation. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe no one agrees.

Beruthiel

koneko wrote:

but I think a lot of the problems you're having on boards are down to your own attitude, and the over-the-top hostility you are portraining in nearly every thread I see..

could not agree more

Makaveli

Rozie wrote:

This place is getting far too strict, arrogant and snooty and since you have a monopoly on Irish boards it's not fair you can get away with it.

Start your own board to represent Ireland and take away the monopoly.
Also it's not a monopoly that would imply that boards.ie is the only Irish site that has a bulletin board.
And since when has boards.ie been Ireland's representation on the internet?

seamus

Rozie wrote:

Admin/mod, same thing.

There's your problem right there. You don't understand how this place works, and you're getting pissed off based on how you think the place works.

Start reading here and you may soon understand. Ecksor can do whatever the hell he likes.