Amber Snow Alert

ninebeanrows

Longfield wrote:

1 or 2 is a long way from days when coast max temps were -3c ..

When snow fell then it settled, if when snow falls on sat/sun./mon it will be wet slushy and unlikely to amount to much above 2-3 cm of wet snow at lower levals.

In the charts i posted above... the snow was crunchy and light !! and snowballs didnt hurt they crumbled in the hand!!

And they will next week
From Tuesday it should be cold enough for powder snow!

CerebralCortex

Weathercheck wrote:

And they will next week
From Tuesday it should be cold enough for powder snow!

It's hard to believe it is going to snow I was sweating with the heat of the sun today and it would be just depressing if it decided to snow because it just means its going to piss rain or something afterwards. I don't know too much about meteorology.

Longfield

Longfield wrote:

1 or 2 is a long way from days when coast max temps were -3c ..

When snow fell then it settled, if when snow falls on sat/sun./mon it will be wet slushy and unlikely to amount to much above 2-3 cm of wet snow at lower levals.

In the charts i posted above... the snow was crunchy and light !! and snowballs didnt hurt they crumbled in the hand!!

I roger that, there was ice on the beaches, light icing of the seas.

ninebeanrows

Hi your going to get an awful shock then..

This will be by far the hardest cold spell of the winter lasting
more than 7 day with daytime maxima reaching 4c tops nationwide.
Hard frosts with snow especially in the east, we arent talking
about a 1 day snap and then rain no were talking about more than
a week's freeze

Ray777

Met Eireann haven't forecast a great deal of snow. In recent experience, I've found them to be pretty accurate. So I'm afraid, I'll have to go with what the state meteorological agency says, rather than the opinions of some armchair meteorologists on the internet

Oh well

Rosser

I've got a feeling you guys maybe right it's pretty cold out tonight

ninebeanrows

I'd just like to say i'm no armchair meteorologist and that
the Irish Met Office are going to have egg on their face
if you think they arent forecasting snow

It's this that makes me mad seeing the Irish Met giving
a false forecast that leads normal punters off guard

Crazy considering were entering by far the coldest
spell of the winter with snow likely as early as tomorrow
night!

It really makes me mad seeing such forecasts being presented
to the Irish Public being simply so poor

Harsh but i think we all must admit tonights forecasts
have been desperate?

Ray777

Ray777 wrote:

Met Eireann haven't forecast a great deal of snow. In recent experience, I've found them to be pretty accurate. So I'm afraid, I'll have to go with what the state meteorological agency says, rather than the opinions of some armchair meteorologists on the internet

Oh well

Although admittedly technology wasnt as it is today...but as I was probably not quite as mad as wcheck at the time but I do remember it as if it was yesterday... on a certain wenesday night in january 1982 they fore casted snow with some drifting on the high ground for munster and south Leinster after the nine o clock news.
It was already snowing good powder snow where I was at the time.
It didnt stop untill lunchtime saturday... and I mean it didnt stop at all, it was continous non stop for 4 days and nights untill it was piled up so high my aunty had to climb out her upstairs bedroom window to get out of the house...

So they do sometimes underestimate...

ninebeanrows

And BTW you can hit me with as many eggs as you want
if there has been no snow in Dublin by Monday Evening

Rosser

5 day weather forecast from the BBC says Weatherman is on the money...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml

Better get to B&Q and buy a shovel for all that snow!

Rosser

Apologies Weathercheck & Earthman

ninebeanrows

Although those BBC 5 dayers look good their usually
useless They dont even show any precipitation for
Tomorrow, Sunday and Monday and i can guarantee
you'll see some precipitation on all those days

Precipitation will fall as snow BTW

Weathercheck

Weathercheck wrote:

And BTW you can hit me with as many eggs as you want
if there has been no snow in Dublin by Monday Evening

does that include Dublin ohio ?

Rosser

what's the chances of another 1982? I remember it being so cold that ice formed on the inside of some of the windows of our house!

Slim Rosser as that was January and this is nearly march.

Scubadevils

Was told to watch a DVD tonight and get away from the computer!

Seems things have got more interesting for the next few days?

