Mass stabbing event in Sydney - **Read OP before posting**

TokTik

https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2024/apr/13/australia-news-live-major-police-incident-in-sydney-after-reports-of-multiple-stabbings

Seems someone went crazy and started stabbing random people in Bondi Junction. I think the world needs a lot tougher knife laws. We constantly see stabbing deaths in U.K. too.

Anyone caught with a knife should do at least a year, 12 months in prison. No reason given Stop and search should also be an option to Gardai/police forces to get a handle on this. A knife is a deadly weapon.

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If posters wish to speculate with the intention of trolling then fire ahead - you will be threadbanned

Let the relevant authorities determine intent rather than speculate here

Back on topic, which is the tragic stabbing and murder of a number of people in Sydney. Leave it to the authorities to determine any underlying issues that may have contributed to the actions of the murderer

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StevenToast

satguy

Sean Quagmire

anewme

The videos are frightening. I've been to Westfield loads of times as have friends there.

A young baby is involved and in a bad way.

I see a lone woman police officer shot him as he went for her with the knife.

Hande hoche!

Fair play to the individual with a table(?) who intervened at the escalator.

TokTik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122013270#Comment_122013270

Same, heard a report from the guys who helped out with the 9 month old. They said the baby seemed to be ok, but the mother was touch and go. Did a bit of work in the Westfield years ago when I was living down the road from it.

Something this random could happen in any shopping centre anywhere.

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122013296#Comment_122013296

Saw that. Think it was a barrier stand?

Deregos.

An image of the perpetrator

Pauliedragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058346656/mass-stabbing-event-in-sydney

I agree but how do we police it? Cops able to randomly stop and search people who are walking down the street? That won't and shouldn't happen.

Hande hoche!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122013312#Comment_122013312

Thanks, that would make sense.

Fairly scary looking knife that he was armed with.

TokTik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122013323#Comment_122013323

I’d rather be stopped and patted down than stabbed. No reason why it shouldn’t happen. And defined terms with no leeway for anyone caught with a blade, unless a chef etc on way to or from work.

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122013332#Comment_122013332

https://x.com/Nimra__1/status/1779086896343155127

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122013334#Comment_122013334

Can you not see that random searches would not stop an incident like this, so why are you bleating on about it?

A man grabs a knife and heads to his local shops for a murder spree, do you think he is worried about getting done for possessing a knife?

What exactly are the odds that he even gets stopped for a random search in the 2 minutes between picking up the knife in his kitchen and getting to the shops?

Whatever about knife laws stopping gang incidents involving knives, they would have no effect on spree killers whatsoever.

ToweringPerformance

This man will never have to buy his own round again. Respect.

https://twitter.com/RanaTells/status/1779093524455276869

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Another 2 brave men.

Sadly the mother of the baby has died.

https://x.com/ForsigeNews/status/1779087506144706622

anewme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122013452#Comment_122013452

Not sure it needs the term "brand ambassador of masculinity", lots of brave people there at the scene including the police officer (gun or no gun)

Vote4Squirrels

That female police officer has balls of granite, fair play.

satguy

The same, thing over and over.

Yet every day the West lets boat loads of young fighting age Muslim men into our cities and towns.

They live beside some very rich Muslim countries,, Yet they wont go there,, they jump on small boats and risk all to get to the West.

Why ???

_Kaiser_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122013499#Comment_122013499

Has it been confirmed that the attacker was Muslim then?

But on your wider question. It's part of the religion. Just as how Catholicism spread throughout the world (for better or worse - generally worse), this is history repeating itself.

Plus we in the West have made it very easy with noisy left-wing liberal types wailing about our obligations, and supposed privilege and guilt. While the West tears itself apart in culture wars, identity politics and virtue, the rest of the world moves on, and there will always be those who will take advantage of and exploit such foolishness.

The problems arise when the cultures and expectations clash, but we're bringing it on ourselves and it's only going to get worse I believe. We're actually regressing as a society in many respects which would seem contradictory to a lot of progress on issues but is true nonetheless.

gym_imposter

The attacker may or may not be Muslim but either way it doesn't achieve anything by taking shots at Muslims in general, you can oppose the incoherent and unworkable immigration policy we currently have without smearing a group of people

I don't believe in not reporting the ethnicity of the attacker but some of the commentary can be both crass and mindless

I don't believe that some cultures are a particularly good fit for western countries but I wouldn't see them as inherently more prone to violence

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058346656/mass-stabbing-event-in-sydney

We do have legislation regarding knives and offensive weapons, gardai can stop and search anyone, but obviously they must suspect they have a weapon, under section 16.

https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1990/act/12/enacted/en/print.html

Oscar_Madison

police don’t believe this is a terrorist attack but don’t know the motive

Sky News just now

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122013331#Comment_122013331

An attack on people in a Jewish neighbourhood by a member of a religion where hatred of Jews is hardwired into the belief system? Obviously we're racists for even thinking it.

ToweringPerformance

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122013601#Comment_122013601

It's not a Jewish neighborhood.

volchitsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122013548#Comment_122013548

I've no idea whether this stabbing was related to Islam, but on a point of information, the question of whether Islam is more inherently violent than Christianity is probably to be found in the lives and teachings of both their founders. Mohammed was a warlord. Jesus was not.

I know Christianity is far from blameless in how it spread in practice, but it is not inherently warlike. Islam is.

Even in in terms of rules for one's personal life, Islam is far more violent: the closest equivalent Hadith to the New Testament story about the woman caught in the act of adultery tells how Muhammed, in his infinite kindness and wisdom, first allowed her to give birth and then breast feed her baby (born as a result of the adultery) and only after the baby was weaned did he order her to be stoned to death. There's no "Let he who is without sin…" in Islam, never mind "Go and sin no more".

And Muhammed is "the perfect man" in Islam - a model for all. So the difference is that there is very little peaceful "counterbalance" available for more peaceful Muslims to call on in opposition to the more violent ones.

(And to be clear, I'm NOT saying that all Muslims are violent. I know most aren't. I'm making a different point.)

ToweringPerformance

Sydney police confirming this isn't terror related.

chopperbyrne

Have they given a reason for why it's not terror related?

enricoh

Miracle we haven't had one of these in a main thoroughfare yet. I know Dundalk had one 5 years ago but not a busy area.

Have we undercover on say Grafton st + o connell st by any chance, anyone know? Saw a video of a fight outside Dr quirkys n 15 minutes later no cops, didn't inspire me!

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Just wondering how they can rule out a terrorist attack so quickly?

robertpatterson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122013424#Comment_122013424

Has it been reported that the killer lived local?

Stop and search worked in the uk , when they stopped doing it knife crime rose

They should have stop and search, i have nothing to hide it takes two minutes and if I know myself and my loved ones are safer I'm all for it

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122013663#Comment_122013663

Most people would consider Parnell Street a main thoroughfare.

Neondakid

How about all having an option for self defence instead of making everyone a sitting duck and hoping nobody goes nuts. There is a reason these attacks don’t end up with so many casualties where “good” or just sane people have something on them to eliminate the threat.

Also consider a crazy person can grab a kitchen knife and slash away even if you pose a death penalty on the possession they won’t care. There is no law or police who can protect someone from violence only the person facing the attacker.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122013609#Comment_122013609

Someone said it was. I'm open to correction.