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150KTubs - future career in Virgin Radio and other soulful pursuits **Mod: Read OP**

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    #152
    Ash.J.Williams
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121578117#Comment_121578117

    I wonder what boc would do if he was offered 90k for his next contract, 90k is a nice little top up to any salary, I'd say he'd take it 😂



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    #153
    jmcc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121578097#Comment_121578097

    Way too early for that kind of move and it would make a lot of people look stupid for Virgin hiring him. The first RAJAR and JNLR figures might have some input on what happens but it also depends on the contract with Virgin.

    Regards...jmcc



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    #154
    FattyBolger
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121577947#Comment_121577947

    That reminds me of when the usual head the ball conspiracy theory types on, yes, Facebook cite RIP.ie posts instead of CSO figures as their source for “excess deaths” or whatever.

    The kind of people who don’t “trust the government” or think “RTE is the real virus” but will swallow any old shít they see on Facebook or Twitter.



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    #155
    squonk
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    I would imagine the PP sponsorship is tied to the host rather than the slot. Let’s face it, I’d doubt NK is that stupid? Even so, I’d say PP threatening to pull its advertising off Tubbs was to be let go would steady a few heads. I would imagine it’s NK doing the deals here rather than PP directly and PP aren’t exactly stuck for UK promotion anyway. I’d imagine NK has a budget to play with and is using it accordingly with “star” appearances from PP himself thrown in to fasten tge deal.



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    #156
    Ash.J.Williams
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121578189#Comment_121578189

    Or renounce vaccines manufactured in sterile labs but are fiends for the coke made in a hole in a forest



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    #157
    FattyBolger
    Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭FattyBolger


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121578209#Comment_121578209

    Yes. Being totally frank, those are the kind of people who I would assume take Facebook comments seriously, or post comments about radio presenters on Facebook in the first place. Facebook is an irreversibly tainted platform for howyas.



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    #158
    jmcc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,319 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Excess deaths is a very different metric (more available data and more reliable data) to the immediate Sentiment Analysis that Social Media provides.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentiment_analysis

    Feedback on Social Media is often quite raw and unfiltered. Negative feedback always appears quickly but it only becomes a problem if it gains momentum and becomes sustained. The danger is that "influencers" would start commenting negatively. That hasn't happened yet. Tubridy may have to tone down the wibbling about Ireland and start concentrating on London and UK events. But that might not work for his Irish listeners.

    Regards...jmcc



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    #159
    fplfan12345
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    What about ‘influencers’ that are being paid to post positive comments ?

    Will he be on dodgy ground when they run out of money to pay them ?



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    #160
    Yellow_Fern
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121576416#Comment_121576416

    Hilarious post



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    #161
    Ash.J.Williams
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121578283#Comment_121578283

    Nice turnaround



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    #162
    jmcc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121578384#Comment_121578384

    They might find their influence to be much less than they expected if the sentiment turns overwhelmingly negative. Their posts won't matter then. Tubridy's fame was very much a product of RTE's marketing and the speed at which the public changed their minds about him and the TV licence was amazing. RTE had tens of millions of Euro worth of problems with licence fees and had to be bailed out again. He went from being, as his supporters called him, "the most trusted man in Ireland" to being the face of the RTE payments scandal. That's what can happen when negative sentiment cascades. The time from him being taken off-air to being dumped by RTE was only a few weeks.

    The PR fluffers in the media tend to get ignored when sentiment goes negative as people begin to talk to each other on Social Media and in real life.The PR people and influencers lose control over the narrative. The puff pieces will still appear but there will be a hunt for negative stories because those get readers. Not sure that Tubridy in the UK market has that kind of disaster potential as he's not even a Z-lister in terms of UK radio.

    Regards...jmcc



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    #163
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121578483#Comment_121578483

    When this scandal emerged first, I was sitting in a coffee shop minding my own business, focussing on something entirely outside media, boards, etc etc. surrounding me were a lot of people my own vintage and older mainly minding their own business, and they weren’t on Facebook etc. one of them spotted the news and made a surprised sounding comment about what had emerged, like any breaking news it attracted attention of people around. Suddenly the coffee shop erupted in chat between strangers expression their opinion in the real world, and, let’s put it this way, it more politely reflected what then emerged on social media. People are “braver” on social media, but people in the real world harbour similar opinions and no entity can control that.



