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Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2024 - No PM requests - See Mod note post #1

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Michael1927


    Thanks for you advice. I definitely have the room for up to 18 panels as my roof is east west facing. Lots of light all day. My budget of around 8 - 8,500k is what's keeping me at around 14 - 16 panels, EDDI but no battery.

    I did discover that the contractor who quoted me for 16 panels is not on the SEAI website. He gave me a price to pay after the grant and said they would look after all the paperwork. I've checked and he's not SEAI registered for solar installation.



  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭keno-daytrader


    Ask him if trading under a different name, I know my installation company went by a different name on the SEAI website.

    BTW using 380w panels these days would also raise a concern for me, they are obviously years old stock.

    ☀️ 6.72kWp ⚡2.52kWp south, ⚡4.20kWp west



  • Registered Users Posts: 36 SeanieRetrofitter


    Just a tip for anyone looking for a quote. I saved about 25% on the next lowest quote by putting a post on the local Facebook page saying "Hey, has anyone got solar who can make a recommendation". It turned my solar install from "maybe-probably in a few months" to "as soon as you can get here with the panels.

    The installer is SEAI approved, and all's good there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭mjatkey


    All, firstly I want to say how useful and informative Boards is and that’s down to you guys and the depth of your combined knowledge and experience.

    In the last 3 or 4 weeks I've read nearly everything on Boards in anyway related to solar pv.

    This has led me to booking one of 3 companies that did site visits, it was tough making a decision as the final two were very close in both price and presentation.

    We are going for:

    12 × 435W LONGi Solar Hi-MO 6 Scientists, 8 on front true south facing roof (max we can fit) and 4 on the north facing roof. (may increase that on day of install to 8 based on my readings of the north facing panels piece here on Boards).

    1 × Solis S6-EH1P5K-L-EU 5000W Hybrid inverter, any comments on the series 6 compared to the series 5?

    1 × WeCo 5K3-LV-5.2 Battery

    Cost with grant <€8000 (for the 12 panels, additional on the day €180 each)

    Now I’ve asked the company a whole heap of questions, most of which they have answered ok.

    What I was looking for was advice regarding switching from 24hr to TOU electric contract.

    We have smart meter on 24hr contract with Electric Ireland due for renewal next month, I've already negotiated 22% discount from the 18% they were offering existing customers, but was wondering should I consider moving to TOU.

    Electric Ireland's smart deals don’t look that great and I don't like the big difference between their day and peak rates. (I know in theory that we should be able to smooth the peaks with the PV/battery) but the lower the difference the happier I'd be.

    Energia have what looks the best (dual fuel smart plan where the day and peak rate difference is small) so I am looking to switch to them.

    I’m assuming you can’t constantly charge and discharge during the night where you are buying electric at €0.16 and selling at €0.24, so would I be better with one of the tariffs that have the ultra low EV rates for just a few hours.

    I assume a 5Kw battery will easily charge to full in three hours (providing the house load is not massive)?

    Thanks in advance



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 M1andM2


    Hi folks,

    These posts are mighty for information so fair play to all. Narrowing down to 2 companies and looking for feedback on one quote please:

    Panels: Jinko 20 x 420-GR (8.40kW)

    Inverter:1 x GivEnergy 5.0 Gen3 Hybrid

    Battery: GivEnergy 9.5kW Gen2

    Quote: €12,100

    Grant: Not applicable (new build nearing completion)

    Deposit: 75% (not challenged yet, company has been mentioned positively but still very high)

    Thoughts?

    Post edited by M1andM2 on


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  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭keno-daytrader


    After what happened to Solarshare and all the people who basically had their deposits stolen, there is no way I would pay a company that kind of deposit, its outrageous.

    You dont mention pre or post grant or no grant?

    ☀️ 6.72kWp ⚡2.52kWp south, ⚡4.20kWp west



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 M1andM2


    Hi Keno,
    sorry I forgot to include. It’s a new build so no grant applied.

    Yes I have to ask them about the deposit if I decide to go with, don’t mind 20% ballpark but not 75%, I think it would be a no if they insisted on it.
    Thanks



  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭keno-daytrader


    Ok, the quote seems good. The price is in the ballpark that I was quoted for a similar system and I thought it was very competitive at the time.

    If your on the facebook group with 56k members, you can do a search or ask about the particular company over there. Its an excellent source of info, just be very wary of that deposit. 🤨

    ☀️ 6.72kWp ⚡2.52kWp south, ⚡4.20kWp west



  • Registered Users Posts: 282 ✭✭sasol


    QUOTE1

    14 Panel PV System - 430 Watt Panel - 6.02kW System. Longi panels

    Upgrade to Hybrid Inverter and 5kWh battery with Off-Grid Socket. Battery is Ergocell 5.12KWh. Hybrid Inverter is EC 5000

    Additional Roofs System Size: 09-14 panel

    Additional DC shunt

    No EDDI

    Total Pre-Grant : €13,030

    Total After Grant : €10,930

    QUOTE2

    18 Panel PV System - 430 Watt Panel - 7.74kW System. Longi panels

    Upgrade to Hybrid Inverter and 5kWh battery with Off-Grid Socket. Battery is Ergocell 5.12KWh. Hybrid Inverter is EC 5000

    Additional Roofs System Size: 15-19 Panel

    Additional DC shunt

    No EDDI

    Total Pre-Grant : €14,525

    Total After Grant : €12,425


    Thoughts please? New to this . Have started getting some initial quotes. Above seems expensive to me ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 usernamecharlie


    Can I get the name of the company the quoted you please?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Thinking I can do better but this is so far the keenest quote offered by anyone I've priced

    18 400 kw Jinko panels

    Huawei inverter

    Total 9k , that's if I don't bother with grant and pay him half of it in cash notes

    No battery and no EDDI, he says I don't need one , that some thing you link up with the immersion will do ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭keno-daytrader


    Why doesn't he want you to bother with the grant?

