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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    Gaudizeit wrote: »
    Christ almighty. Time to rip open the couches!

    You are unlikely to find one, there was only a handful of test coins made to calibrate phone booth's and things like that. But there was strict orders to bring them back, but of course a few went missing.

    http://www.irishcoins.com/?id=165&banner=1


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 Viper Benny


    I have a 10 pound ploughman in very good condition and was wondering if it would be worth much


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭bycikas


    hey guys, Snip: Read the charter!Also interested in trading coins for coins :rolleyes: and... if anyone can give details on locations where i could buy some coins and paper money , would be grateful. I'm not Irish, so have no idea where too look for :confused:


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    bycikas wrote: »
    hey guys, looking for Irish (and other) coins and notes to trade or buy them from you. Just pm me.
    Also interested in trading coins for coins :rolleyes: and... if anyone can give details on locations where i could buy some coins and paper money , would be grateful. I'm not Irish, so have no idea where too look for :confused:

    Spring Coin & Stamp Fair Sunday 17th April 2011 RDS

    Dublin Coin Auction Wednesday 20th April 6.30 2011
    Viewing from Monday.
    Herman & Wilkinsons Rathmines Rd. Dublin 6


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭gb19815


    Hi i have 8 of these coins 2006 samuel beckett fine gold proof coin anyone know what i could get for these coins?


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    gb19815 wrote: »
    Hi i have 8 of these coins 2006 samuel beckett fine gold proof coin anyone know what i could get for these coins?

    About 60 Euro each, though probably not from a dealer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭gb19815


    Thanks for the reply blade do u reckon i would get 60each possibly on ebay?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭Mylesie


    gb19815 wrote: »
    Thanks for the reply blade do u reckon i would get 60each possibly on ebay?
    Dont know if this is of any help?

    Designer: Emmet Mullins Mint: B.H. Mayer's Kunstprageanstalt GmbH - Germany Value: €20 Alloy: Au Quantity: 20,000 Quality: Proof Issued: 02.05.2006 Diameter: 13.92mm Weight: 1.24g


    Samuel Beckett Birth 100th Anniversary Designer: Emmet Mullins Mint: B.H. Mayer's Kunstprageanstalt GmbH - Germany Value: €10 Alloy: Ag 925 Quantity: 35,000 Quality: Proof Issued: 02.05.2006 Diameter: 38.61mm Weight: 28.28g


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    gb19815 wrote: »
    Thanks for the reply blade do u reckon i would get 60each possibly on ebay?

    You should be able to get 60 each on ebay but don't put them all up there together. If they aren't selling, lower it to 55. You could try Advert.ie too. 60 is a very fair price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭jamiecoins


    bycikas wrote: »
    hey guys, Snip: Read the charter!Also interested in trading coins for coins :rolleyes: and... if anyone can give details on locations where i could buy some coins and paper money , would be grateful. I'm not Irish, so have no idea where too look for :confused:


    why not try adverts.ie theres a whole section on coins and notes


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    Found a handful of the 2000 millennium coins. Are they likely to be worth much more than face value?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Found a handful of the 2000 millennium coins. Are they likely to be worth much more than face value?

    Only on Adverts.ie :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭sin0city


    Hello,

    Would anyone be able to tell me if this is worth anything?

    Dug up in Drumcondra.

    Thanks in advance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 gerard974


    hello
    i think that is one penny 1872 from UK and in this grade the value is 6 US dollars ,the mintage is 8 495 000
    best regards Gerard


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭sin0city


    Thanks and thanks for the year correction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    sin0city wrote: »
    Hello,

    Would anyone be able to tell me if this is worth anything?

    Dug up in Drumcondra.

    Thanks in advance.

    I only collect coins in a very casual way but I find a quick check on eBay soon gives an accurate picture of values - as opposed to catalogue prices. Sadly, in the condition that your coin is in I would think that it is virtually worthless. Here is an example in far superior condition: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-VICTORIA-PENNY-1872-/160706709916?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item256addc99c#ht_500wt_1202


  • Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭hayser


    Does anyone know if any of the banks or charities in Ireland accept old Irish coins?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    hayser wrote: »
    Does anyone know if any of the banks or charities in Ireland accept old Irish coins?

    I think most charities still do accept them. The only bank that will take them now is the central bank, but AFAIK they have to be bagged in the original denominations, like 100x pennies etc.

