Why are Dublin people from working class areas so confident?

pgj2015

I have yet to meet people from these areas who aren't confident and outgoing. shy isn't a word I would ever use to describe them. Nothing against them by the way, I admire them and find most of them good craic and good company.

lawrencesummers

fake it till you make it.

Damn upstarts. Some of these people didn’t even drop their heads and tug the forelock as I was driven through them. Where are the RIC and the DMP when you need them!

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058257599/why-are-dublin-people-from-working-class-areas-so-confident

It's to lull you into a false sense of security so that they can more easily rob your wallet and/or stab you to bits.

Allegedly

theteal

Speaking as I do for my higher post code brethren, we don't see/acknowledge class. . . .

Either way, what has that got to do with a person's confidence?

growleaves

That would an anthropological matter.

Apparently Southern culture in the US is in large part derived from British/Irish working-class culture. Look at the verbal style of Conor McGregor compared to characters on The Wire - witty, aggressive, verbose.

The same sort of thread like the "integrating unionists" thread and "deal breaker" thread.

Another dumpster fire 🔥 thread here on boards.

I've a dozen first connections on LinkedIn who are "working class" Dublin, and one sorted me out in early 2015 when I would have been screwed

I'll tag along for the shitshow.

Allinall

What's a working class area?

People in all areas work, therefore all areas are working class.

pgj2015

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No one said anything about them being bad, apart from someone making a joke maybe. don't be so sensitive.

pgj2015

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Maybe you could google working class?

Allinall

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I'm not skilled enough.

Citizen Six

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damn straight!

Jim2007

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Why would you think they should not be confident? They live in a very successful country economically, have education opportunities, job opportunities etc. I know there will be a queue of people happy to claim otherwise but they are not the confident ones in any case!

I lived in Dublin with my Swiss wife for nearly three years before we moved to Switzerland over thirty years ago and from our point of view the whole country has become more confident in their own abilities, they very have a can do attitude and a seriousness that was not there before. I would say it is very much a function of economic success - everyone is better dressed, have a stake in consumerism and feel they have a future.

That is not to say that everything is wonderful in Ireland, far from it, but in relation to my starting point in 1980s, it’s dramatically different and that is reflected in peoples attitude.

For me at this stage I’d say people are not overly confident, I’d say they are typical Europeans. I was in Dublin for a few days a while ago with an English business colleague who also knew Dublin in the 80s and the 90s and he was shocked by how it had changed, at one point commenting - it no longer feels British, just a European country, where they happen to speak English.

EmmetSpiceland

I, personally, have always found the louder, or more aggressive, types from the inner city, or the more “rougher” areas of Dublin to be incredibly dramatic.

If they are stood up to, or “confronted”, or getting spoken to by the Gardaí, they start screeching and flailing about and putting on a show.

Very strange thing to witness.

pgj2015

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119433537#Comment_119433537

its not that I dont think they should be confident, compared to other Dublin people, I never met a shy Dubliner from a working class area. I assumed its because they grew up in a dog eat dog area and had to be able to stand up for themselves and a place where if you are shy you will be walked over.

Hangdogroad

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Are you describing Mcgregor as witty?

Sardonicat

I think all Dubs are very upfront, open and straight talking and the people of the commuter towns of the neighbouring counties likewise. Is that what you mean by confident? Why wouldn't working class people from the area have the same attributes? They are very positive character traits to have and coming as I do from a part of the country where the norm is to speak out of both sides of the mouth at once, only say what you think the listener wants to hear and cut you to pieces behind your back, its a breath of fresh air. I much prefer forthrightness, even if I don't like what I'm hearing. If you want to experience blunt honesty, OP, go to Yorkshire. All of the truth but none of the charm and playfulness of their Irish counterparts.

walshb

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Aggressive confident I assume you mean?

bladespin

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It's one of those 'brit isms' that's found it's way into our dialogue over the years.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058257599/why-are-dublin-people-from-working-class-areas-so-confident

Sounds like you're describing how you feel about dogs.

Quitelife

No problem with people from working class areas been confident- it’s the welfare class areas where people who refuse to work are last going at the working and law abiding people .

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119433669#Comment_119433669

Well, there are Cat people too ?

walshb

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Don't be pretending you don't know what it means

"the social group consisting primarily of people who are employed in unskilled or semi-skilled manual or industrial work."

Larbre34

Simple, nothing to lose.

And I don't mean they actually have nothing, they just know nobody is going to take it off them.

BaywatchHQ

It is the same with Belfast people, they have a mono personality. They are all the same, loud mouth insufferable people. In the countryside they are nicknamed "McCooeys" and they have a bad reputation.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119434508#Comment_119434508

Oh Jesus , Dublin and Belfast people.

gmisk

When it comes to a lot of lads that I am thinking off they are chancers and wisecrackers (but not in a bad way).

I meet a lot of lads like that out walking my dog, no complaints all sound and friendly especially if you live in the vicinity.

Leg End Reject

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The horror!

😂

kowloon

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That would an anthropological matter.

Apparently Southern culture in the US is in large part derived from British/Irish working-class culture. Look at the verbal style of Conor McGregor compared to characters on The Wire - witty, aggressive, verbose.

The Wire, set in Baltimore?

bad2thebone

I can tell the difference in accents and attitudes from working class people from the likes of Limerick or Cork they're more , well more easily identified

If I hear a Dublin accent I wouldn't know a Dalkey accent from an inner city accent they all sound the same. I couldn't figure out at all at all where they're in Dublin

Like for example a Tougher accent and a Knocknaheeny accent in Cork are totally distinguishable. So is a South Hill accent and a Moyross accent in Limerick. You can tell what part of the city they're from.

Even a Clancy park accent in Ennis, or a Cloughleigh accent are easy to tell apart.

But Dubs all sound the same.

Sardonicat

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Witty and verbose.....'sheeeeèeeeeet"