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Could Fine Gael be pushed to the right?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,668 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's a coalition so no party gets everything they want. FF dragged the budget to the left.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,309 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    The same FG that promised to scrap USC? That FG?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭Fanny Wank


    I'm still waiting for the bonfire of quangos. Any day now......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Everlong1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,309 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    You proved my point with Pat Rabbitte and FG Lite.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    On Count 18 the gap was about 6000. But on Count 18 he was only 3,000 votes behind. He ended up behind 13000 on Count 19. Many pundits expected him to be elected eventually but with PRSTV its about the order of eliminations. The valid poll was 376,720 so percentage wise the difference was small as a share of the total valid poll, though large as a share of AOR and Boylan's individual votes.

    One of the reasons he didnt win was that the transfer patterns were not strictly Left→Left or Right→Right all the time. Daly transferred about 7000 votes to Boylan, and Steenson transferred about 737 votes to Daly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,293 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Any pundit paying any attention knew the last seat was between Cuffe and O Riordain many, many counts earlier.

    The Dublin area count last year that was legitimately unpredictable was Hutch/Sherlock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,695 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Irish people aren't anti-immigration but I'd say most are concerned about the type of immigration that we have seen in recent years. I don't think anyone had too many problems with the Polish plumber.

    When it comes to asylum seekers the worry is that many of them will end up dependent on the state and you get the fear of crime as well.

    Without a doubt there is a large right of center vote in Ireland currently homeless. You'd think FG should be the best party to tap those voters and maybe they are waking up to it now.

    Still actions speak louder than words. We shouldn't have people loitering in the country when they've been ordered to leave.

    Another thing that confuses me is are they still getting some form of social protection after being told to leave, are they in some form state accomodation? An obvious push would be to cut all receipts off, maybe not immediately but after a few weeks to encourage a quick exit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,826 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    As an FG member, its a matter of great regret that the announcement of such a policy by the Kenny government in 2011, was never followed through.

    Yes, it was borne out of the economic collapse of the time, but the reasoning behind it, ie to save money, is still valid.

    There are approximately 500 state agencies, authorities and non-commercial public entities under the aegis of the State.

    Some of them are so tiny, that they have larger Boards than they have staff numbers.

    Honestly, I could sit down for a week and write a business case for ridding the public administration, by both abolition and amalgamation, of 100 of those at least.

    And I'd begin with Health.

    Health Protection Surveillance Centre

    Health Information and Quality Authority

    Health Products Regulatory Authority

    Health Research Board

    National Poisons Information Centre

    National Treatment Purchase Fund

    National Drug Treatment

    Assisted Human Reproduction Regulatory Authority

    Health and Social Care Professionals Council

    National Cancer Registry Ireland

    Thats just 10 off the top. All of those should become a single larger Health Standards Authority, or even better, statutory offices of the Department of Health or HSE.

    A bonfire is exactly whats needed.



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