Madame Web

LambshankRedemption

If I had the power to go back in time and change some small thing for the betterment of humanity, I would go back and prevent the Sony Marvel deal from ever happening.

Speaking as a lifelong Webhead, I have found almost all the Spidey related movies to be terrible, with a couple of exceptions.

I'm not very familiar with the original Madame Webb, other than knowing she is much older than what was portrayed in that trailer. It actually looks like they have created a brand new character based extremely loosely off of the name and some of the powers. When did that last work out well? I think Venom 1 was a bit of a fluke, because I hated Venom 2.

I've got precious enough time to watch the movies I am interested in, I've managed to miss Morbius, and from what ive read i didn't miss much, I can't see myself spending 20ish quid to go watch this.

silverharp

good attitude

https://twitter.com/kirawontmiss/status/1764154486216425767

Rossie4ever

Haven't seen this yet. When I watched the trailer for this it looked really bad. I'll wait until it's out on streaming as I kinda want to see how bad it is

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121845399#Comment_121845399

I've not seen her in much but not getting this boosting of Sweeney I've seen a lot lately across media uh, "discourse", beyond all seeming all a bit "pretty blonde with a nice rack". Not that that hasn't been enough for a Hollywood career in the past, and nothing wrong with admiring a pretty face, but not getting what makes her standout either.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121845696#Comment_121845696

Really liked her in ‘Reality’, really strong performance.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121845770#Comment_121845770

Fair enough and as I said haven't seen her in much other than trailers and bits n bobs; not quite getting the juice she's receiving beyond the aforementioned lustiness.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121845804#Comment_121845804

Worth watching her in that alright… basically a one-location stage performance where she has to carry the whole film.

I didn’t know much of her before I saw it and came out thinking this lady was a real potential star.

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121845804#Comment_121845804

Her looks are a huge part of it tbh. I mean by all accounts shes not a bad actress but she knows what she looks like and definitely puts her best assets forward (shes claimed herself that she has the best boobs in Hollywood).

silverharp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121845900#Comment_121845900

doing Marvel movies wont help her then, you barely get to see ankles these days 😀

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121845900#Comment_121845900

Will be interesting if that works for her, given how sexless Gen Z are when it comes to cinema - though maybe figure generations will swing back towards films with sex appeal. Funny the Guardian article even uses a pic of Sweeney in its header.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/oct/25/gen-z-less-sex-tv-movie-trend

gmisk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121845770#Comment_121845770

She is very good in that, it is on Amazon prime now for anyone that wants to check it out.

RobbingBandit

Considering how Madame Web the character was used in Spiderman The Animated Series for the multiverse Peter Parkers and Secret Wars you'd really think Disney would have fought tooth and nail to protect this IP from whatever this is but Sony owns it so they don't bow down to the queen of hipsters at Disney.

Absolutely ducked scenario that is Kang is probably Disneys focus Currently and I don't really see Secret Wars happening the way it did in the comics or cartoons, they will probably do a hunger games battle royale PC love fest instead.

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121846293#Comment_121846293

She not Megan Fox solely relying on looks for her career, she is a competent actress. Just her looks/body are a considerable bonus that elevate her above other competent actresses she'd be competing with for roles.

She wont struggle for work and has a niche that doesnt have much competition (possibly due to that sexless thing).

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121846348#Comment_121846348

I suppose it depends on the wording of the original Sony and Marvel deal with regard to Spidey. How much of the Spiderman IP is included in the deal, I don't know.

I wonder is this movie sort of Sony's answer to The Marvels, with their 3 or 4 female sub-characters who seem to have powers of their own.

Spon Farmer

None of these movies make any sense without Spider-Man especially Venom - which is decent but why does Venom look like Spider-Man in a world where there is no Spider-Man.

The whole thing is made more nonsensical I was told because Uncle Ben and Peter’s mother are in this and she gives birth at some point in the movie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121845900#Comment_121845900

I believe it was her grandmother who said it.

