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The Ryan Tubridy Show **Mod: Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    In terms of some of the tech issues with the audio that you describe, I think one of the problems that you are referring to is the audio track going into a loop, buffering and then skipping. You are more than likely going to experience that when listening to the stream via Q102's website or app. This is more than likely an IP issue on their end and may need to be addressed my their Internet stream provider.

    Tubridy is liable to stick his foot in it also and that is why there is a specific producer and a team of tech operators assigned to his show. 99.9% of equipment interactions and operations are handled by the production team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    I hope Virgin/Q don’t poach Ray D’Arcy then!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭GSF


    we aren’t allowed to talk money on this thread, but there already seems to be more staff working on his show than any other show on Virgin Radio except the Chris Evans show


    PS it is unclear if this thread is discussing the Virgin Radio show or the Q102 show!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    They don't always make it clear. If there is a report about a Shamrock Rovers game on say Morning Ireland, the introduction to the audio from the Manager may just be "Stephen Bradley is the Rovers Manager".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,176 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    In context to over all sports on Morning Ireland I would guess that most people know that they are using audio from an interview pitch side or at a press conference after a match, the sound also changes.

    I am talking about an interview with a politician/spokesperson, almost always RTÉ News on TV and Radio will say, "Earlier I spoke with X early here is what they had to say".

    Or they will come back to the studio and the presenter will say "That was an interview from earlier today".

    As I say I don't like defending RTÉ but if I have to ….


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,586 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    LListened To tubs on Q102 today for the first time in ages. Must say he had a bit of chirpiness and gung ho about him that is badly lacking in the likes of Ray darcy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    He was very upbeat today alright, would agree on that, bordering on hyper at times. He’s not normally so full-on.

    I would stress I prefer the more relaxed version though, it’s more in fitting with the mid-morning slot. I tend to associate the more manic / hyper delivery with breakfast slots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The change to the sound is not always apparent to my ears. See if you can spot it at the start of the audio from Jacques Nienaber here at just before 2 minutes 30 . Or at the end. The format used there to identify it as a recording is "He's been telling Michael Corcoran". It can take many forms. There is another recorded audio insert at 4:10, on which my ears fail to spot a change to the sound.

    It would be clearer all round if they would just announce that the following audio is a recording and then announce the return to live content at the end.

    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22505485/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,176 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    0:26 he goes to an interview with adrian emmes, you can tell its pre-recorded, sounds different to me

    2:26 he introduces a pre-recorded interview with report micheal corcoran, he quotes the man being interview before he starts talking. Sound is similar, save for the reporter at one point and they are in a different building, clearly a report.

    04:03 he say the Hockey team are leaving this morning, clearly he's talking about a prerecorded interview he had with Sarah Hawkshaw … "has being telling me why"… he then finishes that with "Yeah that is Sarah and good luck to her"

    One thing in the world I hate is sports radio, and you have made me listen to it, I will there for stop arguing against RTÉ and continue to promote the good work that they do as a quality public service broadcast.

    Sports News is not news, much like Entertainment news.

    Another pin point to a recorded interview is "So and so has being telling me why".

    Or the daft thing they do with between anchor and reporter reporting on the scene…

    Reporter "I will just repeat what you said"

    Presenter "and I believe you were talking to so and so about it"

    Reporter "Yes, that is correct because this is a plan slot and here is so and so talking to me about this issue earlier"


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Ryan is interviewing Lara Pulver after the break……or at least I hope it’s after the break, he’s been teasing this all morning.

    I’ve noticed Ed Sheeran gets an almost daily play on the show now. I really don’t like his music and it takes a lot not to switch off or change station during his tracks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Straight back into music despite saying “coming up after the break my interview with Lara Pulver” (may not be verbatim but words to that effect)….🤷‍♂️ Who’s to blame on this - Ryan or the Producer?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Interview isn’t live* (again). Ryan gave it away at the start by saying “when I was talking to Lara Pulver earlier”.

    Lara used the word “delicious” describing other actors. Ryan has found a kindred spirit! Interesting lady, I’ve liked some of her work, but this is really just an ad for Mobland. Ryan bigs up the Irish connections from Brosnan starring to the Fontaines DC’s theme.

