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Motorbike insurance - tell us your quotes

  • 17-08-2005 3:48pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I'm trying to get a feel of what everyone else is being quoted for their insurance.

    I started off 3.5 years ago with Hibernian, who charged me €2,400 TPO on a Suzuki Marauder 125cc. First renewal - my insurance dropped €200. Second renewal (18 months ago), my insurance *went up* by that same €200 to €2,400. So that year, I switched to Carole Nash, at €1650 TPO. At that time, AON were quoting me similar to Hibernian, being one and the same. My last renewal with CN, my insurance dropped a piddling amount to €1,430 TPO.

    Now, I passed my test today, and gave CN a ring. I'm refunded €150. Em, ok.

    So as it stands:
    Age: 23
    Licence: Full
    NCB: 3 years
    Bike: Honda Varadero 125 (Group 2).

    Carole Nash: €1,270 TPO
    AON/Axa: €568 TPO (I rang them today - Fully comp is *still cheaper* than the above CN price).

    Has anyone else been getting quotes this good from Aon?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭dawballz


    No.
    Age: 20
    License: Prov
    NCB: 1yr
    Bike: Honda NSR 125 Restricted (Group 2)

    Carole Nash: won't quote me
    AON: 1916EUR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭rick_fantastic


    i pay 400€ full comp on my moped. im 22


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    22, Full Licence, 2yrs NCB, Suzuki Burgman 125 - 1700 from AON, couldnt believe when they said it to me. Its bloody awful how much bike insurance is but the risks are also high so its kind of understandable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 Angry_Man


    Had to sell my CBR250R (Group 5), as couldn't afford the 3k Hibernian were looking for last year.

    Got a NSR80 6 months ago (pathetic and common as muck, i know, but just about affordable) to get me round the place...

    So....
    Age: 22
    NCB: 4 years
    Licence: Full A

    CN: €1463 TPO (what an odd number???)
    AON: €900 TPO

    Given that TPO doesn't cover injury to me, can somebody please explain to me how I can do that much third party damage on an NSR80?
    Its bloody awful how much bike insurance is but the risks are also high so its kind of understandable

    KS, I assume that 1700 is TPO? If so then high risk to you shouldn't come into it. It's supposed to be representitive of the damage you could do to a third party...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭unklerosco


    24, full b licence.. Quote on a 50cc moped CN=€1150 AON=€550 Looking for one of those 125 mopeds so i can use it on the M50, new to this game so i've a lot of reading to do(aswell as learning)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭dawballz


    Fúck you're getting raped almost as much as me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 Angry_Man


    unklerosco wrote:
    Quote on a 50cc moped CN=€1150 AON=€550

    Yeah, a lot of my friends are getting quotes from AON that are half of the CN quote for the same bike....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    Angry_Man wrote:
    KS, I assume that 1700 is TPO? If so then high risk to you shouldn't come into it. It's supposed to be representitive of the damage you could do to a third party...

    Yeah it is only TPO, CN were 200 more expensive though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 Angry_Man


    Yeah it is only TPO, CN were 200 more expensive though.

    Not suprised, I've never heard of anyone getting a cheaper quote from CN than they did from AON...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,095 ✭✭✭✭omb0wyn5ehpij9


    21
    Male
    4 years no claims
    Full licence
    Living in Dublin
    Last renewal i was on a cbr250, AON wanted €2000ish, Nash wanted €2300
    Was planning on getting a SV650S at the time, AON wanted €7000, Nash wanted €2500

    So i went with Nash and when i got my SV last week just changed the bike on my policy

    All the quotes were TPO


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,548 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Angry_Man wrote:
    Given that TPO doesn't cover injury to me, can somebody please explain to me how I can do that much third party damage on an NSR80?
    Pillions :(
    Not suprised, I've never heard of anyone getting a cheaper quote from CN than they did from AON...
    Seems to vary a lot from person to person.
    I've been with CN for the last 7 years or so and every year since I've checked Hibernian when renewing. Hibernian were always at least 40% dearer for me. Last year they wanted more for TPO than CN wanted for TPFT. Go figure. I know people who had exactly the same thing, only with CN consistently dearer.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    I really want to start riding a bike. Looking at a BMW F650GS.