    There's a coin fair on at the RDS this weekend, I'm sure a few dealers would buy them from you too. Are they decimal or pre decimal?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 willa25


    I have just come across an old irish half penny dated 1690.one side shows sow and piglets and the other side shows a harp.The odd thing about this coin is that 1690 is punched right across the surface of the harp side of it. I can't find any picture of it . Is it a fake. Usually the date would be written on one side from what I understand. saor stat is one side of the harp and eireann is other side.Anyone any ideas?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,331 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    willa25 wrote: »
    I have just come across an old irish half penny dated 1690.one side shows sow and piglets and the other side shows a harp.The odd thing about this coin is that 1690 is punched right across the surface of the harp side of it. I can't find any picture of it . Is it a fake. Usually the date would be written on one side from what I understand. saor stat is one side of the harp and eireann is other side.Anyone any ideas?

    It is a defaced Irish pre-decimal ha'penny. Loyalists in NI used to punch southern coins with things like 'UVF' and obviously '1690' (Battle of the Boyne) falls into the same category.

    Saorstat Eireann on either side of the harp means it is from the years 1928-37 but as the '1690' is stamped across the harp, it has probably obliterated the original date which was split across the centre of the harp e.g. '19' on the left side and '28' on the right. When 'Saorstat Eireann' was replaced by 'Eire' in 1938, the date was struck down the right side of the harp in larger numbers with 'Eire' to the left of the harp.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28 willa25


    Thanks for that.
    Do you know if it is worth anything?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    willa25 wrote: »
    Thanks for that.
    Do you know if it is worth anything?

    Curiosity value only. :)

    Here's a defaced British 50 pence piece on eBay. The asking price is steep but you could watch it and see if it sells.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Irish-Republican-Army-defaced-coin-/280833872838?pt=UK_Collectables_Memorabila_RL&hash=item416300d3c6#ht_500wt_1156


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    Curiosity value only. :)

    Here's a defaced British 50 pence piece on eBay. The asking price is steep but you could watch it and see if it sells.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Irish-Republican-Army-defaced-coin-/280833872838?pt=UK_Collectables_Memorabila_RL&hash=item416300d3c6#ht_500wt_1156

    Well actually the Republican ones are scarcer because the practice was carried out much more so by Loyalists. Still though, not worth a whole lot for these common stamped ones, but I've seen some crackers with very intricate work done on them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,331 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    willa25 wrote: »
    Thanks for that.
    Do you know if it is worth anything?

    Considering you could probably buy an undamaged Saorstat Eireann ha'penny for a few Euro and stamp it yourself, it's worth nothing.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    coylemj wrote: »
    Considering you could probably buy an undamaged Saorstat Eireann ha'penny for a few Euro and stamp it yourself, it's worth nothing.

    I'd imagine you'd remove the patina if you attempted that. Even with the cupro nickel coins of the 70's/80's, 50p 10p etc. you'd spot a modern stamp if you had a close look at it. Though I do know some fecker who can add a convincing fake patina.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,331 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Blade wrote: »
    I'd imagine you'd remove the patina if you attempted that. Even with the cupro nickel coins of the 70's/80's, 50p 10p etc. you'd spot a modern stamp if you had a close look at it. Though I do know some fecker who can add a convincing fake patina.

    I don't understand what you're getting at - what difference does it make if the '1690' is punched into the coin in 1969 or 2012?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    coylemj wrote: »
    I don't understand what you're getting at - what difference does it make if the '1690' is punched into the coin in 1969 or 2012?

    It makes a big difference because one is an original political countermark and the other is a modern forgery of same. There's people who collect countermarked coins and even books cataloging them. The practice started as far back as the Roman times. There's a dealer here in Ireland who specialises in the Northern ones. Collectors don't want modern fakes, they want originals. Some countermarks can be extremely rare and valuable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,331 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Blade wrote: »
    It makes a big difference because one is an original political countermark and the other is a modern forgery of same.

    How can anyone tell the difference? It's not like we're dealing with professional engravers. These people punched slogans and dates with political significance into coins, presumably with basic workshop equipment. I can't see how anyone could tell the difference between an 'original' and a 'modern forgery'.

    I saw a two bob piece back in the 1970s with 'UVF' punched into it, I'm pretty sure I could reproduce it with my basic household tools.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Blade


    coylemj wrote: »
    How can anyone tell the difference? ... I'm pretty sure I could reproduce it with my basic household tools.

    As I said in my second last post, the patina. You try stamping anything into a chocolate brown toned copper penny and the bright original copper colour will show up like a sore thumb. Even a two bob from the 70's will have a certain amount of patina if it's been in circulation and striking into it's metal will show a brighter colour. It is of course a lot harder to tell with a cupro nickel coin of the 70's and a certain amount of fake patina can be added, this added with the fact that there's so many around means they aren't worth very much. But try this with an older coin, especially well patinated copper and you'll see the difference.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 selfmade1979


    Hello


    I have a collection of 7 eire coins that date 1986. They are the halfpenny, fivepence, penny, ten pence, two pence, twenty pence and fifty pence.. they are in a green folder like package that is unopened.. I'm told that they have good value.. Does anyone have any information about this collection?


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