Rebel Moon - Netflix - Zack Snyder

Agent Coulson

I thought there was a thread started already and there probabaly is somewhere however we all know the search is terrible here.

Netflix starting to release more promo stuff now ahead of the Christmas release.

I have to say I am looking forward to seeing what he does here.

Behind the scenes promo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nc4TDtogcs&ab_channel=Netflix

Poster

pixelburp

As with any Zack Synder movie, we know it'll look good; and the great thing about Space Opera is you can go as wild and imaginative as you want (budget allowing). So I'm hoping that "Synder does Star Wars" amounts to if nothing else, decent entertainment.

JP Liz V1

"Snyder is looking to shake up the movie industry with Rebel Moon by not only cutting the movie into two parts, but introducing two versions for each part, one focused for all ages, and one for adults. He’s also making a “ridiculous scale” RPG video game based on Rebel Moon, with the hopes that this will become a major IP for Snyder and Netflix"

https://www.polygon.com/23761045/rebel-moon-zack-snyder-netflix-movie-sci-fi

I hope it will make money back if only on Netflix

pixelburp

 with the hopes that this will become a major IP for Snyder and Netflix"

Welp. There's the kiss of death; remember that the Army of the Dead film was also supposed to kickstart & open-up some suite of spin-offs and "universe" of content. Time and time again studios get caught looking like fools when they talk up Shared Universe before the first thing has even come out - just make a good movie, people. Then talk expansion.

FortuneChip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120733095#Comment_120733095

Are you saying you didn't see Army Of Dead Thieves or whatever? It's cannon!

You're completely right though. It's one thing after a movie releases to test the waters for interest in a sequel, while also playing it down "oh, we've got a few interesting ways we think things could go, but whatever happens" etc it's another to be be so far ahead of demand with these sort of plans.

It's clearly an in-thing to do though - there's endless chatter of spins-offs as soon as a movie is released now. Ana de Armas spin-off from Bond, Lemon & Tangerine prequel for Bullet Train, everything Star Wars, everything GoT, Donnie Yen for John Wick, endless...

I'm not Snyder-fanboy. I'll still find time to watch whatever this turns out to be.

Agent Coulson

Teaser trailer due to drop tomorrow,

It will be a two parter with both parts having being shot back to back.

(2023) Rebel Moon: Part One -A Child of Fire.

(2024) Rebel Moon: Part Two - The Scargiver

pixelburp

Somewhere in Netflix's executive suites: please please please be a hit.

Agent Coulson

Here's the teaser for the teaser.

https://twitter.com/NetflixTudum/status/1693654235790098441?s=20

AMKC

Any chance they might go a bit crazy and you release it in Cinemas where any decent film should be released?

If this is as good as it looks like it could be then please/ hopefully they will release it in the Cinema.

Agent Coulson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121013330#Comment_121013330

It's due for a limited cinema run.

Agent Coulson

It looks stunning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rHLOXbFZtI

pixelburp

Synder's films can never be accused of not having visceral and arresting trailers - it's the actual movie that too often is the banana skin. So by all accounts the trailer was as intriguiing as I'd thought it might be - though anyone expecting anything different beyond Synder's usual visual tics will be disappointed.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121013392#Comment_121013392

Good to hear. When is it due out here?

Agent Coulson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121014094#Comment_121014094

Released on Netflix December 22nd so I’d guess the cinema release will be a week earlier. Hopefully it gets a release here I’d love to see it on the big screen.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121014150#Comment_121014150

It definitely looks like an epic visual adventure for the big cinema screen

Looks like a mix of Game of Thrones, Star Wars, Dune and Lord of the Rings 😄

BruteStock

Another tech product form a tech company. Bland CGI slop. A film without authentic cinematography is not a proper film.

The Chronicles Of Riddick laced with computer effects and released in 2005 looked better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qeS6c4ezpU

speedboatchase

Looked like about seven different movies cobbled together in a fan trailer. No idea what Hopkins what talking about or the context of any given scene. Also, extremely on the nose 'Nazi' uniforms for one of the groups - I'm guessing they're the baddies? 😂

McFly85

Zack Snyders Dune: A New Hope by the looks of it.

Usually Snyder has a trailer that’s entertaining enough to make me want to check out the full thing, which is generally rubbish, but this doesnt even have that going for it.

This looks like bits of sci-fi Snyder likes cobbled together as an excuse for 2 films worth of CGI nonsense that takes itself entirely too seriously.

