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JFK Assassination
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Oh well the experts have spoken....pack it up guys and go home. This is a closed case!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh0-2Sthn9A
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Jocksereire wrote: »Oh well the experts have spoken....pack it up guys and go home. This is a closed case!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh0-2Sthn9A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN8ciZvlzvE
I've seen four different sets o official Autopsy photos,show me a definitive set please from which to make assessments0 -
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Thats coz the target is an elephants arse 3 yards awayThe-Rigger wrote: »Ok, I'm no conspiracy theorist, but they have completely ignored the variable that is 'aim'. 0 -
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Mahatma coat wrote: »actually that Penn anD Teller thing is just utter bollox, yeah anyone can cock and fire an EMPTY rifle 3 times in 8 seconds, but realisticly anyone who has ever fired more than a .22 will tell you that no matter how good yor stance and grip recoil is not something you can ignore.
Like I said before I believe Oswald did get a shot in, probably the first one that went through JFK's chest and struck Governor Connolly he may have got off another one but that's more than likely the one that hit the guy in the crowd
but the head shot came from his left hand side not from behind.
This is a CBS test from 1967
The bullet to the head did not come from the left side.
Entry wound
Exit wound
The top front right of the head was blown off.
This drawing presented to the House Select Committee on Assassinations in the 1970s shows the path of the bullet through the head.
This photo shows the inside of JFK's head with the brain removed showing the scalp peeled down over the face. The semicircular notch in the skull is the exit wound.
This diagram shows the distribution of bullet fragments inside the President's skull.
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Anyone that still believes Oswald did it on his own are clueless.
Just remember this, and remember this always, Governor John Connolly was seated in front of Kennedy, and he went to his grave insisting that he wasn't hit by the first shot that hit Kennedy in the throat, which was the magic bullet. You can see Connolly in the Zapruder filming turning to face JFK, and he said that he couldn't see him only a crowd of people waving, as he went to turn back, that's when he was hit, and you can see it as plain as day in the Zapruder film, the exact impact, and Connolly's head tilting backwards, with the pain. So that throws out the magic bullet, hence opens the whole conspiracy. Connolly himself reviewed the Zapruder film, and said he wasn't hit by the bullet that hit JFK in the throat, and he said nothing would ever make him change his mind. But the sad reality is so many people have bought into the magic bullet, because of all that fancy simulation rubbish that's been put out there.
Connolly's is the best witness to the whole assassination, and no person can ever refute his words, as much as they like to think they can.
Connally's back entry wound was elliptical in shape which indicates that bullet that struck him was yawing in flight prior to impact after striking another object.
The downward and diagonal trajectory of the bullet after impact through his chest indicates the shot came from above and behind.
Connally and Kennedy were in positions relative to each other that strongly indicates that the bullet would have had to have traveled through Kennedy's neck in order to strike Connally in the back.
Kennedy was sitting on a raised backseat while Connally was sitting on a fold up seat closer to the floor. Kennedy was sitting on the extreme right side of the car with his arm over the side of the car body while waving at the crowd while Connally was seated on the left side of the right jump seat with his torso turned to the right and his right hand clutching his hat across his lap.
A shot from above and behind from the 6th floor window could have hit both men and created the seven wounds.
Conspiracy theorists call the bullet a magic bullet and purposefully misrepresent the trajectory to make it appear ludicrous.
When the correct positions of both men is known the trajectory becomes the only logical explanation.
It is now believed that the instant of the shot which wounded both men was at frames 224-225 of the Zapruder film as the limousine emerges from behind a road sign blocking Zapruder's view of the limousine.
The right lapel of Connally's jacket pops out while Kennedy's hands spring to his neck.
The HSCA in the 1970s examined the trajectory.
JFK's wounds clearly show that the bullet entered the back of his neck to the right of the spine before exiting the throat where the doctors performed a tracheotomy.
