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Escaping renting

  • 04-12-2024 07:29PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭


    I know some one who purchased in Cavan to escape renting it was as ll they could afford they had a huge commute they eventually got a job a bit closer but not much. The job they has no flexibility it's customer facing.

    If someone lives in Dublin in their 30s and the maximum mortgage they could get would be 200k and has some flexibility why would they not suck up the 1.45 hour commuit to have security.

    Why would they not do it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭littlefeet


    Not saying they should have to do that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭phonypony


    They might not do it due to the 3.5 hour daily round trip commute and the cost that incurs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭littlefeet


    So leave themselves at the mercy of renting or staying in their childhood bedroom for ever.

    Commuting by bus is not a deal breaker cost wise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭phonypony


    I'd imagine €18.50 day return Cavan to Dublin would be a deal-breaker for many. That's over 4k a year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,304 ✭✭✭bigroad


    Thats very good value ,compared to running a car up and down the same road and no driving stress.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 foolhardy


    Why should someone have to commute 3.5 hours to their job? If people are getting up and going to work, no matter what their job is, they should be able to afford to buy a home within an hour of their place of employment. Our cities are occupied by generations of people who have never worked or contributed to society in any meaningful way……..maybe they should be relocated to Cavan and allow actual employees access to accommodation?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    I regularly commute by public transport from one Dublin suburb to another. It takes 1h20 in the morning and 2h+ in the evening despite being only 15km. So that commute time seems doable for secure housing. But is there really much available for 200k in Cavan these days? And is that a realistic commute time or is it actually longer in reality?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭watchclocker


    Because comfort

    People's priorities are different, to some that would be the most miserable existence, hours spent in car, paying for hotel or looking for bed in someone else's house when they want to go out with their friends

    If kids in the mix then having to leave them for a much longer period or else drag them to Dublin with you, where do they do their sports, how can you be there with them

    Not saying it's not a great option for some, I know a couple who did offaly and were happy to but it's about quality of life which differs person to person

    Owning a pile of bricks isn't the be all and end all for everyone

    (All said from the point of view of a pile of bricks owner in Dublin so can only guess reasons)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Depending on the part of Dublin you're working in you could much longer with traffic. Plus a walk from your car or bus to your workplace.

    Almost 1 HR 45 from M50 N2 exit alone to Cavan means could be nearly 3 hrs in reality door to door in bad traffic.

    You're looking at 5 or 6 hours commuting every day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,879 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    I bought in Drogheda for similar reasons. Dublin-born and bred but just couldn't afford to live there. I was working in Clondalkin but it was sometimes taking me 3 hours each way to get to and from work! I've since moved to another company in north Dublin but it's still about 2 hours each way door-to-door. I don't drive so it's all by train. Thankfully I WFH two days a week so that helps to lighten the load.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭rowantree18


    I commuted from Malahide to Crumlin for a few years. It was a 9-5ish type of thing. Regularly 2 hours each way by bus or by car. M50 totally static. Then a fight for parking. I tried loads of routes. All the same. Went 8-6 4days a week after negotiation. Helped by maybe 20 minutes each way. Having moved both house and job, I'm a very predictable 50 minutes each way with parking. Bliss. Inter-Dublin commuting can be worse than anything. I've a friend commutes Newry to North Dublin industrial estate - went north for cheaper housing. In work easier than friends commuting in the city.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    For inter Dublin commuting it's where a bike comes in handy. Some people just love their comfort too much they wouldn't entertain walking or cycling. There are also another element who would look down on people getting public transport. But its a whole other debate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭L Grey


    They should have waited.

    The incoming government are going to build a billion houses an hour so it will all sorted.

    Post edited by L Grey on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭littlefeet


    Nobody should have to do a mad commute, but if renting for ever or remaining a child for ever or if they have no family support at least it's security.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭littlefeet


    It wasn't Cavan town it's more Meath Cavan border, Navan was the first choice but that got too expensive when they went to buy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭watchclocker


    In my last job I was always open to cycling to work and did sometimes on the days where I wouldn't sweat too much or get soaked but getting into business attire off the bike without a wash was always a bit off putting

    But that assumes you're near work to begin with where the post is more about commuting from far far away



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭watchclocker


    Talking about a new train line to Navan now, that'll push the pricetag up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭watchclocker


    Yeh don't disagree with you, just saying reasons one might choose a different option to another

    Don't know how to multi quote sorry!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭seanrambo87


    Maybe cycling is for you my man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    LLoad of BS. That is an old chestnut all political parties bring up every so often around Navan. The line is solely in use by the Tara mines and they do not share their toys. Its to distract from other political things going on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,321 ✭✭✭SteM


    15km within Dublin? Get an electric bike. 45ish minute cycle and easy as pie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭watchclocker


    Ah fair enough I haven't read much on it as it's wouldn't be on radar really



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,130 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    My 47 minute train on the main East Coast train line out of London is £87 each way or £174 a day.

    Thankfully I'm not needed in London all the time but when I do I have to go last minute at peak times so have to pay full price.

    e18.50 is a bargain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,570 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Build an apartment in your folks garden if you can, far better if you have side access ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Lived in Navan a few years back. There would be 3 or 4 train trips a day from the mine to be exported for processing. Definately not up for sharing. It depends on how the mine is doing. Some times it is roaring and other times it is shut down depending on the price and extraction costs for lead and Zinc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,879 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    The plan is to extend the Dunboyne/M3 Parkway line to Navan to go to Dublin via Clonsilla and the Maynooth line. Whether it'll actually happen, who knows? It was supposed to be done by 2015.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 Vagabond Days


    The Tara Mines trains went to Drogheda and then to Dublin Port using a spur from Tara Mines to the old Kingscourt to Drogheda line. The commuter train for Dublin will head in a different direction (S.E) probably using the old Navan to Clonsilla route.

    There was an old train line from Clonsilla the whole way to Navan (and beyond) that closed down ages ago (1960s, I think) and the embankments, bridges and station house platforms were intact until the 1980s and then some genius decided to let people build houses on the old lines, bridges were demolished and at least one of the old stations (Kilmessan) became a hotel and wedding venue. The line will eventually be opened up again but it's going to be bloody expensive if they want to use the old route now.

    Post edited by Vagabond Days on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭thereiver


    You can team up with a friend and buy a house or apartment you don't have to be in a relationship with someone. not ideal but better to than paying rent for the next 10 years My friend bought a caravan he pays for esb and a small fee for renting the space



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Or save as much as you can work out what's the nearest one bed house you can buy even if it's 20 miles from your job



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    The same with the Waterford -Cork line. According to EU law you cannot have a rail line splitting a farm without an over bridge or tunnel under. Hence about 15 years back the Irish Rail compulsory purchase orded a whole lot of farm land.

    Its going to be a bigger mess to reacquire the same land again. But the new rail line should follow the old one for topographical reasons.



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