Slydice

If I saw that trailer without knowing it was a Zack Snyder, I'm pretty sure I'd have guess it was 🙂

I think it'll depend on the story really. He's got the look of a blockbuster film all figured out.

Brief_Lives

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015216#Comment_121015216

I was thinking the exact same thing about Hopkins. I have no idea what this movie is about. It looks amazing but theres a lot happening. Were both movies already filmed? maybe thats why the trailer is so long.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121015216#Comment_121015216

Nazis mixed with Warhammer 40k by the looks of it. Absolutely a mish-mash of universes and stories; like I said Synder cuts a good trailer.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121019597#Comment_121019597

As far as I can infer: Sofia Boutella is some secret princess living on a backwater planet, and I guess(?) it's discovered she's the inheritor of the throne taken during some war & is the rightful heir.

pixelburp

New trailer out

https://youtu.be/fhr3MzT6exg?si=5PTFkh-mylZS4gdk

Brief_Lives

Well, it was about time someone came out with an updated "Children of the Revolution"... I remember playing that in my garage 20 years ago... cracking song.

trailer looks utterly mental. I'm still interested.

expectationlost

Charlie Hunnam doing a northern Irish accent?

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121362191#Comment_121362191

I noticed that too, very weird. Definitely feels like he's doing something.

On a related note I had seen Synder admitted the attempted "Army of the Dead" shared universe was itself dead, an upcoming cartoon has been canned. Wonder if this will follow

BruteStock

Backrond environment looks fuzzy and lacks clarity. It looks like a computer game. Killzone 1 comes to mind.

Will this be released in the cinema? Looks like a good cinema film.

TheIrishGrover

That is.... all over the shop!

Costume design and slow motion do not a good movie make. Practically every single scene in that trailer could be replaced by something from another movie.

From Neil Patrick Harris' Nazi outfit in Starship Troopers to the Reaver chase at the start of Serenity to Boromir at Osgiliath. The obligatory "What do we do?" "We FIGHT". Snyder's typical muted colour palette and some REAL dodgy-looking digital backgrounds.. I have yet to be impressed by anything he made. The very epitome of Style over Substance.

FortuneChip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121368304#Comment_121368304

"Tell me Zack, what movies inspired you when producing Rebel Moon?"

"Yes"

I really want to like Zack Snyder. I know he has a style, I know he's capable of delivering great shots.

Dawn Of The Dead was a great debut. 300 is a guilty pleasure. Watchmen Extended Cut is solid.

But after that - he copy/pastes his stylistic choices onto on less suitable projects, and ramps up the reliance on them, and the issues with everything else become amplified.

pixelburp

That's it, he has style but I'm not convinced he actually understands anything beyond "does it look cool?". And plenty of directors do that nothing wrong with it - only they'll often have their films display a sense there's something going on between the ears at the same time. Watchman is a good example TBH 'cos while it was ostensibly faithful to the novel, the fetishisation of the heroes' and their violence was completely at odds with the themes of the actual comic itself. Synder simply filmed stuff that looked awesome but accidentally validated the very interrogation of superheroes' flirtation with fascism or psychosis the book was known for.

Twinned with a really weirdly aggressive fanbase online that often makes his work hard to discuss by Essayists, as they nearly always get dogpiled on óver any minor critique. It's odd and have seen it said by a few authors online: criticise Synder and you gonna get attacked.

Supercell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121368304#Comment_121368304

Funny I was thinking that it reminded me of Serenity too. not that that's a bad thing, looking forward to watching when it comes out.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121370732#Comment_121370732

Yeah, think Dawn of the Dead is his best all round movie, and I think he has James Gunn to thank for that for giving him a decent script to work with. He has an interesting visual style, but really needs to accept that he needs storytelling help to put that style on top of a worthwhile project.

Brief_Lives

Dawn of the Dead and the Zack Snyder version of Justice League, would be my favourites of his.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121368304#Comment_121368304

Wait, her name it Kora?

