Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

halkar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123499901#Comment_123499901

Lol, China gave him two fingers for his tariffs. He has no idea about China or Chinese people. They rather starve than bow for Trump.

Wolf359f

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123499918#Comment_123499918

It just gets harder and harder for the MAGA morons to keep following:

China pays the tariffs, those tariffs will be financing the big bill. So why did Trump chicken out of the higher tariffs? Why is he putting China over the US etc...

But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he was that hurt with the TACO phrase.

thatsdaft

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123499864#Comment_123499864

”Pamela canal”

Heh funny typo 😂 I hear Pamela’s canal is well wide and navigable

Jokes aside, spot on post!

brickster69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123499933#Comment_123499933

Can't blame them after the century of humiliation they suffered when the Brits pumped the population full of opium to replace the silver they were draining. Ironically that was over a trade deficit also, they probably have long memories.

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123498977#Comment_123498977

I think he understands well enough how they all work, it's that they don't correspond to his wishes that he is angered by. He can only explain that by lying to himself as to the reasons why: he's the only one in step with what the nation needs….

thatsdaft

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123500308#Comment_123500308

Ain’t that the same century your favourite Russian empire captured half of Siberian far east from China and still occupies swathes of Chinese land larger than most European countries to this day?

edit: yes over a million square miles (that’s 4-5x Ukraines stolen from China by Russians! Oh the humiliation!!)

https://chinamediaproject.org/2023/03/24/on-national-humiliation-dont-mention-the-russians/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amur_Annexation

yagan

I'm glad someone mentioned Sino-Russian relations as they're simply not good.

Xi turning up at the parade in Moscow is as much a marker that after Putin east Russia, or what's left of it will be very much in China's orbit. China has pretty much agreed with Kazakstan that it can manage everything between the Urals and Irkutsk, and China looks after far east Russia.

Half of the Russian population lives in the western most eight of the Russian landmass, so they'll fall into Europe's sphere of influence.

ancapailldorcha

Xi is basically using Russia as a colony state: Taking their raw materials on favourable terms while selling them the manufactured goods they need to continue their pointless war. It's pathetic that what was once considered a superpower is now a tinpot autocracy bending over for anyone and everyone willing to throw it any kind of help.

aloyisious

SCOTUS has passed judgement that Trump's move to remove humanitarian parole from approx 500,000 foreign aliens, mostly South Americans, living in the US is OK. The US airline industry will probably be happy.

eire4

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123498254#Comment_123498254

I am not pretending that Americans are far poorer and struggling far more to quote yourself I am simply stating that income inequality is a major problem in the US and has been getting worse and under the current US regime if they get this big tax bill pushed through it will likely continue to get worse under this regime.

I also pay for most things with my credit card and have zero credit card debit. However credit card debt in the US is high and increasing.

As for the 63% $500 expense number that came from CNBC a very pro business channel.

eire4

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123498638#Comment_123498638

Fair enough I guess we just agree to disagree on the overall situation so.

eire4

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123498745#Comment_123498745

Well despite it being a typical sample size you it seems don't accept the survey's results thats what it comes down to.

Timberrrrrrrr

I see the pope is going to hold a mass in Chicago on the same day Trumps having his little military parade in DC.

Looking forward to his meltdown over this.

https://www.indy100.com/politics/trump/pope-leo-xiv-chicago-mass-trump-trolling

Timberrrrrrrr

And now he's going after the American Bar Association

https://twitter.com/AGPamBondi/status/1928188442103439521?t=MCfSGGmmz0XTzcqWZAImAQ&s=19

thatsdaft

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123500532#Comment_123500532

Springsteen and Taylor Swift and any other artists Trump bitched about should hold a free concert afterwards 😂

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123499618#Comment_123499618

I've heard of the concept of a cold civil war. Individual states simply ignoring his pronouncements and getting away with it simply cause it's bad for the economy to escalate it at a federal level.

