Irish White Privilege......Yeah

DownByTheGarden · 26-08-2023 11:40PM

If you want to see privileged, have a look at what punishment all these people will get for this. None I bet. But if you or I attacked someones house like this they would lock us up and throw away the key. I doubt very much anything will happen to these guys.

https://www.reddit.com/r/waterford/comments/1619h6a/any_idea_where_in_dungarvan_this_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=3&utm_content=1

One eyed Jack · 26-08-2023 11:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121032017#Comment_121032017

No? Sure you’re hardly arguing that a DEIS school should be deprived of an astroturf pitch are you? Because that would be petty.

hymenelectra · 26-08-2023 11:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121032023#Comment_121032023

https://www.irishlegal.com/articles/irish-prisons-full-at-watershed-moment-for-penal-policy

“This is a watershed moment for Irish prisons. We now have a prison population that is growing at a worrying rate and without strong action from government the problems caused by this rapid rate of increase will continue.”

Replace the word "prison" with nearly any other crisis in the country, and bobs your uncle.

Everything is connected. Easily. The title of this thread, that thread, this problem, that problem. Commonality.

Sand · 27-08-2023 12:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121032065#Comment_121032065

In an era of infinite demand on services, we all have to pretend to be outraged that there isn't a perfectly scaling infinite supply to respond. Hence every crisis Ireland is currently facing being addressed as some random event which fell out of the sky. Rather than a perfectly predictable quagmire which people identified from the 1990s onwards, and even before then. Meanwhile the demand on services keeps on increasing.

The official solution as always is to somehow, someway, increase supply to match infinite demand.

Yellow_Fern · 27-08-2023 12:15AM

I see UCD is signing a anti-racism comment in September. Part of the document lists a commitment to race equality across students and staff. I don't know what this means. How do they propose they bench mark it? Whatever about students, but the idea that UCD staff should match the proportion of black people in Ireland is ludricious. You wont be finding many senior academics in many fields from the Irish black population. Sure you can find them from the global population but that would exactly be breaking these (imaginary) glass ceilings.

hymenelectra · 27-08-2023 12:42AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121032116#Comment_121032116

To describe it as a mugs game is too easy.

Everything is overcrowded, everything is suddenly lacking.

That's all we ever hear

Meanwhile, the totally, totally, swear to God, totally, dont-even-think-it concomitant gigantic increase in population is pure coincidence.

All is connected, from the insipid attempts to reconcile children to ignore reality through outlandish racist propaganda, right through to there nor being enough guards, everything is easily connected.

No lizard people here, just simple cause and effect.

gameoverdude · 27-08-2023 12:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121032058#Comment_121032058

Will you stop.

You know exactly what I was saying.

Funding is not an issue for deis schools. No issues here with extra dosh to give a leg up. Happy about it in fact...if it works.

Your posts are not as smart as you think they are. Bit of gaslighting thrown in for good measure. 👍

One eyed Jack · 27-08-2023 01:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121033268#Comment_121033268

I DO know exactly what you’re saying, it’s why I wasn’t accusing you of being petty, while I take your point that it looks like a cash grab. As you’re saying - it’s a DEIS school, happy for them to have the extra dosh to give them a leg up, because it benefits the children to be able to have opportunities they otherwise wouldn’t have if it weren’t for the school receiving the extra funding.

I don’t agree though that funding isn’t an issue for DEIS schools, they still have to organise fundraising events to cover the shortfall in public funding in order to cover their costs or if they wish to offer parents better education for their children that the parents couldn’t normally afford to provide themselves.

I wasn’t trying to be smart or trying to gaslight you.

gameoverdude · 27-08-2023 01:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121033404#Comment_121033404

Apologies so.

It has to come from home though. I know quite a few teachers there who are at their wits end. They care, but what can you do?

A great initiative is the TAP programme (trinity access programme). Seems to work very well.

1800_Ladladlad · 27-08-2023 05:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121029622#Comment_121029622

If there is "white privilege" then there has to be black privilege and Asian privilege and male privilege and female privilege and age privilege.....or essentially it's all used as a scapegoat by a particular group of a particular ideology for the various challenges we all face in life. But that's not what this is about. "White privilege" might or might not be appropriate to the United States - where (perceived) racial inequality is a major issue. But to strong arm a version of this political theory into Irish schools is for nothing more than a narrative.

hymenelectra · 27-08-2023 05:18PM

"We're specifically targeting this group of children based on ethnicity..."

