Dublin airport new routes 2024

Ben D Bus

TLV is officially gone for 2024.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0205/1430541-israel-el-al-ireland/

wangchung

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121723434#Comment_121723434

Great news. Pity the Irish Govt didnt tell them not to fly here before this announcement

SaoPaulo41

Any plans for direct flights to Latin America, specifically Brazil?

EchoIndia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121723465#Comment_121723465

Well discussed in the Aer Lingus thread -the consensus is "not a chance".

SaoPaulo41

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121724361#Comment_121724361

Ah ok thanks

dublin12367

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121724361#Comment_121724361

Not a chance with aerlingus but didn’t they daa say they were talking with latam?

jwm121

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121724888#Comment_121724888

Probably ended since the cap is in place. The cap is ruining everything. EDI and MAN already incentivising airlines to choose them over Dublin.

davebuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121725168#Comment_121725168

The green party are doing their best to ensure these airlines overfly Dublin going forward, shame about the potential jobs that will not exist now both direct in Dublin airport and the wider tourist related industries... Talk about an own goal!!

dublin12367

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121726392#Comment_121726392

There has been a lot of talk this weekend in the papers in relation to the cap. All top government seem to support it. I highly doubt we will be left waiting a long time for it to be overturned.

jwm121

Everyday it's getting more and more popular, everyone is talking about this cap now.

Qaanaaq

Do you mean the cap is getting more popular or the removal of the cap is gaining more popularity ?

LimaRomeo990

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121735237#Comment_121735237

I’d say the cap getting more popular is one thing because there’s lots posted about it on Twitter/X and the weird comments from people mentioning Shannon/Cork/Knock and the amount of spare capacity they have. People think transferring flight is a option as well to those airports which is complete nonsense.

dublin12367

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121735237#Comment_121735237

I would say most people support the removal of the cap, the exceptions being the greens, the few residents, and the few that think keeping it will benefit the regional airports. None of these arguments stand up and are just personal agendas of a few, at a cost to many.

However, since the weekend and to date, there has been a major increase in reporting and debating this cap compared to recent weeks, much of it in support. Ryanair are currently having a back and forth with the greens on twitter and tensions are definitely rising to get this removed as quickly as possible.

The daa have suggested the possibility of introducing a temporary cap of 35 million pending full assessment of this infrastructure application. I would say that’s due to the bus access catering for 35 million which was announced Monday. This will probably be looked into if fingal approves the infrastructure application and it’s then appealed to ABP where a long delay will likely occur which will create the need for a temporary solution.

A temporary cap will give Dublin a grace period and allow it attract new routes and compete with its EU competitors in the short term and ensure Ireland does not lose out.

Van.Bosch

Dublin airport should ignore the cap, let the market decide the demand and then shut the airport completely when the cap is reached - probably around late November/early December.

EchoIndia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121736359#Comment_121736359

As a commercial (though State-owned) entity the DAA is surely obliged to trade and operate prudently, which presumably is why they are demonstrating efforts to comply with the current planning permission. If you are looking for further permissions, disregarding existing ones is probably not a wise course. While Government can and does transmit signals through the comments of various senior Ministers etc., it does not run or control the planning process. As is often stated, business always seeks certainty so that it can plan accordingly. Playing some sort of Russian Roulette as regards whether or not the airport would shut down after 11 months would be a foolish gambit on a whole range of fronts and if suggested would have to be considered in detail by the DAA Board amongst others. I could not see any such policy being approved by anyone who was actually responsible for making and standing over such a decision.

Van.Bosch

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121736427#Comment_121736427

Ah yeah agreed, I was more talking in jest. You’d imagine someone in government is checking the monthly pax numbers to project the year end figure too so it would never happen.

is it confirmed transfer pax don’t count? Could they drive numbers that way?

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121737357#Comment_121737357

No new route is going to be 100% connections* nor would an increase in capacity on an existing route be 100% connections** either; so some headroom is required

We can assume there'll be a reduction in total passengers to LGW with EI gone; and whatever number to TLV might not just go via IST/AMS/etc instead (there will be traffic evaporation due to the situation over there anyway) but that doesn't give much to play with

*Well, Emerald DUB-ORK might be, probably the only way you wouldn't have protests would be if it was only sold as connections.

