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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,520 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    This is a thread about a movie, in a conspiracy theory forum.

    Im not sure what point youre trying to make.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Ok. We all agree that the vaccines aren't a possible cause. Let's move on.

    So what other causes might be behind the excess deaths?

    Why are experts wrong when they suggest all of the other factors that you are discounting? Are they lying or do you just know better than they do?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yee try to make it into a 'vaccine' , thread despite the fact i didnt mention/blame 'vaccines' .........

    Yes, you did.

    You said earlier:

    Do you think the Irish times are going to attribute them to the 'vaccine' ?? No they wouldnt have the balls!

    This is you mentioning the vaccines.

    It is also you blaming the vaccines, though you are phrasing it in such a way that you can weasel out of it, when pressed.

    Because you can claim that you never actually blamed the vaccines, when you 100% are IMPLYING the vaccines are the cause of these deaths, you're pretending to not have offered up an opinion one way or the other, but we can all see through that charade.

    You've been asked repeatedly to explain what you think is the cause of these deaths, and refused.

    You've been asked if you think the Irish Times is complicit on this conspiracy by withholding information, and refused to answer that too.

    You claimed you'd answer everyone else's queries once your own had been answered. They were, and you've refused to answer a single question.

    This is the definition of a bad faith argument. You're only partially engaging, and should not be treated seriously as a result.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    Guy down the pub told me it’s the vaccine causing these deaths. So that’s it solved. This thread can be closed now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,113 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Provisional UK ONS data, shows slightly lower than expected excess deaths in England+Wales for 2022 as a whole when adjusted for population size and age structure.

    Deaths were 5-6 percent higher than previous averages ie raw unadjusted totals.

    These are provisional figures but if borne out suggests to me possibility of what is known as a 'harvesting' effect and the low deaths in first part of 2022 are balanced out by increases as year goes on.

    I dont see breakdown by age group eg for 0-24 but perhaps someone can drill in to see the adjusted rate.


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,495 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    There are many countries experiencing some increases in excess deaths (hilarious that anti vaxxers care about this when they didn't give a fiddlers when it was sky high across most of europe during covid waves though), and there are others that aren't. Such as Scandinavian countries. Given that these countries are highly vaccinated, same as the highly vaccinated countries like UK, but not experiencing high excess death rates like the UK, it doesn't take a genius to realise it is not the vaccines causing it.



  • Administrators Posts: 13,778 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    This is not a thread about vaccines. There have been multiple warning to keep vaccine discussion to the vaccine thread.

    Thread locked.



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