Road House (Remake / Reboot)

JP Liz V1

Jake Gyllenhaal is the lead

The original with Patrick Swayze is kinda a cult classic ( is anything with Swayze not a "cult classic 😁)

Conor McGregor also in this

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058333074/road-house-remake-reboot

Oof, I was kinda on board - and then your last line put me right off 😅

EoinMcLovin

https://youtu.be/Y0ZsLudtfjI?si=nHNegSZG-Eyh8EuH

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Beric Dondarrion

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121671291#Comment_121671291

Conor McGregor...WTAF......think he'll be the worst thing about this by a country mile.

expectationlost

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121671525#Comment_121671525

is all his dialogue adr, is that his voice?

FortuneChip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121671537#Comment_121671537

His delivery is like a cross between a child and those text-to-speech Voice-Overs on Social Media. Awfully jarring.

Wouldn't be too enthused about this re-make anyway.

Man Vs ManUre

Conor will win Best supporting actor Oscar 2025 for this.

JP Liz V1

McGregor seems to have a big role as one of the villains

helimachoptor

looks bloody awful

RurtBeynolds

I actually like the look of it. But yes, McGregor will ruin it.

JP Liz V1

I fear Conor is going for an OTT Jaws, the Bond villain and failing at it

No cool Sam Elliot character

El Gato De Negocios

Fuckin mcgregor🤮Considering the original is a cheesey classic this was always going to be a piece of trash but with that utter gimp in it, you couldn't pay me to watch it.

JP Liz V1

No cinema release straight to Prime streaming?

Electric Nitwit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121671666#Comment_121671666

Ditto. Jake Gyllenhall seemed to be treading the line of serious/fun perfectly, but the moment McGregor showed up the trailer took an absolute nosedive

the.red.baron

He does a good job at playing a dickhead

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121672203#Comment_121672203

Playing?

Ten of Swords

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121672203#Comment_121672203

Indeed, I'd say that took an incredible amount of prep work for him to pull off and his acting coach(es) definitely earned their money that day!

Big Gerry

I wounder if McGregor has what it takes to be the next Arnold Schwarzenegger ?

Man Vs ManUre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121673847#Comment_121673847

The Rock and John Cena have had very successful movie careers, especially the rock. I don’t think Conor is anywhere near as disciplined as them 2 so dunno if he can do it, making movies is tough and consists of long days. But it is certainly an option for him now.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121674317#Comment_121674317

He has not one ounce of charisma or comedy chops, slapstick or even deadpan

Hurrache

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121674317#Comment_121674317

Not a chance can he do it, the asshole has no charisma or character.

pixelburp

McGregor is playing a crass, vulgar piece of shít who trashes property? Wow, I'm sure he really had to stretch himself.

Gyllenhaal clearly seems to be enjoying himself, and Doug Liman is a director I'll always pause to check out (Edge of Tomorrow legitimately one of the gret SciFi films of the 2010s, maybe even in the modern era?), but ye gods Conor McGregor looks like he'll sink this thing through sheer anti-charisma. With luck his Hollywood career will go nowhere.

2smiggy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121674317#Comment_121674317

John Cena is actually very funny. Great actor IMO

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121674317#Comment_121674317

Thing about wrestlers, especially those whose personas are already quite distinct, is that they're already actors before they pivot to Hollywood. So making the jump, especially to big loud blockbusters, isn't that much of a stretch really and with the right agent and focus you can do well. The Rock has basically made himself a brand in of itself at this stage (you can debate the positives and negatives of how that effects his films)

IMO, I'd note Dave Bautista as the most "successful" lately - purely in terms of acting: the other two are probably raking in more cash and coasting on a certain personality type, but Bautista has put his head down, worked his skills as an actor and picked interesting roles that sometimes push against type. You can tell he wants to challenge himself & not just take easy pay-cheques. I thought nothing of him when he became an actor, now he's someone whose presence makes me pay more attention.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121673847#Comment_121673847

Arnie might have had all the acting skill of an inanimate carbon rod, but he he had a very singular drive & focus you didn't see on-screen. He made his career happen through hard work & took his career seriously whether it was the body-building or acting. Indeed seriously enough that he could not only start a political career, but successfully became Governor of California.

I'd doubt McGregor has the discipline to finish a 100 piece jigsaw, never-mind cultivate a career in an industry that's quite political (not in the ideological sense, but the who you know, how you play the room kinda way). And based on the trailer above, I don't think he'll have many agents jumping to their phones when this comes out.

CastorTroy

Now I kinda wanna see McGregor in a Kindergarten Cop remake.

