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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,191 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Leavitt: "The courts should have no role here. There is a troubling and dangerous trend of unelected judges inserting themselves into the presidential decision making process. America cannot function if President Trump or any other president has their sensitive diplomatic or trade negotiations railroaded by activist judges."

    More fascist nonsense.

    We must be near completion of all steps at this stage?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,835 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Founding Fathers designed a 3 pronged system of government to ensure both oversight and limiting dictatorial minded individuals as President.

    Just because the GOP congress has fallen in line for Trump doesn't mean the judiciary should do the same.

    Of course the likes of Leavitt and Stephen Miller will talk out with sides or their mouths with respect to the constitution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,159 ✭✭✭eire4


    Unlike supporters of dear leader and the authoritarian Republicans on here if information proves to be incorrect I have no problem in acknowledging that. However there is a major income inequality problem in the US and it is getting worse and likely to do so even more if the current authoritarian regime gets its big tax bill through. According to CNBC 63% of Americans cannot afford $500 for an emergency expense while according to US News 42% of Americans don't have an emergency fund at all and 40% could not cover an emergency expense of $1,000.

    Survey: 42% of Americans Don't Have an Emergency Fund | Banking | U.S. News



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,528 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    … based on a survey of just over a thousand Americans - or 0.00000348% of the population. In other words: pure sh1te, as far as research goes.

    Quoting this kind of nonsense undermines any serious discussion, and it's the kind of thing that feeds the MAGA mentality, because, when it suits their agenda, they can cite the "proof" that's been uncritically retweeted and reposted thousands of times; and when it doesn't, well, then they actually have a point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,596 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    They did a reasonably shîte job of it to be fair.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,826 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It's plainly fascistic language. Leavitt's claims have absolutely no basis - her words serve not as a rebuttal to the judges, but as a rallying cry to MAGA. Put her in a room with someone who actually knows what they're talking about and she'd fold like a hinge in about two minutes.

    'Unelected' is a commonly-used populist term to delegitimise various offices when they usurp a particular agenda. Firstly, many offices aren't directly elected - they're appointments made by an elected official. Secondly, as far as I can tell, these trade judges were appointed via a similar process to Supreme Court justices where a presidential nomination gets kicked down to Congress for confirmation.

    Unlike Elon Musk and his DOGE goons, the judiciary has a very well-defined role in the American political system. Challenging their power is an open attempt to gain supremacy for the executive branch - a goal the Trump administration has been pussyfooting around since it got in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭blackcard


    This is entirely in keeping with the Trump philosophy. 'Never admit defeat' Blame someone else.

    Similarly, with a report that has come from RFK's Department of Health regarding vaccines which is partly based on studies that were never carried out. When caught out on this, rather than admit it, she blamed it on 'formatting issues'.

    Karoline has an incredible knack of spouting garbage continuously with her head nodding back and forth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,586 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    I am very sure, in the future, she will play the victim when the backlash lands at her front door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭Timistry




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,159 ✭✭✭eire4


    Are you saying the survey's results are wrong? The number of people surveyed is a pretty common number to survey. Nice job with the insults though that was solid maga mentality.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Pretending that Americans are far poorer and struggling far more than they really are is one of the key tenants of MAGA. I'm really struggling to understand why so many people are happy to jump on it.

    I don't have an "emergency fund". I just have cash. It seems like a potentially poorly phrased survey. On top of which, as manic points out, they are frequently equating people using a credit card to cover an expense with them not being able to cover it with cash. I pay for absolutely everything with my credit card.

    63% of Americans can not afford a 500$ expense is clearly a farcically inaccurate statement whatever absurd methodology they used to come up with it.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,907 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I don't think Trump is going to let go of tariffs too easy. It's something he has talked about long before he ever became president.

    To be fair, "tariff" is his favourite word!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,129 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The courts should have no role here

    Just stop and think about that for a moment.

    What she (and MAGA) is saying here is that there should be no rule of established law. Laws that have been in effect long before Trump became President. The only law that should matter is the law that Trump and his billionaire coup say matters.

    Why is nobody taking these people to task over their words?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,102 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    With the courts allowing the tariffs [under presidential authority] to stand until a final ruling [one way or the other] is made by SCOTUS on their legality, it seems possible that he could amend them or introduce new ones with a closer start time to get his way. The two appeal courts temporary rulings have allowed him keep that power until the issue is given a final judicial ruling on, presumably by SCOTUS.