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Spon Farmer

I’ve enjoyed all the MCU Spider-Man movies but would have preferred if they had kept Peter as more of a crime fighter in his solo movies and up against a couple of his rogues gallery in each film, like Homecoming.

I don’t like that they killed or wiped the world of the memory of Parker, it is too dark and Spidey needs to be more light hearted.

I read they want Holland for another trilogy but the way it looks now is they’ll be lucky to get him for one more, because Holland said himself he doesn’t want to be playing the role in his 30s and time to move on to Miles Morales.

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121862462#Comment_121862462

Yeah, in this, Madame Webb's paramedic partner is a guy called Ben Parker. I suppose you could argue its a prequel except its set in modern times(?).

Venom 1, I did enjoy, but you did have to ignore the venom costume looking like the Venom post-Spidey interaction from previous comics and movies.

But this retconning when there is already established characters and backstories is tiresome.

Foxtrol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121862580#Comment_121862580

This is set in early 2000s which ties to around the age Peter should be in our timeline

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121862868#Comment_121862868

Which timeline?

Foxtrol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121875518#Comment_121875518

Holland or a usual Spider-man aged character in general.

CastorTroy

Looks like it's been released digitally today.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121896035#Comment_121896035

Not entirely surprising really; $96 million made worldwide, barely creeping over its supposed budget of $80 million so a definitive flop without anyone having lost their shirt.

gmisk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121896124#Comment_121896124

I didn't know it's numbers were that bad, but it looked absolutely horrific.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121896138#Comment_121896138

Oh yeah; not entirely surprising given the collective hammering it has received. You gotta wonder about the projections for the still yet-to-come movies like Kraven.

I've also seen it suggested by some that these god-awful Sony movies are tangentially hurting the MCU brand and ... while a bit of a stretch, not an entirely incredulous one either.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121897398#Comment_121897398

Certainly didn't help that Vulture from the MCU got transported to the Sony Spider-Verse, and showed up in the post credits of Morbius with his equipment (where did he get that?) and had a complete personality change, and wanted to team up with Morbius to take on Spider-Man even though Spider-Man hasn't been shown to exist in that universe yet.

Sony clawing for any tenuous connection to the main MCU even when it makes no sense. It does kind of hurt the MCU by association.

CastorTroy

So all you need to be an EMT is know how to do chest compressions without even bothering to check if they're needed?

Homelander

I watched this out of pure curiosity, and honestly maybe because I expected the worst movie of all time I was surprised. It's not "good" exactly, but not as bad as the ratings suggest, it's certainly no worse than the likes of Wonder Woman 84. It was completely watchable and Dakota Johnson is fine, as is Sydney Sweeney and the other two girls.

Still haven't been able to bring myself to watch Morbius or Aquaman 2 though.

gmisk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121904551#Comment_121904551

Wonder Woman 1984 was a mess I would agree on that, but I would watch it again over Madame Web tbh. Dakota Johnson was just such and odd stilted presence (I know she can act I have seen her in other things) it also has an absolutely abysmal villain (were his lines all re-recorded or what?) as well at least Wonder Woman 1984 had some fun with the villains Pedro Pascal and Wiig, Gadot fits the role well and the film looked interesting and had some fun, inventive ideas.

Morbius I would put above Madame Web too, you can see what they were going for at least and Matt Smith is terrific.

pixelburp

The critical part of Wonder Woman 84 was ... it was clearly someone's vision, and had a tempo all of its own. Maybe not all of it worked but arguably this was the first Superhero film in a long while that openly tried to recapture the Richard Donner era, gee whizz adventure energy the genre used to have. It leaned into the cornball, the bright colours but didn't quite have the follow through to make it all work & come together. It was a failure, but a failure worth diacussing.

B.A._Baracus

Watched it and its not as bad as people say, sure its not great but its watchable.