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Should RTE stop airing Father Ted?

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    #422
    Annasopra
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018420#Comment_121018420

    There is no balance. This is trying to defend his indefensible unhinged behaviour and pretend his behaviour is reasonable. It's trying to make his hatemongering seem rational, reasonable and acceptable. We all know his behaviour is bullying and hateful abuse. That some people seek to downplay and defend that is not in any way balanced at all.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #423
    PaoloGotti
    Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭PaoloGotti


    Well his behaviour gets a pass for me because it is highlighting child abuse. There are many of us that agree with his intentions. No doubt he will make many more mistakes along his path.



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    #424
    Feisar
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018540#Comment_121018540

    He cannot get a free pass because he's all about the kids. Exactly how have his actions highlighted a wrongdoing that couldn't have been dealt with differently?

    First they came for the socialists...



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    #425
    Annasopra
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018540#Comment_121018540

    Exactly. You are defending the indefensible.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #426
    GerardKeating
    Registered Users Posts: 7,549 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120993692#Comment_120993692

    I think they "forgot" to mention he was in the act, when they booked the venue...



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    #427
    PaoloGotti
    Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭PaoloGotti


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018681#Comment_121018681

    Well I can speak from my personal experience: in work one day at the lunch table, during a discussion on Father Ted, a colleague brought up Linehan in the context of “see yer man that wrote it is gone nuts”. He went on to explain how he is “mad homophobic”. Oh right, says I. So curiously I did a bit of Googling and YouTubing and came to realise that Linehan is far from a nutty homophobe. He speaks a lot of sense, admittedly with a sharp manner at times.

    Before that, I had no idea about the trans ideology hoovering up children.



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    #428
    eightieschewbaccy
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018723#Comment_121018723

    And I'd say you've gone down a similar rabbit hole to him which isn't particularly grounded in reality.



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    #429
    PaoloGotti
    Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭PaoloGotti


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018704#Comment_121018704

    As are those that are pro children transitioning.



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    #430
    Annasopra
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018723#Comment_121018723

    Looks like you fell for all the nutty conspiracies too.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #431
    PaoloGotti
    Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭PaoloGotti


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018732#Comment_121018732

    The irony saying that my views aren’t grounded in reality when talking about children “feeling they are in the wrong body”



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    #432
    Annasopra
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018742#Comment_121018742

    When you are overtly defending Linehan of course people are going to question your judgement.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #433
    PaoloGotti
    Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭PaoloGotti


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018738#Comment_121018738

    If only you knew me…I’m the ultimate skeptic!

    Listen I’m not dying on this hill. I just despise hearsay such as “yer man Linehan is nuts” without anyone actually listening to him.



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    #434
    PaoloGotti
    Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭PaoloGotti


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018748#Comment_121018748

    You are right on that. Fully expect it. He is a taboo subject.



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    #435
    Annasopra
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018750#Comment_121018750

    🤣

    Well that's nonsense. Many people opposed to Linehan have listened to exactly what he is saying.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #436
    Annasopra
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018758#Comment_121018758

    He's just a bully obsessed with unleashing his bigoted hate everywhere.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #437
    PaoloGotti
    Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭PaoloGotti


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018762#Comment_121018762

    I guarantee you the majority of people couldn’t quote anything he has said. It’s all hearsay by definition.



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    #438
    Feisar
    Registered Users Posts: 6,614 ✭✭✭Feisar


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018723#Comment_121018723

    Again what has he actually done? As fair as I know kids cannot just transition willy-nilly? (Pun written unintentionally but worth a chuckle). I've read about kids being schooled on forums about what to say to medical professionals, something somewhere about trans women wanting to frolic about in a pool with kids. However there is no trans hive mind as far as I'm aware. There is no generic trans agenda. Bar acceptance which we all want. Sure there are those that shout the loudest/wackiest stuff that'll grab attention/outrage but most folks are just trying to get by. Yer dealt a hand of cards, all you can do is play them. Plus the whole LGBT+ outfit, there's money to be made so ya gotta have new fights to fight all the time. This applies to all NGO types though.