    If SCOTUS does take on the case AND does decide in his favour, they will open the door to the conclusion that he did not need to get the assent and agreement of Congress to introduce the tariffs and he will not need it in the future. IMO, such a SCOTUS decision would set aside any meaning to the notion that Trump's use of presidential power is controllable or liable to Constitutional control. They would be giving him the power to tell them [the SCOTUS bench] to feck off, that he can ignore them totally in the same breath as he can treat Congress itself, they being his lapdogs.

    I think SCOTUS [due to its precedent Trump decisions] might take the easy route out, not to hear the case and to refer it back to the lower [appeals] courts, and they in turn do the same to the original judge in the first case as suitable for him to decide on after he read over their thoughts on Trump's appeal.

    .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,102 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    She's also trying to set herself free from future legal consequence of her dumping **** all over the courts while she is NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL on the federal payroll, just a hired White House lickspittle. Hopefully when the end comes, she will not be allowed delete any part of her CV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭blackcard


    There is an hilarious item on Youtube where Donold, Don jnr and Ivanka are being interviewed by Howard Stern who asks what is 17 times 6. Ivanka looks as if Stern has two heads and says that is not a practical application. She makes no attempt to answer the question as it clearly beyond her. She does say that they should use a calclator

    Don jnr starts mumbling whilst playing for time. First, he says 96, then 92. Eventually, he answers 108.

    Donold says the answer is 11 12, later says 112. Howard says this is the correct answer and Donold beams with pride. Don Jnr. says it is 6 times 20 minus 6 times 2 giving him an answer of 108

    Eventually, one of the camera crew comes up with the correct answer, 102. The Trump kids were in their late teens/early twenties, I would guess.

    Donold jnr, unprompted,said that he and Ivanka had got into the Wharton College on merit and that Donold hadn't to buy their way in - I think Donold went to Wharton College too

    This mam is running the US



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,826 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I'm sure she's totally in favour of established law, so long as it's the kind which supports the agenda of Donald J Trump.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,549 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I agree the number surveyed should be sufficient, and is similar to the Bankrate survey linked to earlier today. I believe the number is typical and statistically significant. A good number of the answers agree between the two surveys, but there are sufficient differences to raise an eyebrow, such as US News saying "42% don't have a rainy day fund" whilst Bankrate gives the number at 27%. (Unless there's a difference in the definition between US News' "Emergency Fund" and Bankrate's "Emergency Savings"). The Bankrate survey does seem to show the actual questions asked with the charts of the various responses to the quoted questions. If the US News links to the actual questions, I can't find the link anywhere, which means that in the event of differences, I'd go with the Bankrate answer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,528 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Yeah, the sample size is pretty common, but that doesn't mean it has any meaningful value. Put it in context: 1200 people across 50 very disparate states = 24 people per state, not taking account of any weighting. Socio-economic studies typically divide the population into six classes. So that's 4 people per class per state.

    Now pick four of your own peers, any four - can you say with 100% confidence that ye all share the same attitude to life, including all the short and long term choices you have made and will make that affect your financial status, or risk of upsetting it?

    A miniscule sample size can work when the survey asks one question with little nuance; most of the time, though, this kind of survey is done to simply churn out results for the purposes of marketing, news or manipulating public opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,981 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    It's giving him an easy out, surely his advisors can see it was a disaster and now they can back down whilst blaming others.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭EmergencyExit


    Yeap and the people questioning Biden obvious mental decline at the time where called all kinds of horrible rubbish like Trumpers or right wing conspiracy nuts. The media went out of it's way to hide it whilst Biden was hidden away from interviews or even taking questions. They have "blood on their hands" on this issue have no doubt about that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭Field east


    TAcO issue. I wonder , when. A reporter asked Trump for his response to this TACO ‘slur’ was he actually aware of its very existance? I say this because:-

    (1) if he really understood the acronym. He would have understood it as a very negative question and would have deemed it to be a very NASTY question , said so and told the reporter that you are fake news/ barred from future press conferences , etc, etc, etc.

    (1) He did not ‘pick up ‘ the word ‘chicken’ in the question and he sought clarification and then proceeded to give a blow by blow account of the reducing Tarriff story with China - giving us the VERY REASON for the TAcO label being put on him .

