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Irish Under-20's 2023



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭ CIARAN_BOYLE

    What age is Andrew Osbourne. Still 19?

    When we say shocking defence do we mean poor positioning or poor tackle technique?

  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭ LRind2008

    A bit of both, sometimes just a real lack of being arsed to even bother attempt the tackle which ive seen on a few occasions, hes plenty of time to grow out of it but even at u20 six nations level it could be badly exposed.

    Heres some examples - 6 pretty poor defensive errors in only a 17 minute highlight video is pretty attrocious:

    5.14 Flat footed caught in no mans land

    11.05 (poor technique, zero fight back to chase back for the kick just disinterested in getting the missed tackle back), 

    11.36 slow back to his feet doesn’t bother fully chasing back and just gives up.

    11.25 very sluggish in adjusting , lazy gets back off the floor swell

    13.05 terrible attempt at the tackle, then turns around throws his hands up attempting to blame his team for his error

    14.24 again zero attempt to tackle anyone, left in no mans land and doesn’t appear to really give a ****, slowly jogs back disinterested 

    Not trying to slate him but just adding some actual footage instead of just throwing out unfounded claims

  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭ Munstermunch

    Any idea where that Muster V Irish 20’s match will be on or behind closed doors?

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭ Lost Ormond

    Most likely Musgrave and usually is open to public

    19s are playing Italy tomorrow week afaik

  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭ Munstermunch


    Ireland’s underage squads will gather at the IRFU’s High Performance Centre over the Christmas period between the 28-30th December for the second set of preparation camps to be held this season.

    The squads previously assembled in early November for camps with the Ireland U18 Clubs squad travelling to Rome winning impressively 43-10 against their Italian counterparts.

    Included in the Ireland U19 squad is Sean Edogbo, younger brother of academy player Edwin, while in the Ireland U18 Schools squad is St Munchin’s student Matt Te Pou son of the former Tongan international of the same name and younger brother of Munster Women’s player Aaliyah.

    The squads will have a number of pitch sessions across the three-day camp culminating in in-house matches between the various squads.

    In the spring of 2023, the squads will compete on the international stage with the U19s twice taking on their French counterparts, the Ireland U18s squad will compete in the U18s Six Nations Festival and the U18’s Clubs and Schools squad will play two international fixtures over the Easter break.

    Ireland U18 Clubs & Schools Squad

    Ambrose Bamber (Connacht/Sligo Grammar School/Sligo RFC)

    Cian Brady (Connacht/Coláiste an Eachréidh/Monivea RFC)

    Peter Burgess (Leinster/Tullow Community School/Tullow RFC)

    Fionn Casserly (Munster/Crescent College Comprehensive)

    Tom Coughlan (Munster/Presentation Brothers Cork)

    Billy Corrigan (Leinster/Presentation College Bray)

    Thomas Dougan (Ulster/Royal School Armagh)

    Andrew Doyle (Leinster/Ardscoil Na Trionoide/Athy RFC)

    Connor Fahy (Leinster/Good Counsel College/Wexford Wanderers RFC)

    Tomas Farthing (Connacht/Coláiste Chroí Mhuire Galway/Corinthians RFC)

    Harry Gleeson (Munster/Glenstal Abbey School)

    Charlie Griffin (IQ Rugby/Harrow School)

    Finian Murray (Connacht/Holy Rosary College/Monivea RFC)

    Luke Ingle (Leinster/St Fintan’s High School/Suttonians RFC)

    Todd Lawlor (Leinster/Newbridge College)

    Clark Logan (Ulster/Coleraine Grammar School)

    Tom McAllister (Ulster/Ballyclare High School)

    Harry McKeown (Ulster/Sullivan Upper School)

    Oisin Minogue (Munster/St Munchin’s College)

    Charlie Molony (Leinster/Blackrock College)

    Michael O’Donovan (Munster/Bantry Community College/Bantry Bay RFC)

    Arann Platt (Connacht/Sligo Grammar School/Sligo RFC)

    Sean Rohan (Connacht/CBS Roscommon/Buccaneers RFC)

    Jack Ryan (Munster/Rockwell College)