    Sounds like you should run quick if he wants half cash for such a big investment. Google what happened to Solarshare customers.

    ☀️ 6.72kWp ⚡2.52kWp south, ⚡4.20kWp west



  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Paying him cash for the Labour makes no difference to me and if it means a better deal, great

    The grant just results in companies jacking up the price as they know the customer will be getting back €2100

    His price of 9k is too expensive anyway, I'd consider 8k the max for eighteen 400 Jinko panels, Huawei inverter, no battery and no Eddi

    or 10 k if you want to go the grant route

    Unless something pops up , I'm postponing for a year , prices will come back as everyone wants at it right now



  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Compared to the half dozen quotes I've received, it's very good



  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    None of those quotes are particularly keen, albeit not extortionate relative to what I've encountered



  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭keno-daytrader


    Why would you think demand will reduce going forward?

    ☀️ 6.72kWp ⚡2.52kWp south, ⚡4.20kWp west



  • Registered Users Posts: 282 ✭✭sasol


    Another quote from a different provider today

    Quote 1

    17 x 435 watt panels (Trina Solar)

    Inverter : 5kw Huawei 1XSun2000-5KTL

    No battery

    No EDDI

    Total pre-grant : 9350

    Total after grant : 7250

    Quote 2

    17 x 435 watt panels (Trina Solar)

    Inverter : 5kw Huawei 1XSun2000-5KTL

    Battery : 5kw Huawei 1xLuna2000-5-S0

    No EDDI

    Total pre-grant : 12250

    Total after grant : 10150

    Provider is recommending the quote without the battery. His logic is that I will return enough to the grid during the summer, that it will offset my winter bills, meaning my annual electricity bills would net close to zero.



  • Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭conor_mc


    the real earner/saver of a battery is an EV tariff and sufficient capacity to avoid peak rate consumption from the grid.



  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    First one is great and I'd love to know who it's from



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  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    How much cheaper are Trina panels than Jinko?



  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Got what looks like an excellent quote this morning

    Seventeen 435 panels

    5k Huawei inverter

    Eddi

    BER

    No battery

    €9700 before grant

    €7600 after grant

    Salesman was an uncouth grunt but the price looks very appealing



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭bullit_dodger


    That looks pretty sweet deal. 7.35Kwp with Eddi for €7,600 after grant is excellent. Do you know if it's a hybrid inverter? Also, be aware that if you go Huawei you are pretty much locked into a Huawei battery if you did go/want one down the road.



  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Only hesitation I have is the company appears to be relatively small, can't find much about them



  • Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    Hi Guys,


    What do you think of this quote ?

    •    10 x 430w panels  
    •    Hybrid inverter 
    •    My Energi hot water diverter  
    •    Roof mounting equipment 
    •    All labour works
    •    All electrical testing and commissioning 
    •    Online monitoring to see each day exactly what your system is producing
    •    BER

    RRP
    €   8,000.00           Cost. 0% VAT Offer
    €   2,100.00           SEAI Grant
    €   5,900.00           Final Cost.



  • Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    Why dont you just use the davidhunt calculator to start with, to get an idea http://davidhunt.ie/solar/

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭mjatkey


    Guys, update now considering this quote same company.

    Way I see it is if we are getting work done then get most we can afford while the guys are onsite.

    16 × 435W LONGi Solar Hi-MO 6 Scientists, 8 on front true south facing roof (max we can fit) and 8 on the north facing roof.

    1 × Solis S6-EH1P5K-L-EU 5000W Hybrid inverter, any comments on the series 6 compared to the series 5?

    2 × WeCo 5K3-LV-5.2 Battery

    BER, etc.

    Price €10,700 with grant.

    Davidhunt:

    The value of the grant for this size array would be 2100. Using the rule of thumb of €1000 per kW of panels, €420 per kWh of battery, and €300 for the BER, that should be about €11628 for that system (after grant). That's a fantastic quote, go for it!

    I’m not sure that we will benefit/need the larger battery?

    We are 3/4 adult family, 3 bed semi, low consumption <3000Kwh for last 12 months based on ESBN HDF data

    Just looking for a second opinion or two?

    Thanks



  • Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    While your consumption is in the low range, be very aware that we are all being pushed to more electrical usage, EV's, Heat Pumps, IR heating(banning coal, wood, turf and even gas-coincidently all forms of power production that cannot be turned-off with a single switch) etc so your usage is never going to go down. While wholesale electric prices are trending down, at the moment, be assured that another mid-east or eastern euro conflict or even far-east war will be used to increase prices. Then you will be greatful that you have the ability to produce AND store cheap power

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭keno-daytrader


    gym_imposter, will you give them a large deposit?

    ☀️ 6.72kWp ⚡2.52kWp south, ⚡4.20kWp west



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