Should RTE stop airing Father Ted?

ancapailldorcha

The hate is the point. Here's a catalogue of evidence for Linehan being a creep.

https://twitter.com/AidanCTweets/status/1694227647507636559

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121016778#Comment_121016778

Ok. So he's throwing around the term paedo where it isn't merited. Why do you think he's doing that?

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015526#Comment_121015526

Deflect with the whataboutery? It wasn't me who decided to take the internet on a confabulation of your 40 decades in irish politics.

more intelligent or what ever, because all it really means is that they failed to inform the public

Ok so the public get it right so long as they've been informed correctly. Yet for the proposed legislation the government have failed to inform us the definition of "insulting" or "hatred" despite these words being pivotal to how the law will be enforced. 👍️

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121016772#Comment_121016772

I don't care whether other posters accept my claims or not. I was talking off the cuff from personal knowledge and experience.

I didn't think this would be a point of contention.

However I hope social historians, when they go to write to the history of this country, aren't just looking at baptismal rolls and census figures. They should talk to individual people. Now that life expectancy is increased we can get a good sense of the past just from interviewing the still-living.

But hey whatever, it isn't some big belief of mine - just an off the cuff observation like I said

PaoloGotti

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017002#Comment_121017002

Ive explained before: it’s analogous to the Just Stop Oil protestors annoying everybody. Nobody listens to the softly softly approach.

He is using hard hitting language to get it into peoples heads that what is happening is abuse of children.

Doctor Jimbob

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017123#Comment_121017123

What exactly did him signing up for a dating app as a lesbian do to highlight the abuse of children?

It's very obvious that his issue is with trans people in general.

BruteStock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017002#Comment_121017002

One of his tweets is in reference to trooning. Some weird anime stuff I'm not framilar with and don't really want to be.

Next is a reference to a kids book. Let's Talk About It.. The term pedo is merited in this instance. Do you think it would be ok to post screenshots of that book in this thread? I can send you the pics and you can post them to prove there is no merit to his claim.

why though , his wife and kids think he went too far why is protecting everyone else more important than them?

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017340#Comment_121017340

I've just looked the book up, it's a sex education book in comic form for ages 14-17.... I'm happy to attach an image from it cause it's pretty grand. It's available from Eason for anyone to purchase. It is somewhat telling that the QAnon types are the people who are coming out in defence of Linehan though.

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Description from Amazon: Covering relationships, friendships, gender, sexuality, anatomy, body image, safe sex, sexting, jealousy, rejection, sex education, and more, Let's Talk About It is the go-to handbook for every teen, and the first in graphic novel form.

So ya, the "paedo" claim for a critically acclaimed sex education book possibly reflects more on the person making the claim.

I do think the way Linehan went is very similar to people who went down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories during COVID-19. Basically destroyed his professional and personal relationships.

BruteStock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017621#Comment_121017621

Go ahead and embed, not attach, images that show how to use a butt plug. Easily available. But we both know that's not going to happen. Because thats no longer education, it's sexual kink. When these books go into school shelves, there are no age limits. Once they are on the shelves they are available to any kid of any age.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017661#Comment_121017661

Oh brute, yes that is education however uncomfortable it makes you feel. Teens are growing up in a world where the odds are, they will be exposed to pornography before they turn 18. So a book giving a broad education on safety etc is better than getting an education from far dodgier sources. I say this based on what teens got up to when I was a teenager about 15 years ago.

Anyway, back on topic. Linehan effectively behaves like the QAnon types at this stage.

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017621#Comment_121017621

Can I identify as a virgin if I've had lot's of sex? Seems like anything goes.

BruteStock

Ignore list updated.

Hotblack Desiato

When these books go into school shelves, there are no age limits. Once they are on the shelves they are available to any kid of any age.

Well that's rubbish. Primary schools aren't going to have that book. In libraries it'd be in the young adult section.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017719#Comment_121017719

Yep, it's marketed to an age appropriate group etc. The misrepresenting of these things is pretty wild.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017027#Comment_121017027

I suppose that's the nearest to admitting to being wrong we're going to see.

May also be worth noting that the first showing of Fr Ted was only nine years after the Catholic Church managed to get divorce defeated here. Their power may have been in decline but they were far from on their last legs - the spectacular collapse since the exposure of scandals started in the 1990s is entirely of their own making.

Even in 1995 when Fr Ted started, divorce only passed by a wafer-thin margin. Clearly a very large number of voters were still getting their instructions from the pulpit.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017749#Comment_121017749

No I'm not admitting to being wrong.

Now we're just around and around in circles. After this, I'm done.

Are you aware that people can be opposed to divorce and that being irreligious doesn't guarantee support for divorce?

And that even Catholics don't necessarily take orders like robots but can arrive at conclusions based on thinking?

That you think the result of a political referendum 'proves' what people's religious feelings are, as if 'Catholic' was just some political designation, this is exactly the kind of blithe reductionism I'm arguing against.

You are just making assumptions about large chunks of the population and then crunching out numbers.

Like I said, I hope social historians and other serious inquirers into the recent past resist this approach.

Now it was a pleasure discussing with you and have a good evening. Goodbye.

PaoloGotti

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017300#Comment_121017300

I believe he also is trying to highlight the danger to lesbians. Straight Men masquerading as women.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017930#Comment_121017930

Trans women are not straight men and are not "masquerading" - nah his whole life right now is about abusing trans people. Pretty much nothing else.

PaoloGotti

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017977#Comment_121017977

Some trans women are actually straight men. This is a fact. The only thing making them trans women is their claim that they are so. Literally no different than Linehan joining a lesbian forum.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018017#Comment_121018017

No. Its not a fact. Linehan is a cis man so that's irrelevant. Trans women are trans women. Your claiming they don't exist doesn't make it a "fact'.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017123#Comment_121017123

OK. So he doesnt think it's actually a paedo movement, he's just calling it a paedo movement to draw attention to it? Is that what you're saying?

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121017930#Comment_121017930

Ya, you're just being an apologist for hateful behaviour now.

Linehan has said absurd and hateful things like transwomen are nonces, that men who support transwomen are misogynists - his style is bully-like.

I agree with him that conflation of gender with sex is preposterous (woman and man are not genders) but it ain't what he says, it's the way that he says it.

PaoloGotti

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018119#Comment_121018119

If we can’t agree on basic logic I obviously can’t win. Yes trans women are trans women. They can also be men at the same time.

PS Linehan is a man. I don’t abide the term cis at all.

PaoloGotti

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018170#Comment_121018170

I do believe “paedo movement” is a wrong term. I don’t have a big an issue as some with him using the term though.

PaoloGotti

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018187#Comment_121018187

Like I said before, depends fundamentally on your definition of hateful behaviour. I’m trying to bring a balance to the definition. By some peoples standards I am absolutely a hateful person. By others (in real life) I am quite meek and gentle.

To add: I’ve actually listened to Linehan speaking, rather than take one liners from Twitter with facetious language. He is far from the evil scumbag people have made him out to be. It’s mostly hearsay.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018368#Comment_121018368

At what point can you claim balance on the issue when you're justifying him setting up fake dating profiles to mock trans people?

PaoloGotti

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121018420#Comment_121018420

I don’t agree he did it to mock trans people. He did it to show the absurdity of an ideology that expects us to believe every man who claims to be a trans woman.

PS I’m not saying I think it was a great idea by the way. I just don’t get the outrage.

nachouser

Seriously lads, the OP believes the earth is flat and moon landings never happened. Why the f*ck would you bother?