Ray777

Yes, the Met Office made a monumental cock-up in 1982, but I think they've learned from that. Their normal style nowadays would be to forecast loads of snow at first, but getting closer and closer to the 'event', they start forecasting less and less. They seem to go for 'worst case scenario', so that the farmers, etc don't get caught out. I honestly just can't see them missing out on 10cm of snow. For example, if we were going to get 10cm of snow in the coming days, Eagleton, Fleming, Cusack and co, would be telling us we're going to get 20cm

My guess is that the east coast will get a light dusting of snow (couple of mm at best).

billy the squid

wetterzentralle is borked , only accessible through the IP address

http://217.160.75.104/

billy the squid

3 Day Outlook:
Sunday night will be mainly dry and cold, with clear spells and light to moderate northerly breezes. Widespread sharp ground frost will develop and some icy patches may form on roads. On Monday, cloud will increase during the morning and outbreaks of rain, or possibly sleet, will spread from the north. During the evening, however, drier conditions will develop and cloud will tend to break. Moderate, northerly winds will veer northeast with the clearance and it will turn even colder. Wintry showers will affect northern and eastern counties overnight, with snow in places, and sharp to severe ground frost will develop in most areas. There will be a high risk of icy roads as a result. It will then continue very cold right up to next weekend with brisk, mainly easterly winds prevailing. Western counties will be mainly dry with broken cloud but other areas will have wintry showers; the showers will be most frequent near Irish Sea coasts and will fall as sleet or snow much of the time, especially in midweek. Serious night frosts will occur also and untreated roads will be hazardous.

from met eireann. Like i said earlier, chance of snow in the east but the roads will be like glass everywhere else.

Ray777

Ray777 wrote:

My guess is that the east coast will get a light dusting of snow (couple of mm at best).

Met Éireann started their Ramping this morning in full gear.
Dr Aidan Nulty at 755 on Radio one said bitter Easterly winds and an increasing threat of snow showers in the East and temperatures around zero.
He said the cold snap is going to last untill the end of the week.

By the way I'm expecting a lot more than a few mm's in Eastern counties from this during the course of the week.
There may well be several cm's before the week is out and thats at sea level.
Regular readers of this forum will know I dont say stuff like this too often.
In fact I usually say the opposite, but I've seen the charts and where the air is coming from and know what the Irish sea is capable of with polar air over it so thats where I'm coming from on this.

It will be a hit and miss affair though, some will get a lot and some will get little.

Where I differ with w.check is there will be nothing exciting untill monday onwards.

Darwin

Yes, metcheck are showing precipitation early Monday morning for some eastern counties, but theyr.net are showing little or no precipitation at all ?

ninebeanrows

Who is up for Monday...Snowy Monday??

Well Eastern counties should be but the west will
have to deal with sleety crap.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn484.gif

Totals of accumalated snow should reach 15cm's or more in the east after that

ninebeanrows

Snow flurries should start to affect the east from
tonight and continue through Sunday. Accumaltions
of 1cm or 2 are possibly by tomorrow morning!

Scubadevils

Will we have Monday morning disruptions so?

ninebeanrows

The flood gates to heaven open.......
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn782.gif

i mean Siberia... :eek:

ninebeanrows

Felixdhc wrote:

Will we have Monday morning disruptions so?

In Eastern counties yes Heavy snow will arrive early morning 3am

Might turn a bit wet by 6am before turning back to dusty snow

ninebeanrows

This little run through shows how the mild air nearly makes
it to the east but doesnt

Sunday mighnight
http://expert.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/geturl/daten/profi/en/basis06.19022005/rart_05022100_1906.gif?d760c8a9ddfd71592e411fb5769d1e7a

Monday 6am - Very close - heavy snow in the east
http://expert.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/geturl/daten/profi/en/basis06.19022005/rart_05022106_1906.gif?e9ce36d3021b6d9f3b755cc2c01aca72

Monday 12am - Cold air pushes any mild intrusion back
http://expert.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/geturl/daten/profi/en/basis06.19022005/rart_05022112_1906.gif?6d4d0600c7d73ccfbe936a93713b06b8

Everythings there for one hell of a dumping in the east..
Reminds me eerily of one day in late February 2001 :eek:

Scubadevils

How come met eireann are still going for rain / sleet on Monday? I would have thought by now they would indicate snow if it was on the way, by your reckoning its less than 48hrs away now.

ninebeanrows

Abit from the latest UKMO warning that concerns us

DURING MONDAY A MORE
GENERAL AREA OF SLEET OR SNOW WILL RUN ACROSS SOME WESTERN PARTS.
THE EXTENT OF THIS IS UNCERTAIN, BUT NORTHERN IRELAND MOST AT RISK.
IT IS ON MONDAY THAT THE HIGHEST RISK OF DISRUPTION TO TRANSPORT IS
EXPECTED, AS SNOW AND ICE ON UNTREATED ROADS BRING DANGEROUS DRIVING
CONDITIONS.

FOR ENQUIRIE

ninebeanrows

Felixdhc wrote:

How come met eireann are still going for rain / sleet on Monday? I would have thought by now they would indicate snow if it was on the way, by your reckoning its less than 48hrs away now.

I honestly dont know Felix, it's shocking really although as i say
the snow is on a knife edge but ground temps at 0-1c and dew points
below freezing will swing the pendulum in our favour for snow. They
wont mention it until maybe tonight or even tomorrow but hell
they will menton it