    32 year old male living in Dublin.
    Provisional License (almost)
    CN €2300ish fully comp.
    AON €1500ish fully comp.

    Not bad considering.

    MrP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭crazymonkey


    My last insurance age 25, 2 yrs ncb, nsr125 full power E600 with full licence, with CN,, Suzuki Sv s650 was E812


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    MrPudding wrote:
    I really want to start riding a bike. Looking at a BMW F650GS.

    32 year old male living in Dublin.
    Provisional License (almost)
    CN €2300ish fully comp.
    AON €1500ish fully comp.

    Not bad considering.

    MrP
    That's a pretty good price with AON. Should shoot down with 1st year's NCB and/or full licence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 Angry_Man


    ninja900 wrote:
    Pillions :(

    Yeah, true, that makes sense... Not that I'd be going anywhere fast 2 up on an NSR80, unless it was downhill :D
    BrynW wrote:
    Last renewal i was on a cbr250, AON wanted €2000ish, Nash wanted €2300

    Hmm, I got quoted €3000ish by Hibernian & AON six months ago for my cbr250R, broke my heart cause I just couldn't afford it....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭a_ominous


    Age: 30s
    Licence: Full
    NCB: 3 years
    Bike: Yamaha FJR1300 (CN group 14)
    RoSPA bronze (extra 20% discount)
    MAG discount 10%

    Carole Nash: €1500 FC
    AON/Axa: €1600 FC

    My old bike, a group 7 was going to cost about 1000 with CN and I wanted to get something bigger. Any of the 600s I looked at (Fazer, Hornet) were going to cost the same to insure as the FJR. That's mad Ted, this thing has >140BHP and is capable of 150mph.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,548 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Age 34, full licence 9 years, NCB 10 years, Rospa silver (10% discount), MAG discount.

    Bike: Kawasaki GPz900R

    Last year it was 780 euro TPFT (CN). This year it qualifies for classic insurance (15 years old) so it went down to 360 :D

    I just bought a Triumph Trophy 900 today though which isn't classic yet, so my premium will now shoot back up to what it was, if not more... ah well!

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭madrab


    23, full licence, 4 yr no claim
    1996 transalp, 600cc
    E3000 tpo from hibernian
    E1600 tpo from carole nash


    guess which one i went for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,050 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    26, M, D15.

    Provisional, 0 NCB.

    1982 Suzuki GSX250e.

    €965 TPO (CN).

    Luckily my house insurance all risks will cover F&T on this bike a it's only valued at around €650!

    From my many calls to Aon & CN getting quotes for allsorts of bikes under the 33HP and over the 125cc (For the A licence) the bike I bought was the cheapest. Aon wanted €1400 for the same bike. I believe CN prefer older riders and certainly prefer older bikes, for example CN wanted €1200 for an 88 Virago 250cc but €1700 for a 00 of the same bike! And that was TPO? (woman said the higher premium was because the bike, being newer was mre likely to be robbed and crashed by the thief, resulting in a 3rd party claim from the poor unfortunate the scumbag crashes into-very annoying as I wanted a 00 Virago but wasn't prepared to fork out that much insurance for a learner bike).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Sesshoumaru


    Licence: Provisional A
    Age: 25
    NCB: 0
    Bike: CBR250

    Aon:1400 TPO
    CN: 1700 TPO


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭sutty


    Licence: Provisional A (2nd)
    Age: 24
    NCB: 3
    Bike: Yamaha XVS250

    Aon:1700 TPO
    CN: 1790 TPO

    Thouse where my last insuance quoats. (From meath *cough*)
    I rang Aon during the summer to get an idea on how much I'd need come November. I was told 1,400 on my prov... Looking into getting my full at the moment but want to wait till I am sorted for my car one as well (learing to drive at the mo) As my work will write a little for both of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭j@utis