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123500513#Comment_123500513

I dont care where it came from, I dont believe it. It completely flies in the face of the level of discretionary expenditure that is actually taking place in the US. If it were true the economy as it exists in the US would be impossible. It also flies in the face of economic stats on median level of savings (which is about 8,000$)

There are people who can't afford that level of expenditure and there is a massive issue with something of a permanent underclass in the US. But those people aren't getting Deliveroo 5 nights a week. The difference between what people say and what cold, hard economic facts tell us (and i dont mean GDP) is growing further and further apart. And it was upon this train that Trump rode into office.

The new tax bill is terrible. Income inequality is bad and getting worse. But from somewhere in the 30-40 percentile every single American is better off than the equivalent European (financially anyway. I certainly wouldn't move there). Obviously there is an argument that no income feels good when income inequality is so bad and I think that's fair and understandable. There is also a very real argument that that is going to reverse thanks to the current administration's stupidity. But income inequality is not the be all and end all when the inequality is between "well off", "pretty wealthy" and "obscenely wealthy" which is closer to what the US is dealing with.

However there remains a persistent narrative that America is failing the average American and they need to reckon with that to understand why Trump came to power and it's just not true. There is also a narrative that only the top 1%/10% (delete as appropriate) is succeeding and it's also just not true. Might well be true in 3 years the way things are going and I'll adjust my argument then.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123500554#Comment_123500554

Don't do that!

Trump will only retaliate with a concert with Kid Rock, and no one deserves that!

randd1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123500493#Comment_123500493

Assuming they don't start crashing.

Patrick2010

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123499539#Comment_123499539

If America has a financial meltdown and millions get unemployed as well as millions lose medicare Trump will just blame Biden and MAGA will lap it up

King Power Fox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123499918#Comment_123499918

Or you could say Trump is a TWAT

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123500711#Comment_123500711

They won't lap it up if the majority of those affected are maga.

aloyisious

Explaining the GOP elected officials attitude to the Medicaid cuts at a public meeting, Senator Joni Ernst's [Iowa] quote "So, people are not god, well, we all are going to die". Naturally she got an excited verbal response from the audience at the meeting. https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2025/05/30/well-were-all-going-to-die-u-s-sen-joni-ernst-defends-medicaid-cuts-at-heated-town-hall/

Presumably that was not the only thing she said at the meeting.

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123500781#Comment_123500781

Sure they will. They're already doing it

Headshot

That 5 yr old that punch Musk, he's living alot of peoples dream right there lol

CelticRambler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123500524#Comment_123500524

Correct. There is no proof the survey was ever carried out, let alone any reporting on the exact questions and methodology.

So unless you can provide a link to the data - something the news article was unable to fo - no: I do not accept that those figures are any more realistic or accurate than any of the random numbers that dribble from Trump's mouth day after day.

eire4

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123500565#Comment_123500565

Whether the average American is better off economically or not then the average European has not been an argument I made and or am making. Personally I could care less what the right answer is. The US IMHO is a country that used to have so much going for it. Now they are a train wreck busy stabbing allies in the back and under this regime they voted into office they are making brexit look like a minor error by comparison. Income inequality is a major issue in the US and is only getting worse as is so much else in the country health care and health outcomes being a prominent example with both likely to continue to worsen under this current US regime. As for the results of the survey you of course are entitled to refuse to believe them. Any survey of course has a margin of error involved in it. Bottom line regardless of what you or I do or do not believe is that the US is not in a good place to put it mildly and it looks likely to only be getting worse for the foreseeable. While the long term damage been done by the US stabbing its allies in the back is arguably even more serious given the US is no longer a country that can be relied upon and or trusted.

eire4

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123500963#Comment_123500963

Have to give you credit that was brilliant there is no proof the survey was ever carried out. Got a great laugh from that. I guess Ericka and her editor Gina and US News just made it all up.

retalivity

In news that will surprise nobody, Musk has been off his tits for most of his time advising Trump & heading up DOGE. Allegedly also pissed himself repeatedly in the oval office, incontinence there seems to be a running theme…

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/elon-musks-drug-much-greater-184951861.html

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123501098#Comment_123501098

But Zelensky didnt wear a suit...

Meanwhile Musk was lecturing the Cabinet in a baseball cap while off his head.