    Another music break in the middle of an interview - this really interrupts the flow of the interview and it’s a terrible decision to continue to do this.

    The RDS is off again for anyone interested, showing songs that haven’t been played. And guess who is being played now? Ed Sheeran!


    *In hindsight regarding their White Lotus conversation this conversation was I suspect recorded at least 2 weeks ago - which would make sense given she was in to promote Mobland which started on March 30th on Paramount.

    Post edited by Peter Dragon on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    Just got to listen to the first part of his link that went out at approx 12:30 today, it just amounts to warbled incomprehensible babbling. How can any English listener fathom what the hell he is saying? He is supposed to be branding himself as a bookworm but his diction is just downright disgraceful, not because of any genuine speech limitations on his part - it's just pure laziness.



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,535 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Interview isn’t live* (again). Ryan gave it away at the start by saying “when I was talking to Lara Pulver earlier”.

    Will you make up your mind. A few days ago you were complaining that he was playing prerecorded interviews without acknowledging they were prerecorded. Now he mentions that it was prerecorded and he "gave it away".

    Most interviews with any sort of "name" are prerecorded at this stage. They don't prioritise their time around holding on the line for an interview for an "inoffensive mid morning radio show".

    "Coming up after the break" doesn't mean immediately after the break. It means in the segment after the break.

    Have you ever listened to the radio Peter? It seems you don't really know how it works.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    When I say he gave it away he said “earlier” - I doubt I’m alone in thinking he meant earlier that day. The interview was clearly recorded weeks ago however not earlier today as evidenced by the references to The White Lotus.


    Was your final comment really necessary?



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,535 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Very little on this thread is necessary. But however...

    Does it matter? Really?

    Whether it was that morning, the day before, the week before. What does it actually matter?

    You are listening to background noise in the midmorning. Now you know most (all?) of his interviews with big names are more than likely prerecorded. And they most likely were not recorded that morning. He doesn't owe you an explanation as to the day, date and venue. If they were to go around explaining every tiny production detail and decision of a programme then there'd be little time left for actually doing the programme.

    And now you also know that "coming up after the break" doesn't mean immediately after the break. A music show will 99/100 play music coming out of a break, and then carry on with whatever content is next on the agenda.

    Now you know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paterson Jerins


    Wow, bizarre stuff. The tone from this post? Now you know!?!?

    Sure if that's the attitude. Very little on boards is necessary.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    The content of a show is what matters and the quality of that content. It doesn’t natter imho if it is live or prerecorded. You have to prerecord some segments based on contributor availability. I’d hazard a guess that 99.9% of listeners care only about what’s being said (if they’re even giving it their full attention at all) rather than when it was being said. IMHO if you find yourself being that wound up about it all it’s maybe a good idea to take a break and do something else for a bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,176 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Just to mention it seems that Tubs might have been broadcasting from Dublin yesterday.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    While whether content is recorded or live does not matter, intelligibility does. Were you able to form any sense of what he was talking (making vocal sounds) about? Or at least pick out any words? Has there been any online comment similar to yours from England, or any other reaction to this babbling?



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,535 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I know! None of it is necessary. It's a discussion site used for a bit of mild entertainment.

    Post edited by Big Bag of Chips on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    Response to @dxhound2005

    Do I or should I need any alternative online comment being generated from the UK similar to my own to validate what I have experienced?

    I don't think so

    However, I suppose I could find something online or or offline if I really wanted to as people within the industry have also questioned his ability at times to communicate clearly and coherently to the UK listener. So why should I? For the purpose of satisfying you? You are quite welcome to listen back to his show via The Virgin Radio player and monitor that link and make your own opinions.

    Post edited by nonetheless on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Very little on this thread is necessary. But however... 

    Does it matter? Really? 

    Yes, It matters to me and others who are used to the established norm of declaring an interview as pre-recorded if thus. I'm clearly not alone in this - other posters have voiced this exact and similar concerns. Are our opinions not valid? You’re absolutely free to disagree with me, I just ask that you not be so condescending in your reply. 

    Whether it was that morning, the day before, the week before. What does it actually matter?

    As per previous reply.

