America executes trans inmate

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120081233#Comment_120081233

Would have thought that was a basic.

Cant be overly complicated to give an overdose of barbiturates though.

Dravokivich

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120081268#Comment_120081268

It is when you don't know how to do it. It's why so many have failed over the last number of years.

SuperBowserWorld

Ireland can't be compared to the USA.

The USA is a huge world power, nuclear power, innovator, space explorer, country ... It is diverse, has 66 times the population of Ireland, can't go crying to the UK or EU for direction or protection.

Edit ...

So, we've got a legal, law and enforcement system from the last century. It's going to need a radical overhaul to cater for the problems we currently have and the huge changes coming in the next decades.

Gael23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120081268#Comment_120081268

The only involvement of a medical professional is to insert the IV line.

any further involvement would be a huge breqch of medical ethics

Dravokivich

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120081432#Comment_120081432

They don't even have one to do that.

cgcsb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120080733#Comment_120080733

I'm not saying that the death penalty fixes anything. Just that's the context in which it exists. The USA may be the first world in terms of gdp alright but there are large geographical areas that are more similar to the developing world. And unlike most countries there is no cohesive national identity, culture or sense of community that covers the whole country, its a country made up of factions.

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120081463#Comment_120081463

Given my own experience of having blood tests by professionals over the years I'm not surprised somebody occasionally inserting a line might have difficulty.

Veins can be tricky to find, particularly in substance abusers I'd imagine.

Dravokivich

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120081547#Comment_120081547

One of the complaints about lethal injection is that it's done by people who don't know how to inject, along with them not knowing how to administer the drugs. The problem isn't just difficulty finding the veins, it's not uncommon for the muscle to be injected due to the person simply not knowing what they are doing.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120081268#Comment_120081268

Yet again, please read up on what has actually happened, rather than making guesses and assumptions about what you think should happen.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120081253#Comment_120081253

You can’t distinguish between any human when it comes to medical testing. Your suggestion that any human should be used as a medical test subject without their consent is absolutely vile, and worthy of the Mengle comparison. You’re in absolute Nazi territory.

Mam of 4

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120081120#Comment_120081120

While still a man , they stalked , harassed and eventually raped and murdered their ex girlfriend and disposed of her body in a river .

They began their transition in Prison. Amber McLaughlin according to google.

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120081204#Comment_120081204

Plenty of concentration camp inmates were "convicted" of something

Gusser09

As I've said the bleeding heart liberals need to stop trying to make the argument that the death penalty isn't a deterrent. It was never about being a deterrent. It was about punishment and removing dangerous people from society. I believe in the death penalty for the most heinous of crimes. It's a just tool.

We let murderers out of prison here. Some after as little as 15 years. No that to me is a lot more insane and archaic as the death penalty.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120080799#Comment_120080799

You'll have to show me where I said that, Joe.

Your claim that those who agree with the death penalty just have a macabre interest in someone being killed, without including any other context, is a load of disingenuous shyte (and insulting to the perpetrators' victims) and I merely refuted it.

I personally don't agree with the death penalty - I'd prefer life in prison, but please don't exclude the fact that people who support the death penalty support it because the sentenced are serial killers, sexual torturers and child abusers. Their crimes would haunt you. I mean, THEY'RE the macabre ones yet you didn't even mention them in your claim? Such dishonesty (which you followed up with even more dishonesty by claiming I said something which I didn't say whatsoever).

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120081130#Comment_120081130

If she was a baseball player I’m sure it would have said “baseball player executed “

THE_SHEEP

" What's trans got to do , got to do with it ? "

XsApollo

Not enough scum are given the death penalty.

every Max sentence in Ireland could do with adding 5years to the time and a lot more enforcement of it.

plenty of peadophiles and child sex offenders walking amongst us that could injected and they wouldn’t be a loss.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120080967#Comment_120080967

"We" think nothing of celebrating people who killed children with bombs? Fanatics aren't "we" in fairness. And the rest don't think nothing of it!

Vic_08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120080764#Comment_120080764

It always baffles me how much the bleeding heart handwringers emote on behalf of every scumbag criminal in sight yet don't blink an eye about the pain and misery inflicted on crime victims.

One-punch assaults are regularly life ruining events, just not for the perpetrators, but then they are the only ones who you give a flying fukk for.

Gael23

Wgat happens to their corpses after lethal injection?

joeguevara

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120082535#Comment_120082535

I don’t care about criminals and have no sympathy for them. But I don’t believe in torture or murder for any human being. End of,.

joeguevara

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120082314#Comment_120082314

I understand where you are coming from and find those crimes abhorrent and disgusting and if I was a family member of a victim I would no doubt feel that it was deserved but emotion has no place in the penal system.

deirdremf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058278673/america-executes-trans-inmate

I'm wondering about the title of this thread - why did you use the word "trans"? Is the fact of them being trans in any way relevant to the decision to imprison and execute them?

If not (and I guess it's not relevant) please do not try to besmirch trans people in this way.

AllForIt

After watching a documentary on UK TV on the abduction and murder of the child Sarah Payne which had extensive interviews with the family inc brothers of Sarah where they described how she was abducted while they were with her in a park and saw the killer drive off and wave at them as he drove off with Sarah I agree with the death penalty in certain cases such as that one. I'll never forget the pain etched on her brothers faces as they described what happened so much so I wish I never watched it.

AyeGer

Same with that scumbag Aaron Campbell in Scotland a few years ago. He would be a prime candidate for the death penalty. The world does not need people like him living and breathing.

Bobblehats

Th afterlife is a less difficult transition anyways just snap and one less person one more.. slug trail? In this life.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120083448#Comment_120083448

I agree. I just understand where the anger comes from.

Slightly Kwackers

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120080715#Comment_120080715

It's one way of ensuring that someone getting out on a plea of insanity is actually insane, if not before the repeal, they would certainly be after a few months of their new sentence.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120083507#Comment_120083507

Don't think they're doing that. It's a first, which is why it's being mentioned in reports. Why would it be besmirching trans people as a whole?

Larbre34

I can see the arguments on both sides for the death penalty.

But I certainly have a problem with cruel and unusual methods, drugs that may not work or linger, electrocution that may cause prolonged agony etc. Death by hanging, as we used to do it on this side of the Ocean, does not guarantee a swift demise either.

All executions should be the simplest, quickest and most effective way known. Five crack shots with five precision rifles, loaded randomly with four bullets and one blank round, fired at a small target over the offenders heart.

Ready, aim, fire, dead.