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    #164
    Bobson Dugnutt
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    #165
    squonk
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121578483#Comment_121578483

    I think his popularity was manufactured by RTE. Yes, he was popular because he was TLLS host along with the other slot benefits this afforded. People will watch the late late by default. Certainly those of a certain age. It doesn’t matter if my dog or Gaybo is presenting. I think most people thought it was rubbish, but he didn’t put anybody’s nose out of joint enough to bother anyone either. I think RTÉ got away with a lot, because people will largely just accept what’s given to them and leave the shows on in the background or else change channel or hit the streaming box. I really don’t believe there was actually a growing swell of popular support for Tubbs beyond a few more deluded people. I think largely people just put up with him. However, once it emerged that he was not Mr Nice and also that RTÉ had been pissing away the licence fees paid for by the working people of Ireland, it was the straw that broke the camels back. I think the lesson in all of this is that if you’re fairly established in Ireland, you can get away with a lot of mediocrity and just giving people what you want to give them and even though they’re annoyed with you they won’t say much. Just don’t overly take the piss out of them or you’re finished.



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    #166
    yagan
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121578150#Comment_121578150

    I don't think anyone cares in that station. If they were they'd have words with him about rapid patter and general diction.

    If his only value is to get paddypower money then mission accomplished, next.



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    #167
    FattyBolger
    Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭FattyBolger


    There’s definitely been a “waking up from being under a long spell” feeling with most of the people I have spoken to about the end of Ryan Tubridy’s prominence as a broadcaster.

    The consensus seems to be that though he is a decent pair of hands as a presenter but, in retrospect, everyone has realised that he is nowhere near talented or engaging enough to have been the number one guy in both radio and tv for fifteen years. He was just a part of the firmament for years without anyone really thinking about it if he deserved to be.

    That being said pretty much all of the blame regarding the secret salaries and stuff can only really be levelled at RTÉ. They signed the cheques, they covered it up. The buck stops with them.

    Ryan Tubridy is, from what I can tell, a decent skin but an airhead. Like most people in the media he is not particularly bright or engaged. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he didn’t even know anything about RTE’s jimmying of the accounts and it came as a complete surprise to him when he allegedly found out in March last year and promptly jumped ship.

    I find this over-correction towards Ryan Tubridy to be in really bad taste, there is an overwhelmingly negative element online who constantly criticise every word he says and mock every single one of his foibles like sneering high school bullies. They have themselves convinced that they’re the good guys but they’re not really, they’re just opportunists looking to have a go at someone. Bullies.



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    #168
    Morgans
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    I think there's a lot of sense in what your are saying. Ryan has been the beneficiary of being managed for decades. However he (and his fas) have mistaken that for earning his position from his talent. It may be that the real culprits in the payment scandals are Dee Forbes and the relationship with Noel Kelly. I can believe that. But I can see why others would have a less generous view of Tubridy, who chooses to use NK. Commupance is a bitch and people who have been condescended to for decades can enjoy it.

    However Ryan's fans, both paid and unpaid on here and elsewhere have been very quick to label measured criticisms of Ryan himself or the system that led him to his exalted position in Irish media as the output of sad, lonely individuals. We'll add bullies to the list now.



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    #169
    Bobson Dugnutt
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    To the more casual or occasional poster/visitor to the radio forum there is the presence of a pretty nasty clique who seem to take delight in trying to “one up” each other in being nasty and spiteful. It goes far beyond criticism (ironically enough, something some of them appear incapable of receiving themselves) and into the realm of cyberbullying.

    I read somewhere else that a former moderator in the forum was harassed off the entire site, and that there was even an attempt made to dox him on another site.

    It’s all a bit toxic around here. A forum about listening to the radio. It’s pretty weird, tragic and utterly bizarre when you give it any thought (which you shouldn’t).



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    #170
    Ash.J.Williams
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121579106#Comment_121579106

    It's not toxic at all, you could say people were hearing the show and wondering why this guy was being paid nearly a million a year, and they were right to point out the value for money was rather poor



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    #171
    Loafing Oaf
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121579106#Comment_121579106

     there is the presence of a pretty nasty clique who seem to take delight in trying to “one up” each other in being nasty and spiteful. 