I think if comparing him to wrestlers, he's more likely to do more movies that are similar to Kurt Angle or RVD's catalogue than Rock, Cena or Batista. Maybe he can be in Suburban Commando 2 or Mr Nanny 2.

Actually only watched the original Road House for the first time last year or the year before. But will likely watch this version as well at some point.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121675160#Comment_121675160

Great as Peacemaker

Big Gerry

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121675266#Comment_121675266

To be successful in the movie game you also need a lot of luck.

Without Terminator Schwarzenegger probably wouldn't have of had the career he did back in the 80s and 90s.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121676205#Comment_121676205

Ballymun Creche Shade 😄

Homelander

Trailer looked fine to me as one of those get-the-beers-in movies. I mean being realistic it's not as if the original is high art, it's absolute so-bad-its-good crap.

I also thought Conor seemed....fine. Given the type of movie it is I think it'll be acceptable enough. Can't be any worse than Ronda Rousey in Fast and Furious.

Re: Wrestlers, John Cena started off very poorly, trying to do the Schwarzenegger schtick, and it kinda sucked. But he's grown immensely, and is by a country mile, vastly more talented and versatile than The Rock.

Peacemaker is hands down the best thing DC have ever done, and his performance is incredibly central to that.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121678713#Comment_121678713

Undoubtedly: IIRC Steven Seagal's entire career comes down to a producer attending / seeing Seagal's martial arts class and putting him in a movie; but equally Seagal's chronic inability to work his career or attitude, meant he flamed out quick enough from the top table. As opposed to Schwarzenegger who once he got his chance, worked hard to make himself a pro to work with and you'll not find stories of him falling out with directors or productions AFAIK. Open to correction there.

McGregor, if he does have designs on a Hollywood career cos he may not, will need to curb his galloping ego and attitude or he'll find doors shut quick enough. And maybe his public attitudes are a persona too - but all the shíte that has happened in his life suggests it's not. We'll see; an Amazon Movie isn't exactly hitting the ground running either.

TenBeers

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121672195#Comment_121672195

You're thinking of Ghost

😉

Big Gerry

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121680201#Comment_121680201

I think Schwarzenegger did fall out with John McTiernan during Last Action Hero.

Agent Coulson

Drops on Amazon on March 21st.

Someone is lying...

Amazon gave Gyllenhaal and the producers two choices a $60m budget and a cinema release or an $85m budget and straight to streaming Gyllenhaal and the producers chose straight to streaming.

Gyllenhaal seemingly confirmed Variety’s report about “Road House” always being intended for a global streaming release. Sources familiar with the negotiations told Variety that Liman, Gyllenhaal and producer Joel Silver were given a choice: Make the film for $60 million and get a theatrical release or take $85 million and go streaming only. They opted for the latter.

“They all took the money,” one knowledgeable source said.

Doug Liman say Amazon have no interest in supporting cinemas.

“Amazon has no interest in supporting cinemas,” Liman wrote. “Amazon will exclusively stream ‘Road House’ on Amazon’s Prime. Amazon asked me and the film community to trust them and their public statements about supporting cinemas, and then they turned around and are using Road House to sell plumbing fixtures.”

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/jake-gyllenhaal-amazon-road-house-streaming-controversy-1235923896/

gmisk

Early reviews are very good.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/road_house

Agent Coulson

This one made me laugh

. McGregor’s character gets it the worst. He has the cartoonish silliness of Yosemite Sam, with none of the charisma. 

https://deadline.com/2024/03/road-house-review-fizzle-than-sizzle-in-limans-remake-action-classic-sxsw-1235851084/

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121871951#Comment_121871951

Do think that's a great example of how the rotten tomato system is a bit misrepresentative. Checking the actual reviews and they're largely not positive. Most reviews are working out at 6/10 so it's more that it's not absolutely **** rather than being pretty good. Personally speaking, I will not watch a movie with McGregor in it...

gmisk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121872211#Comment_121872211

Ah I only actually read a couple of them (there arent many) rotten tomatoes isnt the best overall but usually a decent indicator.

Metacritic probably a better measure (7/10 ish)

https://www.metacritic.com/movie/road-house-2024/

Yeah McGregor makes my skin crawl as well tbh.

Homelander

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121872211#Comment_121872211

Not sure why you'd be going out of your way to try and discredit the movie? Rotten Tomatoes isn't misrepresentative.

So far, 79% of critics considered it decent enough, hence the score.

To say that means it's "not absolutely ****" is in itself completely misrepresentative.

If the majority of critics consider it a 6/10, and considering that critics view things through a pretty different lens than the average person, I would say it's probably a perfectly decent movie for what it is.

