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Cork library staff being abused and intimidated over LGBT+ books

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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,814 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    There's no evidence that withholding sex education from young people benefits them.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,814 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,919 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Life ain't always empty.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,275 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    Sounds like a troll account. A poor attempt tbh.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,226 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Finally, a common sense approach.

    Turns out refusing someone admission to an event because they represent a potential security risk is not a violation of their religious beliefs 🙄




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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,814 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Dead bloody right. She had obviously been harassing NWCI and its Staff and board and they were right to exclude her to protect their members. Glad the WRC took a common sense approach on this.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭donaghs


    No-one said there should be no sex education. The poster clearly was making a point about what types of sexual practices should or shouldn't be thought. You have an interesting habit of making one-liner responses which deliberately misinterpret the original poster!

    Juno Dawson's book has noted by many posters here as not being suitable for the 12-14 age group as a recommended sex education guide. One poster here earlier said they wish they'd had proper sex education to avoid going on web sites/app like Grindr too young, and making mistakes etc.

    So what does this book say about apps etc?

    There is a one-line caveat that the app itself has an age limit of 18, otherwise the advice seems to be to dive in.

    p.155: authors advice: "if you don't include a face pic, expect the first message anyone EVER sends to be "PIC"?

    p.155: Some good advice: "If you're THAT HORNY that you want to do a "sex meet", meet the "trick" in a public place for a drink first... this is much MUCH safer"..... "ALWAYS WEAR A CONDOM"

    p.157: interviewee1 "I have used Grindr - the advantages are that you can get what you want quickly. The downside is that its the same people repeatedly".

    p.157: interviewee2: "The benefits are obvious: quick, easy and uncomplicated sex. On the downside, you always find the same people online whenever you're at home."

    p.157: interviewee3: "If people want casual sex, then something like Grindr is a must."

    some downsides: interviewee4: "I know one guy who got gonorrhoea, chlamydia and syphilis from some guy he met on Grindr. All in one go, like a three-for-two special.’"

    p.169: author: "Basically, porn is fine and fun, but it is no way REAL."

    p.189 author: "it makes no difference how many sexual partners you have - but dont go picking on someone else's patch, mind!"


    The are of course selections, from a book which covers many topics. But still the question must calmly and politely be asked, "Do you think this book is suitable for the 12-14 age group?"



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,272 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    ^^ That's gross.

    That is not sex education, that is Judo Dawson teaching her lifestyle to kids.

    She's basically teaching gay subcluture as if one is behoved to be part of it.

    Whatever path one takes in life is fine but the path you take is part of one's own individuality. Life would be no fun if you read a book in advance about how to do life like a set of instructions.

    It's not so much the book isn't suitable for 12-14 years olds. It's suitable for nobody. Unless you want to be a Juno Dawson clone.



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