    Licence: Provisional A (1st)
    Age: 25
    Sex: F
    NCB: 0
    Bike: gonna be Honda NSR125R (has anybody seen it for sale smwh? :rolleyes: )

    AON: 650 TPO ;)
    CN: 1143 TPO :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Wanton


    just got quoted, going to wait till next year because of it.

    licence : prov a
    age: 24
    ncb : 0 ncb
    cbr 250

    aon - €2056 tpft (dropping to as little as €1400 if i do lessons with an approved instructor)


    was told if i was 25 it would have been €900 without lessons. so gonna wait the extra 6 months :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭madrab


    j@utis wrote:
    Licence: Provisional A (1st)
    Age: 25
    Sex: F
    NCB: 0
    Bike: gonna be Honda NSR125R (has anybody seen it for sale smwh? :rolleyes: )

    AON: 650 TPO ;)
    CN: 1143 TPO :eek:
    thats cheap for a group 7 bike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭sutty


    madrab wrote:
    thats cheap for a group 7 bike
    is an NSR125R a group 7 bike? I'm taking it she means to get a restricted one of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭j@utis


    sutty is right - NSR125R-estricted, group2 ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    seamus wrote:
    That's a pretty good price with AON. Should shoot down with 1st year's NCB and/or full licence.
    Yeah, I thought it was OK. I want to do the ROSPA training first. Also need to persuade the GF that I really need the bike.:D

    MrP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    MrPudding wrote:
    I want to do the ROSPA training first.MrP

    A little off topic here but has anyone done the training and how was it??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Eye


    good god, having read through the thread so far i must be the only one getting a good deal (if you could call it that) from carole nash ;)

    Gender: Male
    Age: 24
    Location: South Tipperary
    Licence: Provisional A
    NCB: 6 years
    Bike: Yamaha Dragstar XVS650 (group 5 afaik)

    Aon wanted just over €1420 for third party
    Carole Nash covered me for €1030 so i stayed with them as i have done for the past few years :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Garibaldi


    Carole Nash have also been good to me this year (Changed to them from Aon)

    Gender: Male
    Age: 33
    Location: Dublin
    Licence: Full
    NCB: 5 years
    Bike: BMW R1150GS (Group 11, I think)

    CN: €1149
    Aon: €1300, dropped to €1250 once I mentioned the CN quote, but they refused to drop any further, stating that CN didn't have the same risk pool blah blah blah.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭cranoo


    Company: CN
    male: 40
    Ncb : 3yrs
    Location:wicklow
    Bikes: Kawasaki VN 1500 for the Rallies :D suzuki gs500e for the Hack to work
    Tpft: E480 :D:D:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭madrab


    Eye wrote:
    good god, having read through the thread so far i must be the only one getting a good deal (if you could call it that) from carole nash ;)

    Gender: Male
    Age: 24
    Location: South Tipperary
    Licence: Provisional A
    NCB: 6 years
    Bike: Yamaha Dragstar XVS650 (group 5 afaik)

    Aon wanted just over €1420 for third party
    Carole Nash covered me for €1030 so i stayed with them as i have done for the past few years :)

    last year on my bros (400cc group 5) i was paying €833 tpo from hibernian


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,550 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Garibaldi wrote:
    Carole Nash have also been good to me this year (Changed to them from Aon)

    Gender: Male
    Age: 33
    Location: Dublin
    Licence: Full
    NCB: 5 years
    Bike: BMW R1150GS (Group 11, I think)

    CN: €1149
    Aon: €1300, dropped to €1250 once I mentioned the CN quote, but they refused to drop any further, stating that CN didn't have the same risk pool blah blah blah.
    Jesus, they must make it up as they go along...
    I'm the same stats as you, with a 1200GS, my AON premium is about the same as your quote (~1,350), but get this, CN were quoting me more than 2K. Mad. Even Hibernian were offering comp at 1.7K.