**I'm sure there's some Emerald route that has a huge % of connections that could be extended without adding too much to 'front door' passengers.

jwm121

Egypt Air Turkish Airlines today expanded their routes to Manchester and Ryanair announcing new ones in Manchester but also in other cities. Shanghai is being announced sometime this week with China Eastern to Manchester as well. Can't help but think that some of this could have been in Dublin if it wasn't for the cap. Getting so frustrating now, wish something could be done but we just have to play the waiting game...

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121736359#Comment_121736359

Imagine an airline agreeing to add new routes but then risk not flying at all during the busiest period of the year...

dublin12367

Ryanair had intended to base 4 extra aircraft, providing an extra 2m seats this year but can’t due to the cap. Whether or not they are stating this just to apply more pressure to get it removed or not, but 4 extra aircraft at dub wouldn’t have been surprising either. https://www.fm104.ie/news/fm104-news/ryanair-shelves-plans-for-2-million-extra-passengers-in-dublin/

gossamerfabric

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121695147#Comment_121695147

I was departing Treviso airport last week. I could see my plane in flight radar over the Alps. They started boarding at that stage and the passengers were basically held in a cattle crush for 30 minutes. I didn't present myself to board until the very last moment. Those paying for priority boarding had the worst experience as they would have been on their feet the longest.

Kermit.de.frog

The DAA should announce tomorrow they are closing the airport until further notice.

Within hours Eamon Ryan will be out and that cap will be gone.

Let's see Ciaran Cuffe and the rest of them come out then with their sh!te when constituents are banging down their doors.

We can not allow a fringe minority of lunatics hold the aviation industry in this country to ransom.

jwm121

Why were Hainan parking at the 100 gates last year? WetJet also parked there and SWISS, SAS and LH would sometimes park there too. I'm guessing it's because the 300 gates are full. Bit embarrassing though for long hauls to come in and have to be serviced by stairs and into a pier that is already filled to the brim. I have no idea how that pier has/is going to handle the amount of passenger this summer especially with 787 and A330 loads.

Van.Bosch

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753151#Comment_121753151

Not just the aviation industry, it’s impact on tourism and business in general is huge.

Qaanaaq

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121752934#Comment_121752934

Unfortunately this won't have much impact on the politics. They are not bothered about Ryanair extra flights. There needs to be a strategic route that has been lost to MAN to ramp up the pressure. Something like Singapore Airlines or EI moving long haul aircraft to Manchester

LimaRomeo990

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753151#Comment_121753151

Cant wait until the next election. This pack of clowns need out. Reminding me of the way the Aviation industry was treated during Covid.

EchoIndia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753151#Comment_121753151

And people accuse Eamon Ryan of being bonkers.

NH2013

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753151#Comment_121753151

I’m surprised they haven’t announced something along the lines of allowing as many flights as airlines want in summer and just closing down the airport for the last week or two of the year as the cap is hit.

Shutting down the airport over Christmas if it should hit the cap in the first or second week of December should serve to highlight how bonkers the idea of the cap is and allow necessary expansion in the summer.

”We’ve shut down the airport for the next two weeks to prevent excessive strain on the airport roads and public transport in line with our planing permission”

bikeman1

While that may have the "bomb" effect, the DAA is a semi-state and must operate in a considered and proper manner. They should plan the numbers throughout the year. Ultimately, the cap is restricting numbers, you just can't "see" it over the 366 days this year.

Coincidently, the reason for this stupid cap is to manage traffic flows into the airport, yet the approval or not of a carpark is taking months and months to be approved or decided on. If this carpark (former Quickpark) was allowed to reopen, it would stop the need for thousands of cars to go near the airport to drop off as there is such limiting options during those peak days that the cap is trying to achieve.

trellheim

Assuming the cap remains what is the mechanism for enforcing it or even verifying it , does DAA get to tell all the airlines we have 38 million spaces to fill this year, or is it reporting ?

Or do the airlines bid for the slots