    And you posting about it over and over again is the way to cure that?

     It’s pretty weird, tragic and utterly bizarre when you give it any thought (which you shouldn’t).

    Why are you constantly obsessively posting about it then?



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    #172
    Ash.J.Williams
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121579217#Comment_121579217

    You'd swear he worked for noel Kelly or something



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    #173
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users Posts: 16,054 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121579231#Comment_121579231

    amd was on a kamikaze mission to get all threads about Tubridy shut down, which would obviate any necessity to post in the Great Man's defence...



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    #174
    Ash.J.Williams
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121579323#Comment_121579323

    Which is far weirder than posting about the radio in fairness



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    #175
    ErnestBorgnine
    Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭ErnestBorgnine


    If Tubridy had held his hands up and said 'i've fucked up. The whole thing wasn't my idea but i see why people might see it as a bit shady, and i should have put a stop to it and worked out a different deal' i think he'd still have a career with RTE.

    People wouldn't have liked it, would have grumbled about it in typical Irish fashion but that would have been about it.

    But the sheer hubris of Noel 'What's an invoice?' Kelly and Tubs' 'i only want to help the kids and make the world a better place' nauseatingly self-serving speech in front of the committee sealed his fate imo.



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    #176
    Ash.J.Williams
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121579106#Comment_121579106

    The "clique" is in your imagination

    And I'm impressed you've associated this imaginary clique with an un verified bullying incident, it's as if you are attempting to create issues where there is none. Could it be possible the issue lies somewhere between your chair and the keyboard?



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    #177
    Chocolatier
    Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭Chocolatier


    I tuned in briefly out of curiosity. Not the right vehicle for him, I'd say. He sounded like a DJ with no researchers to provide him with interesting material. He'll need to snap out of his mother Ireland chat and into London mode fairly soon if he intends to make it work.



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    #178
    Hyperbollix
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121579342#Comment_121579342

    Of course, he's the instigator of his own fate here. A man who climbs to the top of the RTE pay scale, presents the flagship chatshow for 14 years and has aspirations for the Phoenix Park in his future, isn't going to be simply escorted to the main door at Montrose and booted in the arse on his way out. He is above reproach to the extent that Bakhurst was quite happy to renew his contract last autumn and get him back on a primetime radio slot, probably his daily 9am address to the little people of Ireland.

    Bakhurst had no qualms about giving the staff the finger to re-instate his lordship, despite the meltdown situation in RTE continuing and the licence fee fiasco probably going out of control as a result of it. That tells you how bulletproof Tubs was. All he had to do was be a small bit contrite on Day1 back in September, just be tactful and admit to a bit of the fault himself. But he couldn't do it. Beyond him. I'd say Bakhurst knew he would use his first show back to settle scores and throw the DG and everyone else under the bus live on air. He couldn't risk that, so Tubs was let go. I couldn't be happier for him!

    On the "In the News" podcast which covered Tubs first week, the question came up about whether a return to RTE is in the offing down the road. The contributor believed it was unlikely given the anger still within RTE. I think he over estimates how deeply embedded in "Official Ireland" Ryan Tubridy is and how disinterested in the feeling of lowly staffers and certainly the general public the DG actually is. I would place a large bet, with Paddy Power of course, that Tubridy will be broadcasting from RTE again in the short to medium term. Memories are short and there is an audience for his brand of beige in Ireland that doesn't exist anywhere else. Mainly though, Tubs is a paid up member of the "one big club" that the rest of us aint in. So even if worst case scenario his media career hits the rocks, one of his many cronies will put him on a board somewhere and give him a handsome salary for being Ryan Tubridy. He will never know a day's hardship. Which is why I will never worry about being accused of "bullying" or whatever nonsensical auld blather his fanboys come up with in an attempt to stop honest debate.



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    #179
    DaithiMa
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121579106#Comment_121579106

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    #180
    Ash.J.Williams
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121580296#Comment_121580296

    Not particularly interested because it's so blatantly obvious, however I'd like to know if boards are involved



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    #181
    Ash.J.Williams
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121580296#Comment_121580296

    But yes do show the proof 😂😂



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