150KTubs - future career in Virgin Radio and other soulful pursuits **Mod: Read OP**

CollyFlower

I'm starting to feel sorry for Ryan. 😔He must know he's not doing well at Virgin. Don't know how things work in there, do they have to keep him on until his contract ends or can they terminate anytime?

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122294514#Comment_122294514

That was a stiletto on the end of jackhammer. RTE management won't be pleased. As for Prone, when the story first broke, she was the one who called him The Ryanstone Cowboy. She doesn't mince her words about Tubridy.

Regards…jmcc

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122293642#Comment_122293642

Perhaps I didn't know this. Even still she does not seem to have anything outside of broadcasting to fall back on, but she may genuinely not want this career right now, she could come back.

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122294416#Comment_122294416

The article is very good but you are right:-

I wrote the following based on the headline, but in fairness to Terry Prone she pulls no punches, I was surprised it came from her : -

The glamour at RTÉ faded as soon as they moved into the TV studios in Donnybrook. You can see from old archive photographs the original visual intent of the architect, a modern set of buildings purposefully built to house TV studios with a contemporary elegant entrance. The long corridors facing out on to Montrose house in the leafy Dublin suburbs. At some point however the sufficiency of the design was lost in the hands of RTÉ, as Wardrobe was dropped into a central area only to make it look messy. The same can be said of the Radio centre, who's lobby has had 1990s kitsch lobbed on to it with a lack of vision that the original minimalist lobby would suggest.

Buildings that would invite big name stars, while showing the opulence of our old British colonial past, had turned into a rat infested delipidated set of studios, which RTÉ never cared to maintain.

Surely this lack of maintenance of the RTÉ studios over the years should have shown the lack of management skills at the broadcaster.

RTÉ, the media and our politicians are now fed up with the news that RTÉ isn't up to the job of even running a broadcaster let alone their own buildings in which their studios reside. The audience on the other hand are embarrassed by the broadcaster.

Terry Prone might be right to consider RTÉ to be some kind of glamourous deity in the halcyon days of the 60s, but by the 70s and 80s it had dipped out of favour with audience, and cast a shadow on a bleak austere era, by the 90s nothing had changed and by the heady days of the Celtic Tiger management were now thinking they were working at the BBC, it was far from the BBC they were raised.

Let management and staff at RTÉ look around a crumbling broadcaster, and consider that they forget the glamour and put on a pair of wellies and get to work.

HildaOgdenx

Switched on radio, Paul McCartney mentioned. I left it at that.

Hyperbollix

Mario Rosenstock really revelling in this! You get the feeling he had Tubs number from Day1 but couldn't open his mouth or lampoon him too heavily. Tubs held the keys to the late late show guest list and Irish entertainers need that promotional opportunity. Now yesterday's man, he's getting both barrels. 😂

Kingslayer

I wonder will Tubs mention how Taylor Swift is Irish now, and then swing it around to JFK?

supereurope

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122296267#Comment_122296267

Commercial stations tend to be pretty ruthless if a presenter isn't bringing the numbers in, even more so if the listenership is down on the previous presenter, so I'd imagine his contract would have a clear break clause in it.

HildaOgdenx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122296267#Comment_122296267

I'm starting to feel sorry for Ryan. 😔He must know he's not doing well at Virgin. 

I don't think he does realise it. I know he has to keep up the hearty tones obviously, but I would say he thinks he is flying it. I really would.

I have no sympathy for him. Greed was his downfall after all the years of being grossly overpaid for a job he was never suited to, in the first place.

nonetheless

Sampling some of the 2nd and 3rd hour. The theme based on first records bought and band names. The 11:18 am link made for pretty slick radio - Getting a lightbulb for a sowing machine.

Some redemption found at 11:28, a short introduction from Tubridy about the first record you may have bought - A link mostly engineered by the production team and a stark contrast to the usual mess.

At 11:33 Ryan comes back and does his own thing - McDonald's? Seagulls going bonkers? Then going to Bath? and then his voice just dramatically increased in pitch and intensity, the link then just exploded like the Death Star at the end of Star Wars. Even playing Shaboozey's 'A Bar Song' (Tipsy) in between could not make up for the chaotic presentation.

At 12:27 Coming out of 'Don't Stop Believin' led Ryan to announce "That was Journey" then angrily shouting JURNAY!! - possibly causing some listeners to experience a sudden jolt or possibly sending some into cardiac arrest whilst at the same time leading some to question the emotional health of the presenter.

12:58 To wrap up - Kicking walls in Dublin

Love Listening.

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122297633#Comment_122297633

Getting a lightbulb for a sowing machine.

beacuse it's radio that matters.

jmcc

RTE even out-Newscorp News UK. Lottie Ryan is gone after just a few weeks.

https://www.thesun.ie/tv/13234006/lottie-ryan-axed-drivetime-show-the-2-jonnies/

Wonder if News UK will be getting thoughts about Tubridy?

Regards…jmcc

yagan

Isnt Lottie an employee and not a contractor now?