    First they came for the socialists...



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    #439
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,019 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018362#Comment_121018362

    Sure. Now you're in the realm of not having a big issue with throwing around the term paedo when you don't like something. Cheapening the term paedo, comparing something you oppose to paedo. It can't feel good to be making that argument, can it?

    But to be fair, that's what I wanted to see. The best bit of boards is watching someone make a stand, and then stick by it no matter how they have to compromise their integrity to do it.



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    #440
    Feisar
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018794#Comment_121018794

    To be fair reasoned debate is hard here. I've in the past had opinions, debated a bit and changed my mind. Next post is "backpedalling much" etc etc. No, I've taken the points raised, digested it and formed an opinion which aligns with the argument being made against my points.

    First they came for the socialists...



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    #441
    PaoloGotti
    Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭PaoloGotti


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018787#Comment_121018787

    I would point to what he has highlighted about the Tavistock clinic that is to be shut down. Patients growing exponentially, mostly girls (no surprise) Lots of autistic children. Experimental medication. Lots of psychologists leaving. Fast tracking kids to transition. Etc.



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    #442
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,019 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018815#Comment_121018815

    I'm sure you're a perfectly reasonable person.

    Now, you'll you address the first half of the post?

    "Sure. Now you're in the realm of not having a big issue with throwing around the term paedo when you don't like something. Cheapening the term paedo, comparing something you oppose to paedo. It can't feel good to be making that argument, can it?"



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    #443
    PaoloGotti
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018794#Comment_121018794

    I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt of not having read my previous posts. I’ll repeat:

    I absolutely see the links between abusing children’s sexual organs and sexuality to paedophilia. But I don’t agree with his classification of it being a “paedo movement”. I think the reason it is being pushed on children is because it validates the adults way of life. If children have widespread gender disphoria then it is evidence that it is more common naturally occurring and thus validates the ideology.



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    #444
    Feisar
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018829#Comment_121018829

    Sorry I latched on to the second part as the first wasn't directed at me. As I wasn't on that side of the debate. I was pointing out as to why people die on hills. Yea I have a horrible story about your first point re the cheapening of words I don't want to to share.

    I'm reasonable enough most of the time but can be a thick fucker to.

    First they came for the socialists...



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    #445
    Feisar
    Registered Users Posts: 6,614 ✭✭✭Feisar


    As to the OPs question, Fr Ted was/is social commentary through the medium of comedy and should be aired indefinitely.

    First they came for the socialists...



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    #446
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,019 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018838#Comment_121018838

    Yes, I read your post and I was commenting on it. So you don't have a big problem with GL misusing the term paedo. Doesn't it cheapen a term which would really only be used for a really, really serious crime? Does it feel good to not have a big problem with misusing the term paedo when you don't agree with people?



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    #447
    PaoloGotti
    Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭PaoloGotti


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018893#Comment_121018893

    Listen I am often guilty of facetious language. I agree it cheapens the term. I don’t feel good or bad about that. I actually haven’t used the phrase myself against someone I disagree with. I was commenting on GL’s use of it.



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    #448
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,156 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018817#Comment_121018817

    The numbers increasing directly relates to acceptance and recognition of it. You could equally claim that being gay increased exponentially but the reason is, it's not shunned any more.


    In relation to the autism angle, I fall on spectrum and guess what, the vast majority on the spectrum have put more thought into themselves than most people. So I'd say the vast majority who identify as a different gender have a pretty strong understanding of how they identify. There's a higher prevalence of autistic people that are gay, bi etc as well. It doesn't really say a whole lot beyond neurodivergent people are more likely to be LGBT in general.



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    #449
    Sephiroth_dude
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    Mod

    Thread has run its course, closed.



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