FFS, he's not even TRYING now:

(I know it's Korra but....)

pixelburp

In fairness @TheIrishGrover this film's derivative DNA was blatant the moment I saw the Space Nazis in their very obvious Space Nazi costumes. If the main bad guy's name isn't ... I dunno, Garth Raider, I'll be somewhat surprised.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121370764#Comment_121370764

I think he would thrive if he was simply worked in the area of visual style etc. Then have somebody else handle overall direction, story etc. Cause I'm pretty sure I'd enjoy a movie with his style overall provided he had limited overall control.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121395282#Comment_121395282

Synder's collaborators were themselves part of the "problem" but I see with this and his more recent films he has credits on the writing; so that in of itself is a bit of a warning bell, for me anyway. So I'm not sure who could guide him given he has worked where others built the scripts - it's just that they themselves have been pretty bad lol. Except dawn of the dead which was notable in having none other than James Gunn penning the script.

Oh and on my snark earlier about the bad guy, I should share in case it was missed, followed by the obligatory video for situations like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY

MisterAnarchy

First trailer looked promising, the second one looks like utter shite.

The White Wolf

Reviews are out and it's being absolutely murdered by critics. What a shame as I was really routing for Zack.

Having said that I'll judge for myself.9

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121499976#Comment_121499976

It's out at Christmas on Netflix so TBH I'd be shocked enough if it didn't do gangbusters for them. Assuming it's ok for the wee uns it might get a lot of looks over the holidays. Not surprised it's getting a critical kicking cos it has looked decidedly ... Zack Synder.

~Rebel~

Yeah, I'm sure everyone's gonna watch it - I definitely will - but he's just an awful writer, so it was always hard to see it working well. He's a 57 year old who writes like an over-enthusiastic 14 year old. I'll always support original sci-fi though, even if its a bit crap, so that hopefully the interest is perceived to be there when someone with a good script comes along.

The one bit of hope here is that there are 2 other half decent writers on board too - but with this being a project so close to his heart for decades, it's hard to imagine they'll be given any more freedom than polishing bad ideas.

pixelburp

Shots fired; David Ehrlich with the most scarhing review I've see so far

The result is (the first half of) a singularly torturous slog that tries — and fails, and fails, and fails again for 134 minutes of agonizing tedium that are only interrupted by the occasional jolt of sadness for the wasted talent of everyone involved — to distill an iota of creative value from pre-existing images that never seemed worthless until Snyder tried to make them unique. It’s the cinematic equivalent of an NFT.

Jaysus, that's a harsh thing to say about anything.

Man Vs ManUre

Rebel Moon vs Killers of the Flower Moon, who will win this lunar battle??

The White Wolf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121500547#Comment_121500547

From what I've seen they're all generally going for the jugular. I'll be very curious to see if it's bad as they say. In a year that's had its fair share of failures, I haven't seen vitriol like this for any of them.

Agent Coulson

If it’s that bad it will be well worth a drunken afternoon watch over Christmas.

~Rebel~

Oof, it's sounding like a bit of a similar deal to his awful Army of the Dead.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121500601#Comment_121500601

Synder is possibly the singular Known Quantity director ( with a noted visual aesthetic) outside of someone like Wes Anderson; so far the reviews sound like the trailer looked and what it looked like was a Zack Synder movie. As I've restarted my Netflix sub I'll probably check it out, if only out of idle curiosity, assuming the runtime isn't something insane.

Edit, ah. 134 minutes; that's actually quite reasonable.

The White Wolf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121500697#Comment_121500697

Army of the Dead did ok compared to this critically. This is more like Sucker Punch....which I actually liked in an odd way for the pure spectacle and world he created. Oscar Issac had a really good performance in it.

johnny_ultimate

Sounds like it was a mistake to cut the film in two, as well. Apparently this just covers the ‘getting the gang together’ stuff - that’s not exactly the sort of narrative drive that justifies forcing the audience to wait another month or two. There’s a reason Seven Samurai is one long movie rather than two shorter ones.

But between this and Army of the Dead, one of Snyder’s most infuriating recent characteristics is to repeatedly insist on trying to start franchises. Alas, his ideas are too rote and boring to manage that.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121501263#Comment_121501263

Well, looks like Synder is threatening promising a 3 hour director's cut of the first film; so I'm guessing overall it's a 6+ hour thing? I'd have thought given the freedom afforded to him by Netflix, this cut already was be the directors cut?

silverharp

this is a decent (spolier free) review , one of the themes is Snyder makes great visuals but isnt so hot on story telling and characters , Snyder would make the best music video director on the planet. Hell of a flaw to have in your director unless he was playing second fiddle to someone else?

https://youtu.be/38UdhIUrYqI?si=2EP-IRDdChfFwkMv