Won't be surprised if 2fm will be the next under the axe.

leath_dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298302#Comment_122298302

That is one hell of a sub-headline: RTE has been accused of disrespecting the name of the late Gerry Ryan by badly treating his DJ daughter Lottie.

"Entitled, defined in a single sentence"

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298394#Comment_122298394

There's a chap in London who would have jumped at the chance to replace her. It is a bit of a shock though.

Regards…jmcc

supereurope

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298302#Comment_122298302

It seems that just like our friend Ryan, Lottie has been found out. I wonder if she has been making car ads on RTÉ grounds again? The sub-head now reads "RTE’s Gerry Ryan would ‘give bosses earful’ as ‘betrayed’ girl Lottie axed from new show and replaced with TikTok star" which sums up Lottie perfectly. She wasn't "betrayed", she was promoted beyond her abilities, solely because of who she is. All other things being equal, if she was Lottie Hogan, daughter of plumber Steve Hogan, we'd never have heard of her. Her entitled "My dad was a big star here so you owe me a living too" just proves that she's be nothing without her surname.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298513#Comment_122298513

It is RTE. There might be a sideways shift into management if she has some abilities in that area. It is certaintly a very different RTE from the Tubridy era-RTE. RTE does need to be seen to be doing something as the RTE licence fee issue hasn't been sorted out yet.

Regards…jmcc

tohaltuwi

An Empress without clothes, so to speak.

Tork

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298578#Comment_122298578

The question is why they should be facilitating her at all. Maybe they're stuck with her but other than that, I can't see why she's on RTE's books at all. Especially when the station is looking for voluntary redundancies.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298513#Comment_122298513

Gerry Ryan died 14 years ago last April. To put that into perspective, there is a large swathe of 2FM's current listeners who know very little about him. At best they might've heard him on the kitchen radio when they were growing up but that's the extent of their experience of him. Sadly for his family and for his fans, he's a long-gone relic of the past. He might as well be Din Joe as far as the younger generation are concerned.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122299848#Comment_122299848

Probably a sense of guilt over Gerry Ryan's death. A bit like Gerry Ryan's teaboy, radio broadcasting doesn't seem to be her thing.

Regards…jmcc

NIMAN

HAs Lottie a famous agent? To get such a sub headline written?

NIMAN

Re: that new Tubs gift grub.

It was pretty poor overall I thought, like most GGs for the last decade. Well past its sell by..

But I do wonder how come such a huge name like Tubs never had any sketches about him over the 14yrs he was at the LLS?

Had Mario no balls to slag him? How brave of him now to start taking digs.

nonetheless

Cannot say I am a fan of Lottie but Dan Healy has a lot to answer for. That guy has not got clue what he is at.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122300110#Comment_122300110

She was previously NKM but parted ways when the Tubridy payments scandal emerged.

Regards…jmcc

hawley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122300116#Comment_122300116

That episode of Gift Grub is two years old. I stopped listening to it fifteen years ago.

Red Fred

Bryan loved and misses Top of the Pops but yet can't be sure what night it was broadcast on.

Field east

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298394#Comment_122298394

maybe the probation period was used - one can let go an employee during the probation period without giving any reason

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122300969#Comment_122300969

"You're sh1t Lottie, away you go".

nonetheless

Came across as being a little unsympathetic of Celine Dion who is suffering from stiff person syndrome. Q102 then carried a commercial that is supposed to be for LMFM. Discussed Italian perceptions of crimes against the preparation and eating of pasta for which he believes he is innocent for the most part. Couldn't say the same about crimes committed against radio.

supereurope

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122300936#Comment_122300936

Tbf, it did move around the schedules a bit in its later years. From Thursdays to Fridays and then to Sundays.

I've been watching the TOTP repeats on BBC4 every Friday for the last few years (once they hit the mid-80s), they're now up to April 1996, so the move to Friday nights, now considered the beginning of the end for TOTP, is just around the corner.

nonetheless

And now Donncha O'Callaghan's exit from 2fm is coming soon...

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122302449#Comment_122302449

Confirmed:

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2024/0625/1456619-donncha-ocallaghan-to-leave-2fm-breakfast-show/

Regards…jmcc

NIMAN

Sinking ship.

nonetheless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122302472#Comment_122302472

Dan is going to be a busy man between now and when he takes his holidays.

odyssey06

Should just turn 2Fm over to RTE Gold crew and be done with it!

That's a lot of vacancies on RTE Radio… good job Tubs is tied up nicely in London.

RoTelly

The currently podcast got a mention in todays Irish Indo and might cause some people to tune in, so far it has 255 view, but over all on YouTube it is a slow burner for all of these episodes. Brian Cox's episode has faired the worst, with Doireann's not gaining much traction after the first week.

nonetheless

With all that is happening at 2fm, I have no doubt that Ryan will release a series of puff pieces shortly as it looks like he is drifting towards insignificance.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122302584#Comment_122302584

If there's a 2FM left for him after his holidays. Would not be surprised to see some people in the entertainment media claim that Tubridy should get a job there. That rate of loss of talent is unsustainable.

Regards…jmcc

yagan

I can imagine how off putting 2fm can be for advertisers when there's plenty of alternatives.