    Gender: Male
    Age: 33
    Location: Dublin
    Licence: Full + 2 points
    NCB: 5 years
    Bike: 2005 BMW R1200GS
    Insurance: Fully comp
    CN: 2K+
    AON: 1,350
    Hib (now dead): 1,750


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭Tomohawk


    Gender: Male
    Age: 37
    Location: Dublin
    Licence: Full A
    NCB: 2 years
    Bike: Vespa PX 200 (x2)
    Garaged

    CN: 565 TPO for my two black beauties.
    AON: tbc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Garibaldi


    They really do seem to just pull numbers out of their collective ass, alright. That said, when I mentioned to them that I was considering trading up to the 1200 and wanted a quote, I could practically hear the "ch-ching" as the numbers took a severe jump up. My GS is a 2001 (positively ancient :rolleyes: ) and it's a combo of age of machine plus the maximum power output that (they said) determined the bulk of the premium. Some minor changes for alarm, garaged, which way the wind is blowing at the time you call etc. To paraphrase Tom Arnold: Insurers. Can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em. :(
    Jesus, they must make it up as they go along...
    I'm the same stats as you, with a 1200GS, my AON premium is about the same as your quote (~1,350), but get this, CN were quoting me more than 2K. Mad. Even Hibernian were offering comp at 1.7K.

    Gender: Male
    Age: 33
    Location: Dublin
    Licence: Full + 2 points
    NCB: 5 years
    Bike: 2005 BMW R1200GS
    Insurance: Fully comp
    CN: 2K+
    AON: 1,350
    Hib (now dead): 1,750


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,550 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    They did mention that they were trying to do a 'deal' with BMW to reduce premiums for BMW bikes, so I could expect a much lower premium if I give them a call next year.. (Carole Nash - that is)..

    Do you post under the same alias on UKGS'er?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Garibaldi


    Indeed I do. That said, my posts on there have been severely curtailed since some directly related unpleasantness with Joe Duffy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Licence: Provisional A

    Age: 19

    NCB: 2

    Bike: Honda Varadero 125

    Location : Kildare

    AON Bike Test passed - 35% discount

    Aon: €1150 TPO

    CN: Wont insure me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭Tomohawk


    Originally posted by myself

    Gender: Male
    Age: 37
    Location: Dublin
    Licence: Full A
    NCB: 2 years
    Bike: Vespa PX 200 (x2)
    Garaged

    CN: 565 TPO for my two black beauties.
    AON: tbc

    AON have given me a price today of 467 TPO :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭dawballz


    j@utis wrote:
    sutty is right - NSR125R-estricted, group2 ;)

    That's only if it is year 2002 or newer.
    AON wont accept them as restricted unless they're 02 or newer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭j@utis


    dawballz wrote:
    That's only if it is year 2002 or newer.
    AON wont accept them as restricted unless they're 02 or newer.

    the AON guy spoke about '01 model or newer. feel bit confused now :confused::confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭saobh_ie


    Gender: Male
    Age: 23
    Location: Dublin
    Licence: Full A
    NCB: 1 year
    Bike: Suzuki Bandit 600, Group 5

    Aon - TPO: 1956 (with 10% discount for training thing) :mad:
    Aon - FC: Double it and add a few hundred.

    Carole Nash - TPO: 3500 :eek:
    Carole Nash - FC: One Million Dollars!!!! Mhuahahaha Mhuahahaha

    Mhuahahahaha MhuahahahahaMhuahahahaha
    Mhuahahahaharhar *choke*

    :mad:

    Okay. It's actually pretty good. The Aon quote for this year. I'm on a bigger bike and getting a 1500 euro reduction in my premium.

    I still want to burn out thier offices though...

