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  • 24-11-2022 1:12am
    Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭US3

    Anyone watch this new documentary yet it's about the vaccines I presume. Hopefully I get to watch it the weekend if it's worth it

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Sweet Talkin Romeo

    there's two of them in it OP

    for reasons unknown to me (and many others also), they seem to keep a 24hr vigil up in here

    rarely post here meself; like to read the threads tho,,

    haven't seen the doco :( 🙂🙂

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,850 ✭✭✭bigroad

    Where is it on.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭King Mob

    Yes. Because conspiracy movies like this are pretty samey in those ways.

    That's my opinion on why watching a documentary like that isn't worth it.

    I was wrong however in predicting that the movie would be more coy about the conspiracy theory they're suggesting and it seems they are directly stating that there is a global conspiracy to depopulate the world using the vaccine.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,850 ✭✭✭bigroad

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,468 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao

    Ive heard that about Twitter so many times from conspiracy theorists here. Strange coincidence.

    As for the mocumentary, it’ll be just like all the other ones by conspiracy theorists. Made up and actually mocking their beliefs.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,850 ✭✭✭bigroad

    Is there any Stats in this country for sudden death heart attack ect.

    If we could get a clearer picture with real numbers,maybe than we might have some evidence.

    I myself have heard about an increasing number of sudden deaths in the under 50s.

    No sure if it's just people talking more about others death or what.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 574 ✭✭✭foxsake

    the excess deaths in europe aren't being explained by the media/authorities , they'll get around to it in 5-10 years .

    so in the meantime people will fill the void with what they know. something caused this covid - the vaxx is the mostly likely option.

    2 years of bad living with lockdown probably didnt , maybe for kids cos they didn't build an immune system but not adults.

    So it is most likely the vaxx - young people dying cos of a jab to protect the over 80s.

    the youth shafted again

  • Registered Users Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭King Mob

    There isn't any evidence that links vaccines to a large amounts of deaths. Otherwise, conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers wouldn't be relying on anecdotal hearsay about handfuls of unverifiable cases.

    Everyone I know has had the vaccines and I don't know anyone who has dropped death from the vaccine or otherwise.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Xander10

    Is the film's title in all Caps or are you just screaming for attention?

  • Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭moonage

    The documentary featured a lot of embalmers who said they encountered things they had never seen pre-2021.

    Lots of the dead had long, white fibrous matter which caused blockages in arteries and veins. We see them in vials and see them being extracted from a dead body. If you're not a pureblood it would be a hard thing to watch.

    There was an embalmers' convention and one of the speakers showed photographs of the fibrous material and asked how many others has taken these from cadavers and of the 100 embalmers present almost all raised their hands.

    In most cases no autopsies were carried out, so it was the embalmers who saw what was actually happening inside bodies and put two and two together—the safe and effective vaxx had caused the material that causes blockages.

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,384 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe

    It's the usual

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,468 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao

    Wait until you realise that not all deaths are on Your mind will be blown. However, whatever it says on doesn’t take away from the fact that Died Suddenly is bullshit.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,384 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe

    "There is no evidence that Covid-19 vaccines are responsible for a rise in “unexplained” or “sudden” deaths. SADS deaths did not increase in England and Wales in 2021."

    "Kyle Sheldrick, a medical doctor and researcher, also debunked the video in a Twitter thread (here). Sheldrick explains how Dowd and the unidentified man who examined the data created their graph using CDC data (here), and points to the spread of the dangerous Delta variant as the more likely reason for spikes in deaths in the second half of 2021."

    As for the "documentary" in question, it's a propaganda video

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Cheerful S

    The fact that so many people took the vaccines and are still alive implies this is nonsense. Of course there will be some people who will have adverse reactions to anything new put into their bodies, but there is no evidence that Covid vaccines are killing large amounts of people.

    The claim should be that some people had adverse reactions to covid vaccines ( thats it) Conspiracy does not make any sense in this context.

    How effective were vaccines in fighting disease or did your own body do most of the work? Vaccine effectiveness remains an open question. 

  • Registered Users Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭King Mob

    Nope. Vaccine effectiveness is well studied and quantified.

    Your statement makes it seem like you don't actually understand how vaccines work.

  • Subscribers Posts: 39,832 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat

    How effective were vaccines in fighting disease or did your own body do most of the work?

    humm... someone doesnt understand how pandemics are caused or how vaccines work

  • Registered Users Posts: 19,808 ✭✭✭✭recode the site

    Unexplained deaths in Ireland are subject to autopsy. Same in UK and very many other places. A cause is nearly always determined. One scenario where cause is not always evident is when certain cardiac arrhythmias occur, as in Takotsubo Cardiomyopathy, but even now autopsy techniques are being developed to detect this. - serving exiled talent

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭silliussoddius

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey

    I have an open mind with regard to new information coming to light, as such I had both jabs, But in todays hyperpolarised media any discussion falls into one of two camps either Anti or Pro. Pretty much like many topics health related.

    I have seen a recent paper that has studied VAERS effects on 25 people that did indeed die quite soon <20 days after getting the MRNA vaccine and the cause is quite clear chiefly Myocarditis.

    The paper is pretty technical as is only fitting with regard to this kind of information but feel free to have a look yourself and most importantly keep an open mind.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,384 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe

    I don't see some "anti" vs "pro" divide in the news media. Are you sure you aren't referring to social media?

    VAERS is a passive reporting system. Anyone who gets adverse effects within a few weeks of a vaccine can file a report. As such, it's more for the experts to disseminate.

    It's the equivalent of having a public reporting system of anyone who experiences any adverse effects within 30 days of eating e.g. mackerel. You are going to get a very large number of false positives. The anti-mackerel crowd will point to it and exclaim "look how dangerous mackerel are!". All the while the real experts are the only ones who can interpret the data.

    For the report you linked, note the following line: "The reported incidence of (epi-)myocarditis after vaccination is low and the risks of hospitalization and death associated with COVID-19 are stated to be greater than the recorded risk associated with COVID-19 vaccination [29]."

    There's a significantly higher risk for myocarditis from Covid than from the vaccine

    In my experience, "keeping an open mind" is a phrase often used by those who want to get others to believe questionable stuff.

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