Kingslayer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122302584#Comment_122302584

I can see him hiring Jedward if this jumping ship trend continues!

nonetheless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122302973#Comment_122302973

A really good radio PD or consultant would take the current exodus of these presenters at 2fm and use it as an opportunity to try something new, address the radio station's overall programming and sound as opposed to replacing like with like. Even if they were to keep all of those names that have exited, 2fm's audience share is not good. They can't really go down the AC/MOR/RTE Gold road as although not legally, there is an expectation as a public service broadcaster that 2fm should cater to a young audience whilst RTE Radio 1 provides for an older one. It's how effectively and efficiently 2fm can target that audience. Are they capable of real change? Do they want to change? And if so, do they have the right people in place to that and do it successfully? Unfortunately from my point of view I don't think so.

Tork

Is being a youth station really a public service in 2024? For many years it was, simply because it was the only legal pop music station around. That demographic is well catered for now, nationally. Once you move past the 15-35 age bracket or whatever it is these days, you're into a varied market. Somebody who's 40 or 45 is unlikely to share the same musical tastes as a 55 or a 60 year old, let alone older. Yet Radio 1 is supposed to keep all these people happy? The kids who grew up with 2FM in its heyday aren't well catered for by commercial radio now, especially outside of the cities. Would that not be a public service, seeing as nobody else seems to want them?

nonetheless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122303486#Comment_122303486

Although I personally don't agree, some may argue that folks who were generally catered for by 2fm in it's heyday are now serviced by RTE Gold. But in my opinion RTE Gold's playlist maybe misinterpreted as being comprehensive compared to the other Irish AC/MOR/Classic Hits radio stations when it really is highly fragmented and of course it is not available on FM. I do believe that RTE - whether it's through Gold or some other service could be offering a more comprehensive music service to cater for that 40-55 age group that you mentioned. There are also others who would feel very strongly that RTE Gold should be left as it is. In my opinion 2fm does not need to be under the definition of CHR, rather it could adopt a unique US style HotAC sound with a carefully selected CHR element and presentation. And yes, RTE Radio 1 alone does not service the music needs of that older audience.

nonetheless

As I have stated before, not a fan of Lottie but this doesn't put Dan Healy in a good light.

https://extra.ie/2024/06/25/entertainment/lottie-ryan-rte-under-pressure?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3gLL1rvu6l0o_6D538cBYvwLYY8mSBsOpJ45MTbW1Au72atO7OjQ6OlMg_aem_7o5ucm85Db5-fKmogYEIDA&sfnsn=wa

Tork

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122303939#Comment_122303939

RTE Gold is only online though and it doesn't have the profile of 2FM. I think Gold would have an instant audience if it was switched to FM and they didn't mess around too much with the formula. In other words, no sticking talk shows into the middle of it or having the content veer too wildly about the place. Really though, we're just playing Fantasy Radio Stations here. You just know Dan Healy is going to continue down the road he's on, no matter how many times it blows up in his face.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122303969#Comment_122303969

This is a rather odd quote from the same article "There’s a lot of support for Lottie. While it’s not support for Lottie per se but more the issue. People in there really detest anyone being treated badly. And she has been treated deplorably,’ revealed the source."

It doesn't suggest that they're clamouring for her return (is anyone?) but he is in danger of turning her into an unlikely martyr. I don't think she's good enough to be presenting a national radio show but she should never have been promoted to this position. Was there any sort of plan when he gave her the gig? I assume that photo of her and David O'Reilly was taken after their pairing was announced?

nonetheless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122304234#Comment_122304234

It looks like she was led to believe that it was her gig but they were really looking for a more high profile replacement for the 2 Johnnies. Kevin Backhurst is also involved here as he is effectively wielding an axe to all of those extra perks that those presenters were availing of or could potentially benefit from.

mountain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122303969#Comment_122303969

oh ffs,

Trash piece

Gen.Zhukov

That Extra article looks like very typical 'agent spin' if I'm honest - Now, when all these people announced they were cutting ties with the beautiful Mr Kelly, I'm just not convinced that is the case -

We had Ciara Kelly, Ciara Doherty and Lotto Ryan (and others) dumping Mr K, however, I doubt it's that easy to dump the little fella. He does like his contracts after all and very little seems to have changed with the puff piece output in the daily rags since

The little fella, in a fine but angry voice: ♫ ♪ ♬ ♩ 'You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar…when I met you…'♫ ♪ ♬ ♩

supereurope

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122304285#Comment_122304285

I thought it was clear at the time that Lottie and David were summer cover for Drivetime and they didn't have the slot permanently. I mean, that's what it said in the papers, so I assume the two knew that as well? That they've been pulled so quickly suggests that listener figures must have plummeted or feedback was terrible, normally new presenters or presenter combinations are given a few months to bed in. I remember listening to Dermot and Dave in their early shows on 98FM in 2003 and they were awful, but they grew into the roles. Pulling new presenters after three weeks suggests something is seriously wrong.

Tork

Goes to show how irrelevant Tubridy has become, that the thread has turned into one about Lottie Ryan!