    ...what, they're insured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭deecom


    Ok somewhat chuffed with my renewal, Ducati Monster 620s, 1238. Thats fully comp. 24, with 5 years NCB. :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Gender: Male
    Age: 22
    Location: Kilkenny
    Licence: Provisional A
    NCB: 1 year
    Bike: Suzuki SV650s, Restricted, New

    Aon - TPO: 3006
    Aon - FC: : Scared to ask

    Carole Nash - : Said i'd need at least 2 years NCB before they'd even consider dealing with me (sounds slightly illegal, refusing to quote me 'n all ,but hey, it's Ireland so what do ya expect?)

    Strange thing is that i currently have a CBR125r (piece of **** frankly) an Hibernian where charging me 2650 tpo on that so the Aon price doesn't seem so bad for a much better bike (which is a sad thing to have to say).

    On a side note, saobh_ie, would yo be the saobh that used to frequent the CMP forums? Just curious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 346 ✭✭Cassiel


    Gender: Male
    Age: 31
    Location: Outside Dublin
    NCB: 1 year
    Bike: 04 Honda CBF600s restricted to 33bhp, honest.

    AON: €844 fully comp.
    Carole Nash: Never bothered getting a quote this time, never matched AON the previous two years (out quoted by several hundreds).

    Last year: Honda CB400sf €540 TPO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭frodi


    Male, 44 years, 4 years NCB, Full A licence, Dublin
    At renewal last May I had a 100cc Neos moped. AON/AXA , €350 for year comp.

    2 weeks ago traded up to a '02 CB500 extra €323 from AON. (€400 extra for a full year by my reckoning, €720 odd for full year on CB500)

    Rang Carol Nash they quoted €525 TPF&T. They have a new insurer now who will give cover but not for pillions. At this rate I'll be switching next renewal.

    Slight aside, has anybody any opinions on this cover without pillions given that all the increases have been blamed on un-insured pillions. Is it legal or what?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭saobh_ie


    Micky, Yeah. =] CBR125. *spits*

    At least they're not looking for the price of the bike to insure you TPO.

    9000 to go fully comp on a 3500 bike... with a huge excess. Get lost.

    I must stroll back over to CMP, see what's happening. I've been hanging out on IBF (link below). Good crowd there, and they're on this Island, check it out.

    They don't laugh or wave thier 400 pounds CBR600RR 17 year old with 0 ncb premiums in your faces. "60pounds on an NSR125! I'm being robbed?!?!?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    male
    24
    3 years ncb and full licence
    rvf400, apriliars250 and suzuki gsxr600 was 1727 euro this year tpo
    not too bad i suppose with 3 bikes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,548 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    frodi wrote:
    Rang Carol Nash they quoted €525 TPF&T. They have a new insurer now who will give cover but not for pillions.
    Sorry but that's completely untrue. Insurers legally have to cover pillions, even if you're not licensed to carry one. A third party (the pillion) claim has to be paid out even if the rider is breaking the law.

    This was brought in by the EU motor insurance directive in the 1990s and was used as an excuse to hike up premiums, we probably would be better off with the old situation where a pillion rode at their own risk, but there you go.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭frodi


    ninja900 wrote:
    Sorry but that's completely untrue. Insurers legally have to cover pillions, even if you're not licensed to carry one. A third party (the pillion) claim has to be paid out even if the rider is breaking the law.

    This was brought in by the EU motor insurance directive in the 1990s and was used as an excuse to hike up premiums, we probably would be better off with the old situation where a pillion rode at their own risk, but there you go.

    Have to say that I thought this a bit suspect but didn't bother following up as I wasn't taking the policy. It seems that CN now have two insurers with one looking to put restrictions in lieu of lower prices. TBH I don't mind as I am v. unlikely to be carrying a pillion at any time. Could be something like if you have a crash with a pillion on board then the policy is void. I'd love to see some legal brains tease it out.


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