    Eoghan Smyth (Munster/Midleton College/Midleton RFC)

    Johnny Scott (Ulster/Dromore High School)

    Alex Usuanov (Leinster/Belvedere College SJ)

    Bryan Walsh (Connacht/Colaiste Einde Galway/Corinthians RFC)

    Adam Watchorn (Leinster/Kilkenny College)

    Ireland U18 Schools Squad

    David Armstrong (Ulster/Methodist College)

    Emmett Calvey (Munster/Ard Scoil Ris)

    Riain Coogan (Leinster/St Michael’s College)

    Andrew Cosgrave (Leinster/St Michael’s College)

    Paidi Farrell (Leinster/St. Mary’s Edenderry/Tullamore RFC)

    Mark Fitzgerald (Munster/Crescent College Comprehensive)

    Michael Foy (Munster/Christian Brothers College)

    Casper Gabriel (Leinster/Terenure College)

    Dylan Hicks (Munster/Bantry Community College/Bantry Bay RFC)

    Eanna McCarthy (Munster/Christian Brothers College)

    Ciaran Mangan (Leinster/Newbridge College)

    Evan Moynihan (Leinster/St Mary’s College)

    Alex Mullan (Leinster/Blackrock College)

    Tom Murtagh (Leinster/Clongowes Wood College)

    Luke Murphy (Munster/Ard Scoil Ris)

    Aaron O’Brien (Leinster/St Mary’s College)

    Jed O’Dwyer (Munster/ Crescent College Comprehensive)

    Gene O’Leary Kareem (Munster/Presentation Brothers Cork)

    Mahon Ronan (Leinster/St. Mary’s Diocesan Drogheda/Boyne RFC)

    Alan Spicer (Leinster/Belvedere College SJ)

    Tom Stewart (Leinster/St Michael’s College)

    Paddy Taylor (Leinster/Newbridge College)

    Matthew Te Pou (Munster/St. Munchin’s College)

    James White (Leinster/St Michael’s College)

    James Wyse (Leinster/Clongowes Wood College)

    Mikey Yarr (Leinster/Blackrock College)

    Ireland U19 Squad

    Theo Bishop (IQ Rugby/Hartpury College)

    Jacob Boyd (Ulster/RBAI)

    Tadhg Brophy (Leinster/Newbridge College)

    Oliver Coffey (Leinster/Blackrock College)

    Michael Colreavy (Leinster/Blackrock College)

    David Colbert (Leinster/Dublin University FC)

    Sean Condon (Munster/UCC)

    Wilhelm de Klerk (Leinster/St Michael’s College)

    Sean Edogbo (Munster/UCC RFC)

    Jules Fenelon (Leinster/St Michael’s College)

    Max Flynn (Connacht/Cistercian College Roscrea)

    Sean Fox (Connacht/Corinthians RFC)

    Jarlath Gleeson (IQ Rugby/London Irish)

    Ethan Graham (Ulster/Ballynahinch RFC)

    Sean Hopkins (Connacht/St Muredach’s College/Ballina RFC)

    Ben Howard (Leinster/St Michael’s College)

    Lucas Kenny (Uster/Campbell College)

    Tom Larke (Leinster/St. Columbas College/Old Wesley RFC)

    Mark Lee (Ulster/Rainey Old Boys RFC)

    Flynn Longstaff (Ulster/Campbell College)

    James McKillop (Ulster/Foyle College)

    Hugo McLaughlin (Leinster/Gonzaga College)

    Jack Murphy (Leinster/Presentation College Bray)

    Sean Naughton (Leinster/Kilkenny College)

    Luke O’Connor (Leinster/Lansdowne FC)

    Jake O’Riordan (Munster/St. Munchin’s College)

    Oisin Pepper (Munster/St. Munchin’s College)

    Stephen Smyth (Leinster/Kilkenny College)

    Zac Solomon (Ulster/Belfast Harlequins RFC)

    Andrew Sparrow (Leinster/St Mary’s College)

    Josh Stevens (Ulster/Methodist College)

    Finn Treacy (Leinster/Presentation College Bray)

    Henry Walker (IQ Rugby/Hartpury College)

    Bryn Ward (Ulster/RBAI)

    Paul Wilson (Leinster/Gonzaga College)

    Richard Whelan (Leinster/Cistercian College Roscrea)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭ Fresh to Death

    What position does the younger Matt Te Pou play?