Dr. John Lattimer's drawing based on the autopsy shows how the bullet passed through the neck.A. Bullet Hole in Back of Suit Collar and Shirt. The coat and shirt were probably humped up on the back of the President's neck (see fig. 83) when the first bullet struck him. The FBI found a punched-in round hole in the back of the coat consistent with a 6.5 mm bullet, with the broken cloth fibers bent inward, indicating that this was a wound of entry. The cloth fibers of the shirt were bent inward in the same manner. Traces of copper from a bullet such as Oswald used were found on the margins of this hole in the coat by the FBI, also indicating that it was a wound of entrance.
B. Bullet Hole in Back. The bullet hole in Kennedy's upper back, about two inches below the crease of his neck, and about two inches to the right of the midline.
C. Halo around Bullet Hole. The bullet hole had around it a faint but definite halo, or circumferential bruise, typical of a wound of entry from a high-speed bullet.
D. Spine Struck by Bullet. Tiny slivers of bone could be seen in the upper (rear) area of the bullet track on the A-P X-ray film of the right shoulder and neck area. Since no lateral X-ray film was taken of this area, it was possible to determine only that they lay near the high (rear) end of the bullet track, but not the exact distance they lay from the surface. They were near the tip of the transverse process of the cervical vertebrae, which the bullet obviously grazed. They are represented diagrammatically only. (See fig. 82.)
E. & F. Pleura and Lung Bruised. The autopsy report described a 5 cm bruise on the dome of the right pleura and also on the upper tip of the right lung, but no perforation of either, compatible with the passage of a high-speed bullet close above this point.
G. Air in Tissues. There were tiny traces of air, visible in the X-rays, in the tissues along the bullet track, near the hole in the trachea.
H. Hole in Trachea. There was a ragged hole in the right side of the trachea, seen by the surgeons at Parkland.
I. Tracheostomy. There was a gaping 6.5 cm transverse tracheostomy incision low on the neck where the Dallas surgeons had enlarged the bullet hole in order to insert a tracheostomy tube. (See fig. 80.)
J. Holes in Front of Shirt. There were 1 cm vertical slits in both sides of the overlapping portion of the shirt immediately below the collar band and touching it just below the collar button. (See fig. 84.)
K. Nick in Necktie. There was a nick or crease through only the outer layer of fabric of the lower left side of the knot, compatible with the passage of a spinning 6.5 mm bullet at high speed. A bloodstain extended downward from this nick. (See fig. 85.) (J. K. Lattimer, Resident and Staff Physician, May 1972)"
The Discovery Channel tried to replicate the "magic bullet" using surgical surrogates to create the closest possible simulation of the shooting short of actually shooting two people.
The simulation came very close indeed to the shooting in 1963.
No reasonable person still believes in a conspiracy once they actually examine the physical evidence.
This diagram of the path of test 6.5mm bullet fired from a Mannlicher Carcano demonstrates the terrific stability and penetrating ability of the projectile.
Compare it with that of a 5.56mm bullet used by the M16 rifle.
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Lets throw something else into the mix.What about the guy(can't remember his name but I think his surname began with a T) who was standing under the triple underpass on opposite side to Kennedys car and was caught on the chin by a fragment(bullet or kerb stone) which drew blood and later a fresh mark was found on kerb next to where he had been standing.Thoughts guys please
Steve
It is believed that the first bullet was fired when Oswald tracked the limousine in his sight and found his view obscured momentarily by the branches of a tree. Witnesses to the shooting claim to have seen something spark on the road near the car.
The second shot which impacted Kennedy's head fragmented and two pieces of the bullet were found in the front seat of the limo. The presumably landed there after striking the chrome frame of the windshield and cracked the inside of the laminated glass.
The dented windshield frame.
The crack on the inside of the windshield.
Fragments from either of these two shots could have cut Tague on the cheek where he was standing on Commerce Street near the triple underpass.
A mark on a kerb near Tague which may have come from a bullet or bullet fragment impact.
James Tague describes what happened to him during the shooting:
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First shot misses the car, you can see by both Kennedy and Connolly's reaction to it's sound.
