Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

aloyisious

I'm hoping that his "name-change" and national identity change suggestion to Canadians will have the reverse effect there. It certainly seems to have brought about a sudden showing of the Maple-leaf flag on F/B. Ditto his suggestion that the greenback be used to "buy" out the birth-rights of Greenland's citizens.

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123047179#Comment_123047179

Kamala Harris used this picture on her Twitter account. If Trump did something similarly juvenile in reverse he'd be called all sorts of names.

She comes across as a sore loser tbh.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123049399#Comment_123049399

So? It's the same photo Carter's family are choosing to use. Contemptible prick doesn't make it into the photo of a funeral of a pretty fantastic individual. Trump was a sore loser, she accepted the result and isn't going to attempt to instigate some kind of a coup. So her sharing a cropped image is reaching for something to complain about.

Suckler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123049399#Comment_123049399

She comes across as a sore loser tbh.

Definitely, she's gone way beyond the reaction of Donald et al of Jan 6th 2021 in my opinion…….

looksee

….

techdiver

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123049399#Comment_123049399

I nearly laughed out loud with how dumb a comment this is. Accusing the sitting VP who certified the result of an election that she lost, of being a sore loser against a guy who literally did everything he could to overturn a valid election 4 years ago including inciting a violent insurrection in which people died? Is this your contention? Tone deaf is not the word for Trumpers.

ilkhanid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123049957#Comment_123049957

..who never stopped whinging through the last four years that his 2020 election loss was caused by fraud.''Waaaaaahhhh, wahh..it's not fair, it should be mine''.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123049399#Comment_123049399

Yes it is very concerning.

Out of 100 on the sore loser scale you want to give us a score for that versus Trump last time?

Come back to us when she starts inciting a mob to storm the Capitol.

Bonus points for 'juvenile' threats to hang JD Vance.

Cos that would be genuinely concerning

As opposed to this desperate nonsense.

What sort of reaction you think you would get to this expressions of concern?

Are you just trying to generate posts demonstrating how much worse Trump was?

Because if so you are doing a good job.

Rawr

Polishing off the old crystal ball for a moment, something came to mind that I wonder if the "centrists" or the GOP themselves are considering.

Trump is going to technically be a "lame-duck" President from day one since he cannot be re-elected. If the US Constitution survives the next 4 years he must leave the post in January 2029. In normal political cycles, the following should be happening.

Next 2 years: Build up and campaigning for Mid-Terms

The following 2 years: Build up and Primaries to next Presidential campagn.

Normally, the sitting President would be helping the next ticket from their party, but this Donnie we're talking about. Donnie doesn't give a fiddlers about the GOP, or frankly even MAGA people. I don't really see him putting the work into helping anyone else out.

So this is what I wonder: When we get into late 2027, and people start to notice that Donnie isn't doing anything to promote the next pick for a GOP Ticket….what will they do? Will they go through the motions of a Primary like last time in the hope that Donnie will eventually direct them into what they should do…or will they suddenly come to the horrible realisation that once Donnie has everything he needs from them, he'll just leave them to drown in their own in-fighting.

Assuming the Dems even learn from their fecklessness from last time, this might be part of why the GOP lose in 2028. The Dems might run the full cycle of Primaries and do everything needed to field a canditate who might win, while the GOP sit on their hands, unsure of what to do when Donnie isn't part of their ticket.

Hoop66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123048455#Comment_123048455

100% this. His failure to be accepted as an equal by New York society is what has driven all this. "I'll show them".

For some reason they didn't warm to someone who would barge his way into a group of people and start talking about how rich he was. They, correctly, thought he was a classless boor and he didn't like that.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123050311#Comment_123050311

I expect the Democratic party to run business as usual as far as their elections goes, however, once the Democratic party has its slates of potential POTUS nominees out there, expect CFTrump to be in full attack dog mode against all of them, and rabid spittle everywhere when one becomes the nominee.

Whoever is the GOP nominee will be chosen by him through his endorsements. His quid pro quo is promise of future pardons for him and his friends and families starting in 2029 and beyond. A leopard doesn't change his spots and Trump and Co. will get up to more criminal behaviours, it's not like he ever stops.

zell12

Anyone see mention of former press secretary Sean Spicer anywhere?

“This was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, PERIOD, both in person and around the globe.” - 2017

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123050471#Comment_123050471

Sure, I saw him winning a Golden Globe recently for best performance as a lying weasel…

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123049399#Comment_123049399

She comes across as a sore loser tbh.

Like that time Donnie tried to get Pence murdered.

looksee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123050471#Comment_123050471

He did a couple of years of a show on Newsmax, according to Wikipedia, but apparently

Following the2021 storming of the United States Capitol, Forbes

warned corporations against hiring Spicer and other Trump "propagandists", stating,

"Forbeswill assume that everything your company or firm talks about is a lie."

which apparantly worked as he has done nothing significant - he published a book and appeared on Dancing with the Stars, but that's about it. Trump apparently cost him his career.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123050317#Comment_123050317

I don't think I'd go far. You don't do something like running for president just to spite some New York intellectuals. The irony of course is that all he did as president justified their hostility towards him.

