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Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion - Summer 2023

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  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭glightning


    There's a few stronger returns on radar including the Wexford coast one, plus Irish Sea, and north of Isle of Man




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    Going by models last night I should have had a thunderstorm by now maybe it will turn out to be nothing but even an electrical storm will do haha



  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭glightning


    Yep, ATD showing these too. Looks to be the only storm we have seen so far!



  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭glightning


    And another just now



  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭glightning


    Coming from these




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  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭glightning


    Gonna call it a night here. Nothing going to happen up north!



  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭glightning


    I think that might be the end of the Wicklow cells. They are rapidly falling apart



  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭AnFearCeart


    Well scattered showers around too with the chance of some heavy showers or thunderstorms feeding in from the east giving spot flooding in places. Warm and humid with temperatures not falling below 14 to 16 degrees Celsius

    Met Eireann's 22.30 update



  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭AnFearCeart


    Carlow showing a developing cell now. Another coming in with the boat to Rosslare and one in central southern Wexford and perhaps one over Mt Leinster...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭vickers209


    heavy rain has started falling large drops in wicklow town here no sparks yet


    Edit just seen flash and heard a distant rumble of thunder



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  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭glightning


    The good news is that overall the cloud area from the storms is dissipating fast, and moving NW faster than yesterday's one. Can seeing it readily weakening on the satellite images. Also, latest Arome is showing it moving through and greatly weakening by tomorrow morning (7am). Hopefully a better day tomorrow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,121 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Flash of lightning in distance Kildare



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Just heard a couple of distant rumbles in S. Dublin, a few cells incoming from the Irish Sea.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    Mad met eirrean or lightning maps not picking it up :(



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,121 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Couple more now



  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭AnFearCeart


    South Dublin ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Livelightning did in fairness, was in Leixlip supposedly although radar wouldn't back that up.





  • Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭esposito


    Heard a loud rumble of thunder in south Dublin. Must be coming from the Irish Sea



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I hope I see some in carrick tonight 🙏, met eirrean did say they would come in from the east



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,839 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Complete bust today in the forecasting department, parameters were very decent but nada. Must have a good look at the charts to see what went wrong, a great learning opportunity to see what prevented development. Some spectacle over in the UK today, just catching up now on the days developments.

    On to tomorrow.......


    Some gunshot from the close lightning strike below.






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  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭SnowyMuckish


    Wow that map of the Uk looks absolutely mental. If they could have just spared 10-20 rumbles for me I’d be happy!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Rougies


    That Costco Manchester one, that would be a let's GTFO for me with all the water weight on the roof.



  • Registered Users Posts: 946 ✭✭✭Silver-Tiger


    The force of the rain on the extension velux windows just set off the alarm. That's a first. Greenhills D12



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Looks like a fresh cell kicking off just north west of the airport



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭Dazler97




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    Quite the downpour.

    As for the rest of the action, seems afraid to cross the Liffey and say hello to the northside.




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,839 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    If we don't get thunderstorms tomorrow and severe at that in places I will eat my hat ! Great forecast from Dan in Convective weather, see below.

    ( My thoughts )Tomorrow is the day with the most potential for severe storms that I have seen for a long time. Could have very intense lightning and very heavy rain, 20 to 30 mm potentially falling in a short time in places, higher totals could easily be expected over the day. Convective weather's map a good indication of where might expect the most storm activity, still a small chance of a few storms overnight too.

    Very high CAPE readings , potentially up to 3000 j/Kg!, Dp's in the high teens, very high local rainfall totals, flooding quite possible, hail possible, strong downdraughts. Could easily be an Orange warning level for some counties and Yellow for a good few more. Should see storms kicking off early afternoon and powering up through the afternoon and probably peaking mid to late afternoon to early evening, and a few could be slow to peter out into the evening.






    Day 2 Convective Outlook

    VALID 06:00 UTC Tue 13 Jun 2023 - 05:59 UTC Wed 14 Jun 2023

    ISSUED 22:26 UTC Mon 12 Jun 2023

    ISSUED BY: Dan

    An upper high will be centred over NW Scotland on Tuesday, with heights slowly rising through the day. Around its southern flank, southeasterly flow aloft will advect the relatively high Theta-E airmass that has resided over Britain for the past few days westwards into Ireland. A subtle shortwave/area of PVA, partly enhanced by convection over England and Wales on Monday afternoon/evening, will slowly meander across the Irish Sea and Ireland on Tuesday morning, although largely drifting offshore to the Atlantic by early afternoon. This may provide the focus for showery outbreaks of rain over parts of the Irish Sea during the morning hours, this gradually decaying by late morning. Diurnal heating over Ireland is expected to yield an increasingly unstable environment, with near-surface temperatures of around 20C in southern Ireland to 22-23C closer to Ulster required to surpass low-level capping and generate deep convection. Given predicted TMax in the mid 20s Celsius and dewpoints around 17-19C, 1,400 - 1,700 J/kg MLCAPE should be available fairly widely (with SBCAPE potentially up to 3,000 J/kg) in an environment with weak effective shear (~10kts). 

    A shallow surface low is expected to develop through the day across southern and central Ireland, with a strengthening east/southeasterly flow on its northern flank over Ulster and northern Leinster creating a NW-SE zone of enhanced low-level convergence from Co Leitrim/Sligo to Co Westmeath. In addition, sea breeze convergence will develop along the length of the west coast, and all of these low-level boundaries (in tandem with the subtle shortwave close to the NW coast) will provide the focus for forced ascent and a scattering of thunderstorms to develop. Thunderstorms should grow in size and intensity as they drift northwestwards, especially across Connacht and western Ulster where they may form into clusters. Given the magnitude of instability, the strongest cells may be capable of producing isolated 2-3cm diameter hail, wind gusts of 40-50mph and, given PWAT in the mid 30s mm and potential for multiple storms to train over similar areas, the risk of local surface water flooding. A SVR was introduced for the risk of flooding and isolated large hail. Showers/storms will ease during the mid-late evening hours, although a few elevated showers may drift into the east coast of Ulster/Leinster overnight.


    Elsewhere, a few isolated to scattered thunderstorms will be possible in parts of northern and western Scotland, despite upper ridging in place, aided by sea breeze convergence and orographic uplift. Here there may also be a risk of some local surface water flooding. Depending on the trajectory, the dregs of some earlier storm activity over Ireland may eventually drift towards the Outer Hebrides on Tuesday night. Finally, a few isolated showers may develop in parts of south Wales, S/SW England and the West Midlands during Tuesday afternoon/early evening, but given very dry air through most of the troposphere, and a deep, well-mixed boundary layer, it is likely these will probably struggle to gain sufficient height to produce lightning.




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    Naas just had a torrential downpour with a few rumbles.



  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭AnFearCeart


    Few clouds towering up over county Kilkenny.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,839 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Exceptional charts. WRF temperature chart and rainfall accumulation chart shows the expected rapid fall in temperatures from the heavy rainfall with possible hail tomorrow evening.







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