Connally heard the shot come from behind him and over his right shoulder which strongly indicate the firing was coming from the 6th floor of the Book Depository. Howard Brennan who was sitting on a wall across the street looked up and saw Oswald firing from the window. Two coworkers of Oswald on the fifth floor heard three shots from the window directly over their heads. They heard the cycling of the bolt and sound of the bullet shells rattling on the floor.Second shot hits Kennedy in the throat from the front.
The autopsy doctors at Bethesda Naval Hospital, Maryland, dissected Kennedy's body including the neck and discovered the path of a bullet passing through Kennedy's neck from an entrance wound in the rear to the right of the spine which exited the base of the throat nicking the knot of his tie.
A. Bullet Hole in Back of Suit Collar and Shirt. The coat and shirt were probably humped up on the back of the President's neck (see fig. 83) when the first bullet struck him. The FBI found a punched-in round hole in the back of the coat consistent with a 6.5 mm bullet, with the broken cloth fibers bent inward, indicating that this was a wound of entry. The cloth fibers of the shirt were bent inward in the same manner. Traces of copper from a bullet such as Oswald used were found on the margins of this hole in the coat by the FBI, also indicating that it was a wound of entrance.
B. Bullet Hole in Back. The bullet hole in Kennedy's upper back, about two inches below the crease of his neck, and about two inches to the right of the midline.
C. Halo around Bullet Hole. The bullet hole had around it a faint but definite halo, or circumferential bruise, typical of a wound of entry from a high-speed bullet.
D. Spine Struck by Bullet. Tiny slivers of bone could be seen in the upper (rear) area of the bullet track on the A-P X-ray film of the right shoulder and neck area. Since no lateral X-ray film was taken of this area, it was possible to determine only that they lay near the high (rear) end of the bullet track, but not the exact distance they lay from the surface. They were near the tip of the transverse process of the cervical vertebrae, which the bullet obviously grazed. They are represented diagrammatically only. (See fig. 82.)
E. & F. Pleura and Lung Bruised. The autopsy report described a 5 cm bruise on the dome of the right pleura and also on the upper tip of the right lung, but no perforation of either, compatible with the passage of a high-speed bullet close above this point.
G. Air in Tissues. There were tiny traces of air, visible in the X-rays, in the tissues along the bullet track, near the hole in the trachea.
H. Hole in Trachea. There was a ragged hole in the right side of the trachea, seen by the surgeons at Parkland.
I. Tracheostomy. There was a gaping 6.5 cm transverse tracheostomy incision low on the neck where the Dallas surgeons had enlarged the bullet hole in order to insert a tracheostomy tube. (See fig. 80.)
J. Holes in Front of Shirt. There were 1 cm vertical slits in both sides of the overlapping portion of the shirt immediately below the collar band and touching it just below the collar button. (See fig. 84.)
K. Nick in Necktie. There was a nick or crease through only the outer layer of fabric of the lower left side of the knot, compatible with the passage of a spinning 6.5 mm bullet at high speed. A bloodstain extended downward from this nick. (See fig. 85.) (J. K. Lattimer, Resident and Staff Physician, May 1972)"Third shot, hits Kennedy in the back
Kennedy was shot in the back of the neck.
Fourth shot, hit's Connolly.
The trajectory of the bullet which struck Connally originated in the 6th floor corner window of the Texas School Book Depository.
The entrance wound in his back was elliptical indicating strongly that bullet had struck Kennedy before it struck Connally.
The locations of the wounds to Connally line up to support a trajectory originating in the 6th floor window.
Fifth shot hit's James Teague at the underpass.
It is likely that Tague was struck by a fragment of the first bullet that missed or a fragment from the bullet that struck Kennedy in the head.
These are two possibilities.
[IMG][/img]Sixth shot hits Kennedy in the head from the grassy knoll.
Kennedy was shot in the back of the head and the trajectory strongly indicates the fatal shot came from above and behind from the 6th floor window.
The massive wound in the top front right of the head is an obvious wound of exit.
The right hemisphere of Kennedy's brain was blown out of his skull.
This is the most likely trajectory of the shot.
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