Patrick2010

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123050471#Comment_123050471

He pops up on Irish radio every now and again.

aloyisious

What's the story with Steve Bannon and Elon Musk, is Steve's rant about White South Africans in California Tech Industry (no black or Hispanics there) 'Peter Thiel, David Sachs, Elon Musk, are all white South Africans. He should go back to South Africa,' he said of Musk. Why do we have South Africans, the most racist people on earth, white South Africans, we have them making any comments at all on what goes on in the United States, a banging of his shoe on the door seeking re-admission to Trump's MAGA-world?

Has the taint of a criminal conviction and jail-time put Trump off the tainted?

Mr.Wemmick

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123050317#Comment_123050317

Exactly. It’s funny how many think Trump stupid, he is far from it and is very capable of recognising the depth of his limited educated skill-set compared to that of the bred-in-the-bone high brow intellectual political crowd. Obama chatting and including him at Carter’s state funeral will have pleased him no end.

His top of the ladder social fan club, OTOH, like Musk, don’t quite cut it. He is driven by much more than that. We could see him over the next four years try his hardest to smooth himself over to fit it. But then this is Trump we’re talking about - he could just as easily throw his toys out of the pram and instantly fire-up a regional conflict somewhere.

looksee

He saw the presidency as a chance to shine in show business. Listening to an interview about the Carter funeral recently he made a comment to the effect 'we went backstage, before we went on'. Backstage at a funeral? Going on-stage in a church? He is still mentally in show business, and that is how deep his thought processes go about anything. God help the world if he has to manage a war.

Igotadose

Re: Sean Spicer. Time to dust off #ETTD. There's a new crop coming in, in a week or so.

Igotadose

This shouldn't take the GOP long: bring back those good 'ol Confederate General military base names. Blow that dogwhistle, boys, and storm the battlements. Aye, me lads (a quote from Trump.)

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/13/politics/pete-hegseth-confederate-generals-military-bases/index.html

eire4

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123051052#Comment_123051052

They just don't do irony do they. Naming US military bases after traitors to the US unreal but as you say blow that dogwhistle.

Manic Moran

Honestly, I don't think anyone in the military was really thrilled about it, though equally I don't think anyone is particularly pushed about going back now that we've already done the change. Though the guys up at the base formerly known as Bragg would likely be very happy with another name change to anything else, Bragg or otherwise. I don't know anyone posted there who's proud of being at "Fort Liberty." (They really couldn't come up with an airborne soldier worthy of naming a base after them?). I'm pretty sure some sailors were actively opposed to renaming Chancellorsville and Maury, though, sailors being a superstitious lot (Plus Chancellorsville/Smalls is most of the way through its life anyway, so why bother? They'd have been better off naming a brand new destroyer Smalls, she'd be in service for much longer and he does deserve a ship named after him). The Navy's current naming policy is raising eyebrows anyway, tradition is being bucked in a few ways. Not unique to the US, the Irish detour from mythical figures to authors wasn't unanimously approved of either, though the Irish are going back to form with the most recent ships.

Igotadose

Seems like the old Confederate General naming was a sop to the south, who hadn't (haven't?) gotten over losing the Civil War. Good riddance to the likes of Bragg, apparently one of the most inept generals in the Confederacy

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123052183#Comment_123052183

Is there a Ft. Ridgeway or a Ft. Taylor? They seem like obvious choices.

Manic Moran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123052403#Comment_123052403

There is not. Gavin is up there as an option as well (though I prefer Ridgeway).

Officially, the answer was that there were so many good choices, instead of snubbing everyone else bar the one chosen, they simply chose the concept of liberty.

Unofficially, I hear that the two major tenants: Airborne and Special Forces, couldn't agree on a name. Airborne wanted an Airborne name, SF wanted an SF type, and apparently there was no overlap in the suggestions. So neither of them won.

Manic Moran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123052270#Comment_123052270

Officially it was done in the spirit of reconciliation, and bases normally are named after some person with ties to the local area. Obviously enough, in States like Georgia or Virginia, you are going to get Confederate-linked people. Not many folks from the Fort Polk area fought for the Union. In the case of USNS Maury, that was simply naming an oceanographic ship for the father of modern oceanography, it wasn't a geographic or political thing at all.

(But, yes, for many of the bases at the time it was also a sop to the South and its congresscritters to get them to vote for things).

nachouser

Forty McFortface would seem like the obvious option for one of them.

tarvis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123049399#Comment_123049399

The sore loser is the former and soon to be president once again NOT placing his hand over his heart in salute to the deceased President.
That lack of manners would have been visible to all if that photo had been shown in full.