"absolutely ****" would be 2 or 3/10. 6/10 indicates a bit above average, I don't think anyone would expect a Road House remake to be anything but, at best. If anything personally I'm surprised that the reviews are as positive as they are.

Some people take a very weird stance on rating movies. 6/10 is what I'd give something that was entertaining, fun, decent, but forgettable. You seem to be lumping 6/10 with something being bad, in which case I would ask, what's the point then of the numbers 1 through 5.

I see it a lot on different websites. There'll be a review on IMDB that'll say X movie is terrible and hard to sit through but the rating given will be 4 or 5 out of 10.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873473#Comment_121873473

My point around why rt scoring isn't exactly a great representation is that 90% movie only means, it's an okay movie. It doesn't mean that it's a superb movie or anything like that. I just think the 90 or whatever can make it come across as far better than it is, meanwhile something like Triangle of Sadness has around 70% cause it's divisive. So 90% just indicates a movie is decent and is viewed as decent by most critics, so that's pretty much why I'm not a general fan of how their scoring works, cause the reviews can be a very different picture.

And I'll be entirely clear, I thoroughly dislike McGregor so I'd absolutely love for this movie to be a disaster for him. I'm sure it'll end up doing reasonably primarily for the MMA crowd.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/mar/09/road-house-review-riotous-80s-remake

guardian saying he's the best thing about it, didn't see that coming!

Heckler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121875772#Comment_121875772

Thats a shame what with him being an odious prick. Will give it a skip even though the original has great nostalgic value and I like Gyllenhaal.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121876507#Comment_121876507

In slim defence, by the trailer it looks like McGregor's character is also an odious prick, so I'm guessing he didn't have to go too Method to find the role.

Man Vs ManUre

For all the dislike here towards McGregor, since his run in with PJ Fallagher he has been on his best behavior. He stands up for the working class Dub, his pub is a Mecca for locals young girls and boys they idolise him and get to mingle with him. He puts political viewpoints out there for all to see, for the good of the average Joe excuse the pun, and gets bullied online by hardline lefties like Joe Brolly as a result. He hasn’t been that bad a fella fir the past year.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121876701#Comment_121876701

he was encouraging people to burn down buildings ffs

El Gato De Negocios

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121876701#Comment_121876701

A scumbag with money and influence is still a scumbag.

Agent Coulson

Drops at 07:00am GMT on Thursday.

Sugarlumps

Jake Gyllenhaal is a D list actor at best, and compared to his sister shesh.

McGregor to steal the show. 

gmisk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121915788#Comment_121915788

D list, naw.

Maybe look up the definition.

He has made some really odd/bad choices recently, but he has had some terrific films and performances nightcrawler, prisoners, southpaw. For something more recent I thought he was terrific in The Guilty, he tends to be watchable even in bad films imo.

No idea about McGregor when it comes to acting, but he makes my skin crawl.

I agree Maggie Gyllenhaal is an excellent actress.

~Rebel~

Y'know what, this was decent fun. Jake Gyllenhaal was such a great choice, his performance ties the whole thing together. As a movie it's got just the right balance of cheesy campiness and sincerity to make this sort of 80s remake work on its own terms, and Gyllenhaal's casual nothing-to-lose uber-confidence is a big part of that. Plenty of straight-faced little comedic beats throughout, and some solid action set pieces too, with some interesting fight cinematography.

Billy Magnussen's a great choice for a heightened smarmy nepo baddie-wannabe - not a million miles away from Josh Hutcherson's similar role in The Beekeeper.

McGregor is... ok. When it comes to any actual acting required, his performance is unsurprisingly pretty bad - but it's just blustery and loud and unhinged enough to get by, in small doses.

There is one henchman who steals every scene he's in though - 'broken arm' guy.

Sure look, it's not gonna win any awards, but it's a good time while you're watching it.

Ten of Swords

Liked it, pacing was good and the fight scenes were solid.

Billy Magnussen played his part to perfection, as did Sheriff 'Big Dick'

Conor McGregor had presence but his dialogue delivery wasn't great imo and broke the immersion for me. Also, whoever told him to do that demented smile in every scene probably thought it would give his character more menace - it absolutely did not 🤣

Not bad overall, a good remake

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121876701#Comment_121876701

He's off his trolley most of the time,

He's had about 5 alleged assault cases,lets not speak of his antics around women ,If anything his life look like its becoming increasingly unhinged & he looks likes like he has addiction problems in almost every interview, Money aside things look far form picture perfect,

He will get ko'd in his MMA return & things will spiral further, Reminds me of De La Hoya at the minute