    You are listening to background noise in the midmorning. Now you know most (all?) of his interviews with big names are more than likely prerecorded. And they most likely were not recorded that morning. He doesn't owe you an explanation as to the day, date and venue. If they were to go around explaining every tiny production detail and decision of a programme then there'd be little time left for actually doing the programme.

    That is a false equivalence. I'm not asking for every tiny production detail to be explained. I'm simply asking that if an interview is pre-recorded it be declared as such - as with established norms established over decades of listening to radio in this country and others.

    I am absolutely enjoying the show - that does not however mean I think it’s radio nirvana or perfection and immune from criticism. I have repeatedly said though now in the fan camp I reserve the right to criticise where it is warranted - and this is an area where I feel it is.

    I’m also taking the time to contribute to the thread and give my opinions on it seems a more frequent basis than any other contributor to it - I haven’t counted but I’d imagine I’m there or thereabouts the poster with the highest post count in the last 2 months. I’ve commented largely positively, but have criticised mostly production issues which I feel take away from the enjoyment of the show. To be spoken to in the manner in which I have over your last two posts is I feel quite an attack, and feels rather personal in nature tbh. It’s like you’re honing in on one argument I’ve made and seeking ways to belittle me for same. I’ll repeat that my point on declaring an interview to be pre-recorded is a bad of courtesy to the listener and is part of the bond of trust between the host/station and the listener. I have not once said it detracts from the interview itself btw, I’m simply asking for clarity on what for may of us is an established norm.

    And now you also know that "coming up after the break" doesn't mean immediately after the break. A music show will 99/100 play music coming out of a break, and then carry on with whatever content is next on the agenda.

    It's not a music show though is it? It's a mix of music and chat with guests. And also, as I had pointed out, he’d been saying for the previous hour and 15 minutes+ that the interview was “coming up”

    Now you know.

    and from your previous post: “Have you ever listened to the radio Peter? It seems you don't really know how it works.”

    Again, why is this abrasive posting style necessary? I’m not alone in finding the tone of this wholly unnecessary and inappropriate judging by the comments. If you want us as posters to behave civilly towards one another surely these is an onus on you to behave in a similar manner?

    Radio as a whole but particularly this thread recently underwent a rewriting of the existing rules with eliminating bickering and in-fighting presumably being a main objective of same. I find the tone of this and your last post condescending, inflammatory, incredibly rude, sarcastic, and uncivil - and clearly I am not alone in this. I wrote to you personally last night twice - neither of which you acknowledged or had the decency to reply to. I asked you to reflect on your post, to apologise and to withdraw it. Instead you've doubled down on it. You wouldn't I suspect by accept this type of rude, aggressive and inflammatory posting between posters but appear to have given yourself a pass in this instance. I have been civil and courteous in my correspondence and I think that’s the least that should be expected in return.

    I don’t think it’s healthy that posting or that the manner of your recent posts is good for the thread. I therefore also reported your posts. As no action appears to have been taken and as you refuse to discuss it in PM, I'm asking can we move this to the Dispute Resolution Forum? 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    Even though I disagree with what Peter says a lot of the time I don’t think the post as being fair or acceptable”?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Well he introduced the show as being from the “top o the tower” so unless the tower is now in Dublin…..🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Thank you, I appreciate that. Though we disagree on a lot of items I have no issue with debate as long as it’s courteous, which I’ve always found yours to be. I hope I’ve behaved with similar curtesy in my replies to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,176 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Yeah I was checking that today, he was doing some quiz with Kathryn yesterday from Dublin, perhaps just a repost of and older item from her.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    Although l have not listened to the end of the Kathryn Thomas slot on Q102. There is a standard 2 way communication audio link between the studios in London and Dublin so Ryan could sound like he was sitting beside her so to speak.



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  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,535 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Yes, It matters to me and others who are used to the established norm of declaring an interview as pre-recorded if thus.

    Have you contacted the show to voice your concerns? Because I'm fairly certain none of them are reading this thread. If it matters to you that much provide feedback to the show. I'm sure they'd appreciate feedback from loyal listeners.

    I'm asking can we move this to the Dispute Resolution Forum

    No. You weren't given a warning.



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