    Exciting to see another Edogbo prospect coming along.

    Is Ciaran Mangan a brother of Diarmuid Mangan?

    I've seen quite a few of the U19s play and been impressed by Oliver Coffey, Wilhelm de Klerk & Hugo McLaughlin.

  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭ Munstermunch

    Surprised Brian Gleeson/Rockwell not involved in wider U19 squad he is still U19 right? Or Evan O Connell?

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭ Lost Ormond

    O Connells with 20s i think and yeah Brian Gleeson is still 19s. Lots of time for movement with these squads especially with the main youths competitions nd schools cups starting soon as well as AIL etc for those finished school. No internationals until March/April and there will be several camps before then

  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭ Munstermunch

    Has there been any U20 Camp's yet? If so anyone know of any of the Munster lads involved at this stage apart from O’Connell, maybe Gleeson would be considered in wider U20 squad?

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭ Lost Ormond

    Several camps but wont be any confirmation of people involved until the usual warm up games around christmas against provincial sides.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,291 ✭✭✭ snotboogie

    Is it a surprise that Ben O'Connor of Pres didn't make any of these squads?

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭ FrannoFan

    15. Rory Telfer (Ulster/Queen’s University Belfast RFC)

    14. James Nicholson (Leinster/UCD RFC)

    13. Hugh Cooney (Leinster/Clontarf FC)

    12. Sam Berman (Leinster/Dublin University FC)

    11. Ihechi Oji (Munster/UL Bohemians RFC)

    10. Matthew Lynch (Leinster/Dublin University FC)

    9. Jack Oliver (Munster/Shannon RFC)

    1. George Hadden (Leinster/Clontarf FC)

    2. Gus McCarthy (Leinster/UCD RFC)

    3. Fiachna Barrett (Connacht/Galway Corinthians RFC)

    4. Charlie Irvine (Ulster/Queen’s University Belfast RFC)

    5. Evan O’Connell (Munster/UL Bohemians RFC)

    6. Max Dunne (Leinster/Dublin University FC)

    7. Ruadhan Quinn (Munster/Old Crescent RFC)

    8. James McNabney (Ulster/Ballymena RFC)


    16. Danny Sheahan (Munster/UCC RFC)

    17. George Morris (Leinster/Lansdowne FC)

    18. Patrick McCarthy (Leinster/Dublin University FC)

    19. Joe Hopes (Ulster/Queens University Belfast RFC)

    20. Brian Gleeson (Munster/Garryowen RFC)

    21. Oscar Cawley (Leinster/Naas RFC)

    22. Sam Prendergast (Leinster/Lansdowne FC)

    23. Hugh Gavin (Connacht/Galwegians RFC)

    24. Henry McErlean (Leinster/Terenure College RFC)

    25. Conor O’Tighearnaigh (Leinster/UCD RFC)

    26. Diarmuid Mangan (Leinster/UCD RFC)

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,996 ✭✭✭ Dubinusa

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,291 ✭✭✭ snotboogie

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭ Lost Ormond

    Game is in Tarf tomorrow at 1.30 should see few more involved in the traditional xmas games against Munster and Leinster

  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭ Munstermunch

  • Registered Users Posts: 808 ✭✭✭ ulsteru20s

    They lost 47-50.

    very scant report. I saw somewhere elsewhere that Oji scored a try.

    Rolling subs so obviously a very practice match vibe.

    i just noticed that munster have 3 under 19 guys in this 23, which is impressive.

    Very interested in seeing this team play in 6 nations. Few guys like Barret and Lynch the out half that i cant remember seeing play before.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭ Lost Ormond

    inpho have photos up with some of the scorers there - Hugh Gavin, Henry McErlean, Rory Telfer, Ihecji, Gus McCarthy,

    Italian site i found had a scoring list and first half was score for score then Italians went 2 scores up ireland came back level went down by 10 again then got final score of game to end 50-47

  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭ Munstermunch

    Any idea when the traditional xmas games between Irish U20 V Munster and Leinster will take place?

