(Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself?) Any update?

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122516582#Comment_122516582

You can't force someone to reply. Admins or moderators can't force someone to reply.

Admin or moderators should be able to and encouraged to pm users if warranted and say, "Hey, stop dumping or ignoring/winding user *** up. Engage in good faith discussion or leave"

You're not forcing them to reply, but you are moderating a debate/discussion so it actually moves forward. If they don't want to abide by those rules, they can leave.

Overwhelmingly people have asked for a clamp down on baiting, trolling, derailing threads.

I'm glad we've been heard. We'll just wait for something to happen now, like site wide rules made clearer and more visible. That can't be that hard to roll out. We might even be able to read through the lines and figure out what is the point of modern boards.ie.

Posters behaviour will also contribute to this. Move on if it's not going your way.

This is one of those rules/guidelines that will need clarity. Maybe we can bring back something like the Boards way to be a better poster?

Anyway, as always, thanks for the input from an Admin. The owner's and management's absence is still felt, but it's still good to have someone near the top be involved in this convo.

JP Liz V1

Do we know if @Boards.ie: Mike has seen this thread yet

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122516758#Comment_122516758

In fairness it's the owner of the site who needs to make more than annual appearance 🙄

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122516758#Comment_122516758

It's the weekend so I hope not.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122516821#Comment_122516821

Last post was in September 2023.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122496024#Comment_122496024

I thanked your post.

Shit, is that "thanks trolling"?

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122516963#Comment_122516963

Last post was in September 2023.

Yowsers.

(For those of a certain vintage….)

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517023#Comment_122517023

@Boards.ie: Mike @Boards.ie: Odhran do we need a new landlord

Vote4Squirrels

There definitely needs to be more warnings/sanctions etc on people who don’t actually debate.

Whether it is the constant asking questions rather than making their own points (and in the Cathy Newman style often); those who make sweeping statements such as “this thread is full of racist posts” and flatly refusing to give examples of such when challenged and those who just copy and paste swathes of text from other sites but never actually SAY anything.

This is a great site from what I can see and I’m enjoying my time here and have had some really interesting debates - but there some who really don’t like anyone who disagrees with them and seem to try to get rid.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122497021#Comment_122497021

Feeky McGee! Jaysus yer taking me back!

Ha Long Bay

This thread is a prime example of everything that is wrong with CA in particular.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058364951/terror-threat-moved-to-substantial

Started with a clickbait title and within a post dragged straight off the initial topic and has went downhill fast.

Also is the reporting function working? I reported the post below this morning from an anti-vax poster (previously banned from the main C19 vaccine thread) but it's still there.

If a post like this is not actionable why would anyone bother to engage in discussion at any serious level.

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517320#Comment_122517320

Are you getting the little notification at the bottom of the screen after you report a post?

I, myself, reported a couple of spam threads, the ones with all the Chinese characters, but didn’t see any confirmation.

An “issue” with reporting it could explain the, seemingly, lack of moderation in the “Radio” forum and the ‘Off the Ball’ thread of late.

Ha Long Bay

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517361#Comment_122517361

I did not notice any notification after I reported that post this morning. It did not give any error either when I hit submit.

I just asked as I thought a post like that would normally get actioned.

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517320#Comment_122517320

A lot of that sort a thing going around these days unfortunately

Reminds me of a virus called " slapped cheek virus " , except this is "some cheek " virus for which there is no known cure or vaccine :)

Big Bag of Chips

You reported a post this morning? And are wondering why it's still there!

It's the weekend. Moderators are volunteers.

Ha Long Bay

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517491#Comment_122517491

I'm guessing this post was in reply to my post?

I asked a simple question is the reporting function still working correctly and this is how you respond?

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517491#Comment_122517491

I reported a post on that forum on 16th.

Based on all previous moderation on that forum it was sanctionable and even based on standard boards rules it was sanctionable.

Maybe your defauit reaction could be something other than these sort of excuse responses when you have no actual idea what levels of moderation is happening on specific forums?

Other long standing posters have flagged similiar concerns about other forums, very little sign of any mod activity.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517605#Comment_122517605

Yes and Im not raising these to attack mods. Its obvious they have a lot on plate. This is more systematic that there seem to be areas / threads that are falling between the cracks, perhaps some confusion at times over who is covering what.

And to assist that, other than more mods with co-ordination between them, is perhaps a rationalisation of some forums / threads.

Big Bag of Chips

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517511#Comment_122517511

Yes, it is working. It is the weekend and moderators are volunteers.

Ha Long Bay

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517644#Comment_122517644

Great thanks for the update. Why is there no notification though as another poster pointed out?

Any comment as a site admin regarding the issues I mentioned at the start of my original post?

Big Bag of Chips

A notification for what?

TheChrisD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122515810#Comment_122515810

The lack of mods — both in terms of numerical count, and "freshness" — is definitely a major contributor, and was never helped by the general trend over the years for new mods to only be promoted from within, or by recommendation only.

And I'm not just saying this because I've been doing r/ireland for the last 18 months, but you always need new perspectives on the teams when trying to manage places like this that can pivot and adjust in large ways from year to year.

Ha Long Bay

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517691#Comment_122517691

I give up. It was posted about 5 posts above. Enjoy your night.

TheChrisD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517491#Comment_122517491

A site doesn't stop just because it's a weekend.

I hate to keep using my actions on Reddit as an example, but we don't stop keeping an eye on the mod queue just because it happens to be Saturday or Sunday. I'm sure that the much larger pool of mods and admins on this site are able to each contribute a small amount on a weekend day to ensure that a mod queue doesn't have things sitting in there for more than a few hours at a time, right?

Like, we only have 13 mods and yet there's rarely something reported that's waiting for long despite 5,000 comments posted on a Sunday.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517691#Comment_122517691

Previously a popup notification would appear at bottom of screem if you reported a post.

This stopped occurring a couple of weeks ago. I noted it on the bugs thread but zero indication of any concern about it or plans for a fix.

It creates impression with posters that report function may be broken.

Big Bag of Chips

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517714#Comment_122517714

I'm sorry that I missed a few posts!! I'm trying to keep up with this and also due to the feedback here trying to keep and eye and help out in CA too. A lot of post have been warned today and yesterday. (during a very busy weekend for me personally)

TheChrisD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122501085#Comment_122501085

On most Reddit communities, yes if you post a public callout of the moderators (outside of possibly constructive feedback meta threads — it all very much depends on the community and whether or not it's set in the rules) you will most likely be banned from that community.

However, that's mostly because there is the modmail function which allows you with one message to privately contact the entire mod team at once, which goes to a dedicated communal inbox where all messages and responses are permanently archived for all mods to read at any time in the future.

Now I'm not privy to how the backend of Boards currently works or has ever worked, but I'm not sure that there's any sort of similar equivalent here aside from this Feedback forum?

Ha Long Bay

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517737#Comment_122517737

Why so passive agressive? This is a feedback thread. !!!

You have demonstrated the lack of personnel is one of the key issues and thanks for that.

nachouser

Lads, it's a Sunday night and you're asking someone to do extra homework.

TheChrisD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517754#Comment_122517754

A place like this is more than just homework though. It's not something that you sit down with for a dedicated two hour block during your day and work through everything in that period. It needs like two minutes of work every hour, even if it's just looking at an inbox queue and choosing approve/reject (paraphrasing, again I don't claim to know how Boards' backend works)

nachouser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122517763#Comment_122517763

It's not work, though. It's volunteering. Are they not volunteering hard enough.