Dublin airport new routes 2024

bikeman1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121370918#Comment_121370918

It is surprising that 4 airlines are still willing to battle it out. I think each of them brings something different to the table. Air Canada the higher paying traditional Canadian market. Air Transat good connections with other areas and a strong product. West Jet, slightly more low fare and Aer Lingus the Irish.

Huge amount of Irish living in Canada, concentrated in a much smaller area (Tornoto and Vancouver mainly), so you have family visits in both directions. Then Dublin is used by a huge number of Canadians heading to Europe for their holidays. I've come across loads in Europe the last number of years. Flying into Dublin gives you nearly every destination throughout Europe.

marno21

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121371029#Comment_121371029

Flying into Dublin also has the perk of not having to double back anywhere (unless it's Kerry or Donegal that is).

As was said, huge amount of Irish in Toronto and Vancouver especially, and it only being 1 flight from Dublin or 1 with a short connection, many of them travel home frequently for whatever reason and have people coming to visit all the time.

It's the same heading to Sydney/Melbourne/Perth in the other way.

jwm121

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121330138#Comment_121330138

Weren't Juneyao suppose to start services to Dublin in 2020? Nothing ever came of that or the talks that DAA were apparently in with Latam

Hainan were apparently wanting to up the Beijing service to 3 weekly for summer 24 but they don't even have it on sale

Cathay are operating 6 weekly at Manchester again next year and have opened some more routes so surprised that they have not come back here yet

I don't know how Dublin hasn't caught the attention of any big carriers in Asia like Air China, Japan Airlines, Eva Air, Thai, Korean, etc

HTCOne

DUB was on the cusp of gaining major Asian expansion prior to 2020 but global events intervened.

CPA were highly profitable on DUB-HKG until the pro democracy marches and resultant crackdown by the authorities happened. PAX numbers plummeted and then COVID happened. The Chinese Authorities used facial recognition technology to ban participating CPA staff members from flying through Chinese airspace.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/business-49317221.amp

Cathay were operating to Hong Kong, and Hainan were operating Beijing and Shenzen. Hainan itself was profitable but the parent HNA group hit the skids and the airline was bailed out by Central Government. Juneyao were due to launch Shanghai in 2020 until COVID hit.

Singapore are the best bet going forward for sustainable service IMO. The only issue is they are a premium heavy carrier, IE you need big spenders to use them.

jwm121

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121378382#Comment_121378382

If CPA were to come back for 2024 would they be able to make the same profits again? Surely if it was extremely profitable it would be something they would be looking at again.

With travel demand high I'm surprised more airlines haven't started new Asian routes to Dublin, shouldn't HNA group be back in profits now so Hainan can continue expanding more at Dublin? Shanghai was also apparently a very popular destination from Dublin so surprised Juneyao didn't come back to that.

Hotblack Desiato

According to Wikipedia Juneyao's long haul fleet is just six 787s (four more on order) so would Dublin really be that high up their priority list?

California Dreamer

Singapore or Cathay would make for some interesting competition with the Emirates/Qatar/Etihad lads for Australian connections.

moonshy2022

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121379392#Comment_121379392

It was meant to be an extension of their Helsinki route.

WishUWereHere

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121379827#Comment_121379827

I recently bought a return to CPT. None of the long haul European airlines could come near to both Emirates or Qatar for price. Based on that I’m not sure if Singapore or CP would be a viable alternative to down under.

jwm121

Hainan should bring back Shenzhen in 2024, CPA might return in 24/25 and more carriers are probably looking at Dublin.

jwm121

Dublin airport chief said recently that airlines have been turned away and that growth incentives have been removed, anyone know what airlines were turned away or suppose to increase capacity that have not done so?

Noxegon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121381629#Comment_121381629

Using EK/QR to get to CPT is several hours more in the air when compared against LHR/AMS/CDG.

Personally I'd rather avoid the detour via the Middle East and would pay a premium for that. I expect that's why the pricing is different.

N64

Let's not forget that due to the Russian Ukraine war, non Chinese airlines aren't able to operate over Russian airspace, which means that the likes of Korean, Cathay and so have to take longer routes, which may make some routes uneconomical to operate due to more fuel needed. London - Seoul used to take 9 hours where as now, it takes 14 hours, roughly.

Was some talk from the Irish and Japanese government regarding direct flights before COVID hit. https://twitter.com/IEAmbJapan/status/1185371524338835457

x567

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121415841#Comment_121415841

I made that choice recently and chose to avoid the €4k premium (BA over QR, in J). The timings were such that in Ireland to CPT terms it wasn't all that much longer; and QR are really pretty good, particularly relative to the inconsistent BA J hard product....

Noxegon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121418717#Comment_121418717

For a €4K difference that makes sense.

I just checked a random date window in February, in Economy class. QR was €965 and KLM was €998 – with a 3h35 difference in block time.

The QR product is better but even allowing for that I'd gladly pay €33 to spend three and a half hours less in an economy seat.

EchoIndia

Looks like Ethiopian is planning a return to DUB as a passenger destination from ADD.

https://simpleflying.com/ethiopian-airlines-european-expansion-plans-revealed/

dublin12367

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121425991#Comment_121425991

Wonder if it it will be a direct return route unlike the previous ADD-DUB-LAX. There was talk pre Covid of a ADD- MAN- DUB route wasn’t there?

EchoIndia

I'd expect it to be tagged on to another European or UK route. ET already do this on a number of European services IIRC.

briano1979

Will be nice to have Ethiopian Airlines back - flew with them to Addis Ababa a few years ago and they were pretty decent. Could their return potentially push Egyptair out? Does anyone know how the Cairo route is doing?

dublin12367

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121430806#Comment_121430806

Egypt air going back to 5 weekly (from 4 this summer) next summer so must be doing ok.

user060916

I thought I heard rumours of Air India starting up a DEL flight, is there any chance of this is the near term?

x567

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121430982#Comment_121430982

Wouldn’t surprise me at all in the medium term as from what I’ve seen there seems to be quite a bit of connecting traffic India to DUB via LHR. The new Tata-owned Air India is hugely ambitious and as we know has placed a mega plane order; however I doubt they have the airframes available to prioritise DUB just yet? In due course I think they’ll be a big player in the aviation market and we’ll definitely see them on our shores…

jwm121

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121425991#Comment_121425991

Once the DAA get this cap increased, any chance they'll incentivise ET to bring their transit flights back to Dublin?

Qaanaaq

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121431145#Comment_121431145

I doubt it. They operate on the night time period so they use up a lot of the night time movement cap allowances. each flight would both land and take off in that time frame, so a double count.

A regular transatlantic flight typically only clocks up one movement as the departure is during the daytime.

jwm121

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121433590#Comment_121433590

I think the night time movements noise quota might be part of the infrastructure application or should be put in as a different application around the same time so hopefully they will if they get that approved.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121434924#Comment_121434924

Its still eating quota for comparatively low income compared to getting passenger charges for terminal use.

Qaanaaq

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121434924#Comment_121434924

They may manage get the time period adjusted a bit, to an earlier cut-off in the morning, 6AM or 0630. but i think the night time quota will still remain. And each Ethiopian counted for two movements in that period.

HTCOne

I thought the quota was put on hold subject to a pending appeal?

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121439979#Comment_121439979

And in the interim, the direct number cap is in place.

jwm121

Any chance we will see any new routes/routes for Dublin for next year again? If I had to take a I guess probably no because of the cap but any possibilities?