    I wonder do his advisors tell him everything?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Weird times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    The man is mad, his latest post on truth social

    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114593880455063168

    The U.S. Court of International Trade incredibly ruled against the United States of America on desperately needed Tariffs but, fortunately, the full 11 Judge Panel on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit Court has just stayed the order by the Manhattan-based Court of International Trade. Where do these initial three Judges come from? How is it possible for them to have potentially done such damage to the United States of America? Is it purely a hatred of “TRUMP?” What other reason could it be? I was new to Washington, and it was suggested that I use The Federalist Society as a recommending source on Judges. I did so, openly and freely, but then realized that they were under the thumb of a real “sleazebag” named Leonard Leo, a bad person who, in his own way, probably hates America, and obviously has his own separate ambitions. He openly brags how he controls Judges, and even Justices of the United States Supreme Court — I hope that is not so, and don’t believe it is! In any event, Leo left The Federalist Society to do his own “thing.” I am so disappointed in The Federalist Society because of the bad advice they gave me on numerous Judicial Nominations. This is something that cannot be forgotten! With all of that being said, I am very proud of many of our picks, but very disappointed in others. They always must do what’s right for the Country! In this case, it is only because of my successful use of Tariffs that many Trillions of Dollars have already begun pouring into the U.S.A. from other Countries, money that, without these Tariffs, we would not be able to get. It is the difference between having a rich, prosperous, and successful United States of America, and quite the opposite. The ruling by the U.S. Court of International Trade is so wrong, and so political! Hopefully, the Supreme Court will reverse this horrible, Country threatening decision, QUICKLY and DECISIVELY. Backroom “hustlers” must not be allowed to destroy our Nation! The horrific decision stated that I would have to get the approval of Congress for these Tariffs. In other words, hundreds of politicians would sit around D.C. for weeks, and even months, trying to come to a conclusion as to what to charge other Countries that are treating us unfairly. If allowed to stand, this would completely destroy Presidential Power — The Presidency would never be the same! This decision is being hailed all over the World by every Country, other than the United States of America. Radical Left Judges, together with some very bad people, are destroying America. Under this decision, Trillions of Dollars would be lost by our Country, money that will, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. It would be the harshest financial ruling ever leveled on us as a Sovereign Nation. The President of the United States must be allowed to protect America against those that are doing it Economic and Financial harm. Thank you for your attention to this matter!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,329 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Punctuation? Has CFTrump broken with the Federalist Society? Hard to read this - was it a 'Truth' maybe put in the link?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,496 ✭✭✭Patrick2010




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    He still doesn't understand how tariffs work, or the courts or the constitution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭thereiver


    If the new bill pas,s 8 to 15 million people will lose medicaid people in low incomes who work Also 200 planned Parenthood clinics will close due to cuts in medicare payments this clinics give medical care and free contraception to people on low income. Those so called jobs are low paid jobs that Americans do not want Americans but laptops and phones imported because it would be impossible to make them in America for a low price. Most people will not pay 2k for an iphone

    China and other country's have built up supply chains and trained 1000 s of people to make phones There's a reason why theres no company making those products in america

    American people will not work for the wages pays in Chinese factorys

    Trump is attacking the middle class and working people so that the rich can get more tax cuts He is using the shield of anti dei and antisemitism to reduce freedom of speech



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,277 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Remember all those people who claimed that Trump was only messing about being a dictator? Guess what, that is exactly what he is trying to be. He claims that being the POTUS gives him unlimited power and that there is no need for the other equal branches of the government.

    Where are all those people who demand guns be allowed, as it is written in the cherished constitution, but for this, the constitution shouldn't be adhered to.

    Even Fox News raised the pretty obvious question that ,rather than go down this anti-constitutional route, since the GOP controls Congress, why doesn't Trump get these tariffs through Congress? And they would get through. It is because that would be accepting that Congress does indeed have a say in the country, and that is not part of the plan.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,181 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The guns protecting against tyranny narrative was always a pathetically thin veneer over a worship of wealth, selfishness, violence, force and oppression. Most of the same people are happy to wave the flag of the Confederacy, a pathetic slave state that lost the only war it ever fought.

    Look at the way they responded to the pandemic. People always show their true selves during a crisis.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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