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭ Lost Ormond

    30th against Munster and January 6th against Leinster. was mentioned ine article on irfu site listing team for italy game

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭ Lost Ormond

    Ireland U20s: 15. Henry McErlean (Leinster/Terenure), 14. Ike Anagu (IQ Rugby/La Rochelle), 13. Hugh Gavin (Connacht/Galwegians), 12. John Devine (Connacht/Corinthians), 11. Noah Sheridan (Leinster/Clontarf), 10. Harry West (Connacht/Buccaneers), 9. Jack Oliver (Munster/Garryowen), 1. Paddy McCarthy (Leinster/Dublin University), 2. Matt Victory (Leinster/Dublin University), 3. Fiachna Barrett (Connacht/Corinthians), 4. Conor O’Tighearnaigh (Leinster/UCD), 5. Evan O’Connell (Munster/Ul Bohemians), 6. Diarmuid Mangan (Leinster/UCD), 7. Ruadhan Quinn (Munster/Old Crescent), 8. James McNabney (Ulster/Ballymena)

    Replacements: 16. Gus McCarthy (Leinster/UCD), 17. George Hadden (Leinster/Clontarf), 18. Ronan Foxe (Leinster/Old Belvedere), 19. Joe Hopes (Ulster/QUB), 20. George Shaw (IQ Rugby/Cardiff Univ.), 21. Oscar Cawley (Leinster/Naas), 22. Sam Prendergast (Leinster/Lansdowne), 23. Rory Telfer (Ulster/QUB), 24. Charlie Irvine (Ulster/QUB), 25. Sam Berman (Leinster/Dublin University), 26. James Doyle (Leinster/Lansdowne)

    Munster Development: 15. Conor Phillips (Young Munster), 14. Josh Costello (Shannon), 13. Fionn Gibbons (Young Munster), 12. Liam McCarthy (Highfield), 11. Ihechi Oji (UL Bohemian), 10. Jeff Williams (UCD), 9. Ethan Coughlan (Shannon); 1. Kieran Ryan (Shannon), 2. Danny Sheahan (UCC), 3. Darragh McSweeney (Shannon), 4. Fearghail O’Donoghue (Cashel), 5. Eoin O’Connor (c) (Young Munster), 6. Jack Kelleher (Cork Constitution), 7. Jacob Sheahan (UCC), 8. Brian Gleeson (Garryowen).

    Replacements: Chris Moore (Young Munster), Mark Donnelly (Garryowen), Danny McCarthy (UCC), Oisin Toland (Old Crescent), Ronan O’Sullivan (Young Munster), Kyle Read (Midleton), Aaron Quirke (UCC), Cian O’Halloran (Shannon), Oli Morris (Garryowen), Shay McCarthy (Young Munster), Daniel Hurley (Cork Constitution), George Coomber (Cork Constitution).

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭ connachta

    4 Connacht boys + their future n°8 George Shaw

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭ theVersatile

    Interesting name in the Ireland #14 jersey, South African schoolboy. Seems to be a really balanced runner, but can't read very much into schools highlights (some of the ones in this very dramatically edited video look like they could be from their Junior Cup equivalent).

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,996 ✭✭✭ Dubinusa

    I don't know too many of these lads. Should whittle down the numbers.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭ Lost Ormond

    Unless you are watching/checking on youths rugby or schools then you wouldnt.

    It will also open up shots for players eligible for 20s playing for Munster who may not have been looked at by Ireland to date...

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭ CIARAN_BOYLE

    South African, Irish eligible and playing in La Rochelle and likely to qualify through residence if he stays.

    If he is good enough he will have his choice of nationalities.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭ Lost Ormond

    Half time 19-12 to Ireland

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭ Lost Ormond

    finished 40-26 to Ireland

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,996 ✭✭✭ Dubinusa

    Wow. Decent result.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭ Munstermunch

    is Academy Tony Butler injured? Thought he might line out with Munster A