Yeah, that's all you need to know.

1800_Ladladlad · 16-09-2023 05:34PM

Peadar Tóibín parliamentary question to Norma Foley

Foley evades the question as to why skin color white is dishonestly associated with the Americanized construct of "privilege". Such contempt! Irish people are not the 'privileged' beneficiaries of history.

donaghs · 16-09-2023 10:16PM

Even if it’s “good intentions”, you can see how promoting and encouraging people to think of themselves more so as an ethnic or tribal group within a country, rather than a common national identity can lead to troubles down the road.

especially when certain groups are identified as having “privilege”, basically having favoured status, needing some sort of remediation. leading to resentments on all sides, who will perceive discrimination against the identity they belong to (are have been assigned to).

Mr. teddywinkles · 17-09-2023 07:14PM

All I have to say is please fook off with your americanised horseshit. Anyone with half a brain cell can see through it as such

gameoverdude · 17-09-2023 07:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121123293#Comment_121123293

That's exactly what somebody with white Irish privilege would say.

batman_oh · 18-09-2023 12:34AM

It seems like we are just desperate to follow other countries down the toilet so I guess we might as well welcome it as it's being cheered on by our virtuous leaders.

silverharp · 27-09-2023 12:50PM

its hard to tell reality from parody in 2023

https://twitter.com/IrishInquiry/status/1706762158481285437

27-09-2023 01:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121163521#Comment_121163521

How sad and pathetic is that; a bunch of zombies talking to each other.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121124332#Comment_121124332

What baffles me is how anyone can look at how US culture war politics has impacted that country, and then come to the conclusion that this is the kind of divisiveness we should introduce here.

The only conclusion I can come to is that those promoting it actively want to cause that division for ulterior motives.

It must be absolutely resisted.

bloopy · 27-09-2023 01:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121163521#Comment_121163521

The bit at the end is like a responsorial psalm at a mass.

nullzero · 27-09-2023 02:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121163796#Comment_121163796

More like this...

nullzero · 27-09-2023 02:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121163521#Comment_121163521

The more honest reply would have been "white women look fvcking stupid with braids you gobsh1te".

Quantum Erasure · 29-09-2023 12:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121163521#Comment_121163521

that's ****in creepy

beastfromtheEast · 01-10-2023 09:40AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121011720#Comment_121011720

How often have innocent lone males being at the wrong end of an unprovoked assault?

All of what you describe above I agree is totally wrong but the world we live in is not a nice place and being a white male does not make it any better.

beastfromtheEast · 01-10-2023 10:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121013263#Comment_121013263

Totally agree.

beastfromtheEast · 01-10-2023 10:30AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015446#Comment_121015446

I hate racism and discrimination in every form but if you go to an African country as a white person let me know how that works out for you.

Anybody that stands out for any reason tends to get negative attention from SOME people.

When I was attending school all the teachers and students were white native Irish.

Back then people who were poor got bullied people who any kind of disability or disfigurement lived a nightmare.

I judge people as individuals based on THEIR behaviour and THEIR words.

I think people from the upperclass trying to lecture people from disadvantaged backgrounds about privilege is insulting.

purifol0 · 01-10-2023 11:14AM

I just saw the twitter thread. The woke Social Democrats have a councillor that is trying to hush up anyone who is understandably outraged by this. And the school in question has deleted its twitter and the twitter of the principal. No doubt due to "harassment" and not getting exposed.

When I was being taught religion in school in the early 00's, it was a doss subject that no one, even the teachers really believed in. Well now, this is the new religion and the parents and their children absolutely must believe it or else face ostracism from the state institutions they pay for.

Gentlemen, things are not going well for our democracy.

Galwayguy35 · 01-10-2023 01:28PM

Worries are small these days in school if someone gets all outraged over a white girl wearing braids.

Bog bodies have been fouund with braided hairstyles dating from the Iron Age so its not as if big bad whitey has been stealing any ideas from Africans.

We are raising a generation of kids who will be afraid to do anything in case someone gets offended.